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AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my MIL's behaviour around food?

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illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 13:06

Sorry, this ended up being quite a long post.

I don’t know what advice I am looking for and simply wanted to share this with other people to see if anybody else has ever experienced anything like this?

MIL, who is past retirement age, has a not so healthy relationship with weight and food. There are reasons I say this which I won’t go into, but let’s just say it is off topic for this thread.

I put on weight recently, but my BMI is in the green, right in the middle. This comes after years of being underweight, at times dangerously so, and struggling to put weight on, for reasons that are also off topic here.

MIL is now constantly asking me how the weight loss is going, measuring me up with her eyes, essentially fat-checking me… she does try to be discrete about this but I’ve seen it happen. She will ask whether I have managed to lose any weight since the last time she saw me. She then confirms “but the weight is going down right?”

She herself is not underweight for her age but is on the thin side.

In her fridge and cupboard, she keeps lots of out of date, expired food. Often mouldy. She will tell anybody who listens how she doesn’t gain weight and how proud she is of it, then going into details about how she manages to do that. For example, if she has eaten a lot one day she will try to not to eat very much for several days thereafter.

Unless she eats out, she’d does not eat “real” food, instead snacking on things like tomatoes or biscuits or nuts, or if she decides to have a meal, it will be something like canned soup. My understanding is she doesn’t really know how to cook, but that isn’t something you can judge her for because not everybody does.

She will often go out of her way to make sure her son (my husband) gets food when we are there, but will essentially do the opposite with me. This used to happen even when I was very thin. If we would go out for a meal she would order something “healthy” then try to eat my food and actually verbalise that she won’t take any from her son’s plate because he needs it. She would encourage her son to get the most expensive and substantial option on a menu, and although it has never explicitly been said I always feel that I am supposed to pick something cheap, sometimes based on suggestions she makes but mostly it’s based on experience from eating out with her and the sort of obvious conclusion you can draw from the behaviour when I do get something that isn’t the very cheapest option (she tries to eat my food). Of course it is possible this is all in my head but I am fairly sure it is not.

I feel like there’s an aspect to this which comes from a need to hoard food because food costs money. Or making sure you get your money’s worth (since she paid for the meal). So her son eating is getting your moneys worth, me eating is not. This behaviour extends to other situations but again it’s a bit off topic.

She does offer me what is in her cupboard and fridge but as I say it’s all expired and mouldy. In the same breath she will talk about how to ensure you don’t get hungry by snacking on small amounts of food like sweets and nuts.

On our most recent visit she made her son some food (tinned soup). She did not offer me the same. She then told me to join her while she ran some errands, in what felt like an attempt to distract me from eating. At this point it was late afternoon and I had not had anything to eat all day. She later offered me tomatoes and crackers.

I don’t think I will ever try to “set a boundary” because to some degree it is a lost cause and I don’t want to make her cross, I mostly try to eat before and after seeing her, but sometimes there isn’t time to do that.

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Bryth · 03/06/2026 11:47

OP, I have read your posts. I do feel sorry for you. But as I have become older, I confess that I have become less tolerant of people being doormats and letting themselves be treated badly. This may well be a failing of mine. But I feel such intense frustration that you are in this dreadful relationship where your husband is happy to see you go hungry whilst he is fed like a prince.

I would get as far as way as I could from this family and start up a new life back in the states if I were you. I know it’s easier said than done, but goodness I couldn’t tolerate this disrespectful and humiliating treatment for a day, never mind a lifetime.

Respect yourself and tell yourself you deserve better. Because you really do.

CraftyYankee · 03/06/2026 11:44

Have you found a therapist yet for yourself?

Really you need to work on why you are letting DH and MIL have their way for an easy life while you are unhappy and ignored in the process.

illtellyouwhat · 03/06/2026 11:39

@Sunisgettinganewhaton
“I suggest you make dh a meal with mouldy foods..”

“And for the gatherings may I suggest a huge Peppa Pig lunchbag”

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ll do the second suggestion, but the first one is too revolting.

Originally she told us (so we would agree to it, I suppose) that the wedding celebration would take place at a fancy venue (somewhere that has a kitchen and serves food and drinks).

About a week later she said it will be in her home, with catering “because it will involve less travel”.

