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to think some retired people completely forget what it’s like to be working full time?

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cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:02

I know retirement is not always easy and older people can have health issues, caring responsibilities etc. But I do think some people genuinely forget what it is like to juggle work, commuting, childcare, housework and just basic life admin all at once.

My DM is retired and will often say how busy she is because she has shopping on Tuesday and a doctor’s appointment on Friday. That is apparently an exhausting week. She is in good health and active. Meanwhile most working people are fitting those things around 40+ hour working weeks.

My retired neighbour constantly comments on how awful another neighbour’s garden looks and how she should tidy it up. The neighbour she is talking about is a working mum with young children who leaves the house at 7am every day. My retired neighbour has a gardener.

Obviously NOT ALL retired people are like this at all. Some are incredibly understanding and helpful. But others seem to completely lose perspective on how relentless working life can be, especially with children.

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mamajong · 20/05/2026 11:57

I think the truth is that whatever your situation you struggle to remember or realise what life is like on the other side and can have a 'grass is greener' perception that the other person's life is easier.

When ex DH and I swapped roles and I worked full time was he was sahd this became immediately clearer. He recognised that my day hadnt been all playdates and coffees and I could appreciate that 'swanning off to the office' for grown up time wasnt always the bed of roses it had seemed.

My parents are always 'busy' but I am glad for them. I have to accept that they are older so a day out of the house is more tiring for them even if it is 'just' hospital appointments and lunches. Navigating an increasingly tech driven world of contactless parking, electronic check in, busier roads etc is harder for them than it is for me.

Yes I hear you. When my mum says 'you work too many hours' I wonder how she thinks i would pay my bills if I didnt, but its easier to be calmer when you remember that everyone is a product of their environment and it is easy to forget how the shoe fits on the other foot.

That said some people are judgemental knobs, at all life stages including but not limited to retirement, and thats just life

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:57

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:55

But you want your aunt to look after your mum?

Did I write that? No I didn't. You just made that up.

I don't want my aunt to look after my mum.

I want my mum to pay for a carer. She can afford to pay for one but refuses to do so, as she "doesnt want someone coming into the house"

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:55

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:51

I definitely won't be!

But you want your aunt to look after your mum?

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:55

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:49

So i guess you'll be looking after your siblings in old age?

I have one older brother and I won't be looking after him.

What upset me was my aunt didnt text me nicely and ask me if i could do something to help my mother.

My aunt texted me and said "you should be ashamed of yourself. Why are you not here looking after your mother".

Her message made me cry. I replied that i have to work.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 20/05/2026 11:54

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:48

You dont have time to watch a bit of tv in the evening?

most of us don't?
I can spend 5mn on MN while I am waiting for a phone call or when I print something. I haven't got 45mn to watch tv, I do need sleep at some point.

Evenings are for the gym, finishing a few bits from work and studying. Other people have kids that demand more attentions, have to meal prep etc.

Tshirtking · 20/05/2026 11:53

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:48

How am I judging pensioners? I didn't mention pensioners. I did mention what SOME retired people said to me.

Well because most retired people are pensioners. That's what the word pensioner means, you are retired therefore you collect your pension so you are a pensioner. Carnt belive I'm explaining this.

user1492757084 · 20/05/2026 11:53

Suggest that your elderly neighbour asks her gardener to include her neighbour's front yard along with her own for a few months.

Tell her it would be so kind and akin to winning Tattslotto for the young working Mum.

Everyone's health dictates their capacity for life. Everyone's best is different.

Mere1 · 20/05/2026 11:53

Tshirtking · 20/05/2026 11:15

I think you need to hold your judgement untill you retire. At the moment you have no idea what it feels like to age at that stage in life .

And, many retirees look after grandchildren for 8 hrs a day til the children attend school. And then limit their activities (fun and chores) to school hours to give pre and post school care. Often without payment. Most have worked full time for 40 years or more before this retirement.

Forestgreenblue · 20/05/2026 11:51

My mum NEVER worked!!! She stopped shortly after they got married to have my sister - this was back in the 1970s

She has literally NO IDEA of what it’s like working full time and doing everything in the house.

As a result I find it very difficult to speak to her - me saying I’ve got to go now I’ve got work to do means she replies with all the jobs she ‘has to get done’ - washing her hair, put a wash on etc etc - you know, all the things us working people manage daily to fit in with working full time!!!

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:51

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:49

So i guess you'll be looking after your siblings in old age?

I definitely won't be!

weegiemum · 20/05/2026 11:51

My parents are late70s early 80s. My dad will send a message to the family group chat at 8am and wonder why no one has replied at 4pm - because his children and several of his grandchildren have full time jobs and no time for WhatsApp! He phones me instead (I don’t work due to health issues).