And now this has been watered down to her organising the food herself, less the caterers, to “save money” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have also been thinking about: when asking for her advice, to do the opposite. I’ll get people saying why ask for her advice at all?! The answer is I think it might be necessary to let her have an outlet for her bizarre fixations.
So not to piss her of per se. I will then pretend I thought that is what she said I should do.

I realize this is a very risky and provocative approach so I will use it sparingly but I figured it might come in handy.

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Sunisgettinganewhaton · 03/06/2026 11:23

And for the gatherings may I suggest a huge Peppa Pig lunchbag with your favourite things in it. Enough for 1 as dh will be eating the swill she provides..

Sunisgettinganewhaton · 03/06/2026 11:22

I suggest you make dh a meal with mouldy foods.. I bet you my last Rolo he won't eat it and won't understand why the hell you have presented him with it. Ask him if his dm had plated that up would he eat it without question...

illtellyouwhat · 03/06/2026 10:58

BuckChuckets · 03/06/2026 10:33

You really don't have to go. You obviously haven't got anywhere with getting your wet wipe of a husband to understand how toxic she is.

Major risk here of total outing but whatever😬

One event is her organising a much delayed celebration of our wedding because it didn’t happen on her home turf (official reason is organising an event for all those who were unable to attend our US wedding). Feel like I can’t get out of that one since we’re the centrepieces / primary pawns(?) for that event.

Second event is a family gathering that she made all her children + spouses agree to attend under pretext of some kind of important announcement. Theoretically easier to get out of this one, but I have tried this once before and what happens then is she ends up creating plans/forcing issues and upending the peace in my/DH relationship one way or the other.

The reason for this is he is unable to work out what I want so he goes along with what she wants or finds some unholy middle ground (spoiler: it’s not really a middle ground). I find this to be probably the most frustrating part of all this which is after over a decade together he still struggles when he’s put on the spot to take common sense approaches to these situations based on all previous incidents and wishes that I have overtly expressed in this format: I do not want to do [thing]. I fully don’t understand how if something is expressed that clearly to you, you can go into a situation and be unsure.

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alexdgr8 · 03/06/2026 10:40

Do not be alone with her.

BuckChuckets · 03/06/2026 10:33

illtellyouwhat · 03/06/2026 09:29

Thank you for this advice.

We had to go to hers. Can’t say the reason as it would be outing but will also need to go to hers two more times before the end of the summer. I appreciate telling DH go without me but unfortunately it won’t be possible on these occasions.

Worth mentioning that I agree that it’s insane for me to have to basically escape my own house if she wants to visit just to avoid these interactions and have said so to DH. Like… that is where I live and it should be a safe space not somewhere I have to escape from.

You really don't have to go. You obviously haven't got anywhere with getting your wet wipe of a husband to understand how toxic she is.

illtellyouwhat · 03/06/2026 09:29

AnnaMagnani · 03/06/2026 08:54

OP how does she end up in your home? Or you going to hers?

If you invite her, fade the invites out. Get her to arrange everything with your DP. Do not pick up any wifework of arranging meet ups, buying birthday gifts and cards, nothing.

Thank you for this advice.

We had to go to hers. Can’t say the reason as it would be outing but will also need to go to hers two more times before the end of the summer. I appreciate telling DH go without me but unfortunately it won’t be possible on these occasions.

Worth mentioning that I agree that it’s insane for me to have to basically escape my own house if she wants to visit just to avoid these interactions and have said so to DH. Like… that is where I live and it should be a safe space not somewhere I have to escape from.

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illtellyouwhat · 03/06/2026 09:14

TheSandgroper · 03/06/2026 00:54

Your reaction to her feeds her addiction. You tried to grey rock, she didn’t get the hit she wanted (so it worked - well done) so she escalated her behaviour. And then she got her reaction . That’s ok. It’s all a battle of will. She’s an expert at her behaviour and you are a learner at grey rock.

You will grey rock, she will work harder and harder at getting a reaction like a two year olds tantrum but you will get better with time. The word I used to think of with a young dc was inexorable. “I will be inexorable”.

I found this article https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/grey-rock#alternatives. Keep reading this as support for you. What you are doing is not easy.

Another thing that might help is to make out a bingo card of her behaviour, cross off the things she does as she does them and find a reward for yourself when you get it completed. Sometimes, you’ve just got to laugh at the things you need to do to survive something.

Thank you for this comment and the support. I will read the article, and the bingo card suggestion does sound like a really really fun way to deal with a shit situation! 💙

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AnnaMagnani · 03/06/2026 08:54

OP how does she end up in your home? Or you going to hers?

If you invite her, fade the invites out. Get her to arrange everything with your DP. Do not pick up any wifework of arranging meet ups, buying birthday gifts and cards, nothing.

TheSandgroper · 03/06/2026 00:54

Your reaction to her feeds her addiction. You tried to grey rock, she didn’t get the hit she wanted (so it worked - well done) so she escalated her behaviour. And then she got her reaction . That’s ok. It’s all a battle of will. She’s an expert at her behaviour and you are a learner at grey rock.

You will grey rock, she will work harder and harder at getting a reaction like a two year olds tantrum but you will get better with time. The word I used to think of with a young dc was inexorable. “I will be inexorable”.

I found this article https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/grey-rock#alternatives. Keep reading this as support for you. What you are doing is not easy.

Another thing that might help is to make out a bingo card of her behaviour, cross off the things she does as she does them and find a reward for yourself when you get it completed. Sometimes, you’ve just got to laugh at the things you need to do to survive something.

Grey rock method: What it is and how to use it effectively

The grey rock method involves becoming unresponsive to abusive or manipulative behavior so that the perpetrator will lose interest.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/grey-rock#alternatives.

BoxOfCats · 02/06/2026 21:29

I would stop having her round at your house altogether. Meet her somewhere else. Much easier to walk away or make a quick exit if you have to!

illtellyouwhat · 02/06/2026 21:28

BoxOfCats · 02/06/2026 21:19

She cannot make you do anything. So if she wanted you to follow her, you need to let go of your desire not to appear rude. Just say “I’m not going to follow you.” And go do something else.
You need to find ways to limit your exposure to her full stop.

I know and I was trying to keep that in mind but I was so focused on trying to grey rock it was taking up all my brain power, so I just followed in a daze. Did make sure to eat prior to going there though so that’s something!

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BoxOfCats · 02/06/2026 21:19

She cannot make you do anything. So if she wanted you to follow her, you need to let go of your desire not to appear rude. Just say “I’m not going to follow you.” And go do something else.
You need to find ways to limit your exposure to her full stop.

illtellyouwhat · 02/06/2026 21:15

Can somebody tell me how long it takes to get good at grey rocking?

Tried it out last week. I seemed like she was on to me throughout the entire interaction. She was doing something similar to the tailoring incident - attempting to generate feelings of stress and anxiety, but with a smile.

When I didn’t respond in the expected way (attempted grey rocking) she looked like she had some sort of light bulb moment, suddenly dropped what she was doing, did a 180 twirl and made me follow her elsewhere in the house (“come with me” and when I didn’t follow fast enough: “are you coming then?!”).

She then said some stuff that basically festered for days. It wasn’t anything mean or horrible (and not about food this time but she made other comments about food later on). It did however feel like there was a desired outcome: certainly a desired emotional outcome, possibly also in terms actions to be taken by me. Not going to go into details for outing reasons.

Bad news/good news is while I have not managed to sort out going home, my fam will come visit us here. Thank you all for pushing me to do this.

But yeah, if I could get some help with grey rocking that would be awesome!

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FloofyKat · 29/05/2026 21:47

Goodness. What a thread!

OP, you have been given lots of sound, sensible advice from other posters so I will try not to repeat this..

I will say that it’s clear to me that you ALL have issues that ideally need dealing with.

You have no control over whether your MiL does anything about her own behaviour and you can’t force your H, either, but you can definitely take steps to address your own.

You seem very stuck to the need to please others , the need not to be ‘rude’ (as you put it), the need to try and keep your H’s relationship with his mum , the need to be liked by aunt so-and-so, and so on.You have assigned yourself a very low priority in the pecking order ie bottom of the heap.

I think if you had improved self esteem and a clearer sense that it’s ok to say no, to call out unacceptable behaviour, to challenge comments about weight and so on you could at least begin to adjust the unhealthy dynamic that seems to exist between the three of you.

At the very least, therapy might give you the permission and strength to step away from the unhealthy situations you frequently seem to find yourself in.

For example, you could simply say to your H … I’m not going to MiL’s today with you. She doesn’t listen to me, care about me feelings or show me respect and you won’t stick up for me - so I’m not going to put myself in the spotlight. I’m disappointed that you refuse to see what’s going on here and I’m disappointed that you can’t ever put me and my feelings first.