Daybydayhour · 20/05/2026 11:51

Sartre · 20/05/2026 11:13

I know what you mean. It isn’t just retired people though, it can just be anyone without a FT job tbh. Our NDN are way too invested in what most of the street gets up to. They do work but it’s a dog walking business so they’re at home a lot and it gives them too much time to ruminate on absolute bullshit.

This.

My parents retired and house paid off and pensions taken early in 1990s of £60K between them. Ranting about how much they had to do and about how poor they were !!!
as they retired and bleating about how poor they were (!) they had two houses completely paid off and both retired at 50! One is 85 and one is 80. My mother worked from aged 30-50 and has spent over a decade longer retired than working.

When I was a single parent I always had to drive 300 miles to see them as they were busy ! Swapping library books mainly!!

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:50

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:49

No I don't. I have not watched TV for years.

So you dont have any free time in the day? How come other full time parents manage to make time fir themselves

merlotandcheese · 20/05/2026 11:49

Pressed the wrong one! I meant YANBU

RobinEllacotStrike · 20/05/2026 11:49

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:41

It is not pissing off younger folk. Do what you want but it is getting boring have to re-explain to SOME retired folk that I simply do not have the time to do the things they think I should be doing.

stop explaining if its winding you up. Your responses are entirely in your control OP.

Try "never explain, never complain" for a week and see how you feel

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:49

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:47

I got a nasty message from my aunt once for not taking care of something for my elderly mother.

I pointed out that I was working.

My aunt also is retired.

So i guess you'll be looking after your siblings in old age?

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:49

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:48

You dont have time to watch a bit of tv in the evening?

No I don't. I have not watched TV for years.

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DoloresDelEriba · 20/05/2026 11:49

BIossomtoes · 20/05/2026 11:42

Excuse me. I’m 72, it was perfectly normal for us to have had two working parents. Not only was I working full time when I was 60 but I was also running two houses and managing my parents’ care and finances and doing all their shopping. I know very well what it feels not to have enough hours in the day.

Couldn’t agree more. I worked my socks off from 18. Also had caring responsibilities from a young age. No washing machine and no car.
Not quite ‘shoe box in middle of the road’ but you get my drift.

And now I am retired and enjoying a much calmer pace of life.

Don’t make assumptions about me and my life and I will do the same for you.

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:48

Tshirtking · 20/05/2026 11:46

Exactly, which is why you shouldn't be judging pensioners because you have no idea

Where did I judge pensioners? I didn't mention pensioners.

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MrsShawnHatosy · 20/05/2026 11:48

I’m sure it’s the same for anyone whose life has changed in some way. When you have kids you forget what it was like no not have them, when they’ve grown up and left home you forget what it was like to have small children at home etc etc.

I’ve been retired 7 years but the novelty hasn’t worn off yet. I’m still absolutely thrilled not to have to get up at 7am to go to work.

Flamingojune · 20/05/2026 11:48

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:37

I got told to stop rushing around so much and watch TV by my retired auntie. She tells me about all the interesting things she watches and doesn't understand why I have not watched the series she regularly recommends.

Err because I don't have time to sit in front of the TV for 3 hours everyday with working and DC?

You dont have time to watch a bit of tv in the evening?

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:48

Tshirtking · 20/05/2026 11:44

And pensioners are fed up of you judging them.

How am I judging pensioners? I didn't mention pensioners. I did mention what SOME retired people said to me.

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Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 11:47

I got a nasty message from my aunt once for not taking care of something for my elderly mother.

I pointed out that I was working.

My aunt also is retired.

Chunkychips23 · 20/05/2026 11:46

TheWildZebra · 20/05/2026 11:42

For me it’s more reflected by when parents say “shall we just pop over for lunch on Tuesday and go for a dog walk” when I have a 30 minute lunch break and by no means time to walk their dog with them. I mean it’s endearing that they have lost total concept of the work week but I also just have to laugh because my parents were TOTAL workaholics with zero time for us as siblings.

that said, I’ve also noted, and give my parents a lot of slack for, their new, lower energy levels. A battle on the phone with the GP receptionist seems to knock them out for the morning, and they do maybe one activity in the afternoon. But that’s ok - it’s their new pace of life - I just can’t meet it right now!

That’s my MIL! My DH works from home on a Friday, so she thinks he’s not actually working and wants to come over and be hosted, then gets offended when he disappears for an hour for a Teams meeting. He’s fed up of explaining he’s still working, just not in the office.

Tshirtking · 20/05/2026 11:46

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:24

Nobody knows how anybody will feel at any stage of life. I have a retired friend who runs marathons and DM who will only walk for 10 minutes because she finds doing more boring (she is capable of walking more).

Exactly, which is why you shouldn't be judging pensioners because you have no idea