Your H really needs to receive therapy himself if he’s going to break the cycle. He’s enmeshed fight now and cannot see the chains that are binding him. Maybe you changing your behaviour and the way you react will help shine a light on things he’s learned to believe are normal, but really, really aren’t.

i wish you all the luck in the world as you try and navigate all this!

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 29/05/2026 08:25

illtellyouwhat · 29/05/2026 00:32

I have some thoughts about some of the comments and questions you’ve put to me, but before I respond to those (tomorrow) I wanted to share something I’ve been thinking about in relation to how DH is blind to some of these behaviours.

Before our wedding, I needed to have my dress altered. MIL arranged for us (me) to take my wedding dress to a tailor “she knew” (looking back on it, I think she picked them because they were cheap…).

She had said to DH (I was not present for this conversation, but she did repeat it to me after we had been to the tailors) that she was concerned for me that my own mother was far away and that I don’t have friends that could go with me to an alterations appointment (this is not even true, lots of my female friends offered to help) and that she wanted to step up and fill that role (accompany me to the tailor, as if she were my mother/friend).

So we get there, I put on the dress, I glance over at her and I can see that she is clearly having to perform a role. I won’t go as far as say it was fake but clearly she was struggling to be genuine in her reaction.

The tailor measures up the dress from the ground, says okay this is how much we need to take off of the length, and then gets a pair of scissors. MIL then starts going OH HOW NERVE WRACKING SHES GOING TO CUT DIRECTLY INTO THE DRESS!! MUST BE SO NERVE WRACKING/TERRIFYING something to that effect. She kept saying CUT THE DRESS over and over, using different sentences.

I was having some kind of out of body experience while at the same time feeling very grounded about the fact that I completely trusted the tailor. I was not nervous at all. A tailor cuts into fabric all day long. Literally not a single part of me was stressed or nervous about this part, which I found kind of strange, but also very calming. And I thought there was such a contrast between what was happening inside me (calm) and what I kept hearing in the room which was MIL going on and on about the cutting like a broken record or a sports commentator, about how ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING it must be and OH SHES CUTTING IT!!

Looking back on this now I find it absolutely baffling how a grown woman could think that was the right thing to do? Like maybe she just didn’t know what to say but equally, she could have just staid nothing.

I think that from DHs perspective, this would translate to trying to be motherly and friendly and being caring and supportive.

Edited

On one hand I think it's admirable of you to be spending so much effort in trying to understand your DHs thought processes. On the other hand, it's very frustrating to read how much work you're doing on this, because you shouldn't have to. Your life shouldn't be this complicated and you deserve better. It's going to take years, maybe a decade for your DH to address his issues sufficiently for you and him to lead a "normal" life

I can have a good guess why your MIL reacted as she did at your dress fitting. It was your dress fitting. You were the bride. You were the special one on that day, not her. But your MIL needs to be in control. She needs to be the centre of attention. So she found away to make it all about herself and droned on about cutting your dress a very bizzare way. She created a performance about her pretend anxiety around cutting your dress, probably hoping that she could spoil the occasion for you by creating a real anxiety that didn't previously exist for you. At the very least it took attention away from how beautiful you looked in your dress; anticipation of your DHs reaction; anticipation of your wedding day etc and put the attention on her at how distressed she was.

From your DH perspective... You wonder if he would see all of this as her being loving, caring, maternal... Short answer yes. If you complained about this behaviour to him, he would defend his mother and say that you had misunderstood her intentions. You would be in the wrong. But that's because his mother is the most powerful person in his life. Everything she says is true. Nothing is questioned. She is right in all things. Your DH is at the stage that young children are at when they are at primary school - their parents are the all knowing gods in their worlds. It doesn't seem like he's ever made it to those teenage years where we start seeing our parents as fallible humans, where we realise we can have different opinions, and where we realise that they are occasionally wrong. The teenage years come with massive rebellion. They're painful years. There's lots of anger. Your DH wasn't allowed that, and he didn't push for it. He didn't take it. Perhaps it wasn't emotionally safe for him to do that. That's what therapy will help him with. In normal development, once you get past the painful rebellious teen years, as an adult, we can disagree with our parents in a calmer, respectful and robust way because we see ourselves as fully separate from them. He is absolutely light years away from that. He is developmentally and emotionally stunted by his mother's parenting.

I can see that you want to understand and I can see that you want to help him because you love him. Understanding is fine. But you can't actually help him with this. It's not your job. You're not trained. And you are far too close to the situation for him to be able hear what you say. He needs to develop a trusting, maternal (in the transference) relationship with a therapist who he sees as external to all of this.

alexdgr8 · 29/05/2026 05:37

OP you seem to under react to things.
Or else are too innocent.
It seems obvious to me that MIL was carrying on like that at the tailors as a deliberate ploy to undermine you.
You are always making excuses for people.
As if she didn't know what to say.
Whereas the opposite is the case as she kept on repeating the horror of the scissors as you did not respond as expected.
That you cannot see this even now after all the mounting evidence of the coercive control and toxicity is concerning.
You are not protecting yourself by making allowances for other people and endlessly trying to explain their behaviour.
It's a form of denial and will do you no good.
Imo of course.
Please wake up.
Go see your lovely sane straightforward parents.
And re set your boundaries.
All the best.

CraftyYankee · 29/05/2026 01:17

Why are you willing to put up with this ridiculous dance among you, DH and MIL?

She gets to be controlling and he gets to throw you under the bus for an easy life. What are YOU getting out of the equation?

You may love him, and he may say he loves you. But it's an awfully weak, passive kind of love that never prioritizes you or defends you against his mother, who seems to be his primary relationship. Is that really all you think you're worth, that you have to look forward to for the rest of your life? For your children to witness?

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 01:06

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 17:10

Apologies, what I meant was that there are objective reasons that I say - as a fact - that that her relationship with food/weight is unhealthy. Not just my opinion.

But given the response to this thread and the situation I described after adding in that disclaimer, it seems most people agree that even without these undisclosed reasons it's clear her relationship with these things is unhealthy...

Am quite stressed about the prospect of having kids and having to leave them with their grandparents given these and other issues around food. And I know it will be expected of me that I will agree to do that so that we can go out to dinner/holiday and so on. Not sure how to navigate that at all

This is not something you navigate. Parents must keep their kids safe. Next time he picks something off his food, you say you know we can’t let our kids be looked after by your mum, they don’t know they can’t eat moldy food and we can’t ever leave them here without us.

illtellyouwhat · 29/05/2026 01:04

Ghht · 29/05/2026 00:40

Sooo…your DH just eats the soup he’s been given in front of you while you have nothing? And he does nothing to rectify that?

yea sort of… he was technically in another room so like… “out of sight out of mind”

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99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 01:03

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 16:32

What exactly is it we should try to work out? Whether she can give them food? Or what do you mean?

You need to protect your children from her judgy attitude so they don’t develop at best unhealthy relationships with food, at worst actual eating disorders, especially if they are girls. I think you should work very hard on getting your dh to back you up and feed you, because you should also tell him your kids are not going to be in the same room as her at mealtimes unless he’s mastered that skill. Your mil to your dd at lunch : here’s a handful of peanuts, that’s a lot of food. What your dh has to say: mum that’s not lunch. Dd is a healthy girl and needs energy to grow and learn, kids need good food regularly, we will take her out for lunch and be back in an hour.

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 00:53

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 15:41

There are a couple of comments about this. First of all, sometimes he does seem a bit clueless. I think he reverts to a sort of child state around her, which a lot of people do when they are with their parents, me included.

We have been together for quite a long time. I've tried to talk to him about setting boundaries with his mother. I don't think he knows how to do that - with her or with anyone else. It also makes him feel stuck in the middle, which he expresses to me. So whether I have to appease her quirks or tell him to set boundaries, and then try to explain how boundaries are set or what a boundary even is, it's still me doing the leg (and brain) work.

It comes down to: how do you teach a grown man to set boundaries, with his mother no less, without creating friction in their relationship?

I’d say dh I’m done with your mum starving me, we can’t fix her batshit attitude to food but you can stand up for your wife. I expect you from now on to take responsibility for me having the same amount of equivalent food as you when with her. You take what she makes you, say wait mum there’s only one bowl, put half of it on a different plate and hand it to me. If your mum tries to drag me off to run errands instead you say she can go after she’s eaten. If you don’t do these things I am going to leave, walk out the door and uber home. I’m not seeing her anymore if you can’t stand up for me.

Ghht · 29/05/2026 00:40

Sooo…your DH just eats the soup he’s been given in front of you while you have nothing? And he does nothing to rectify that?

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