To think some older women having tax payers funded ivf are hypocrites?

It’s outrageous to compare me saying a lot of graduates are struggling to find work and some regret even going to university (which you can find tons of Reddit threads about) and saying a lot of people have abortions because they think their 20s is too young (another thing that you can see people talking about on mumsnet) to you trying to tell me barely anyone judges teen mums.
Because if you don’t believe me you can probably find millions of stories from teen mums saying how loads of people judged them.

I’m talking about actual things that happen and you are trying to tell me that something I personally know happens dosent happen. There’s a difference there

Except There are statistics proving graduate unemployment is rising and it’s been in the news a lot, AI is taking a lot of jobs that people spent years studying for. This is a fact.
But congratulations on your snarky comment, very clever

Yeah sure after you’ve read up some experiences of how teen mums are judged instead of just assuming it doesn't happen because no one in your philosophical discussion group has debated it yet

Yeah sure after you’ve read up some experiences of how teen mums are judged instead of just assuming it doesn't happen because no one in your philosophical discussion group has debated it yet

Yeah you can go and read stories about how teen mums have been judged online like how I’ve found tons of threads about unemployed graduates. I guarantee you’ll find a lot more saying they were treated like shit then saying they weren’t (exceptions being 18/19 year olds who look older maybe)

It’s outrageous to compare me saying a lot of graduates are struggling to find work and some regret even going to university (which you can find tons of Reddit threads about) and saying a lot of people have abortions because they think their 20s is too young (another thing that you can see people talking about on mumsnet) to you trying to tell me barely anyone judges teen mums.
Because if you don’t believe me you can probably find millions of stories from teen mums saying how loads of people judged them.

I’m talking about actual things that happen and you are trying to tell me that something I personally know happens dosent happen. There’s a difference there

How old are you? I was talking about recent graduates who are really struggling to find even minimum wage work. There are loads of threads on Reddit about this if you want to look them up and hear it straight from the horses mouth.

I only brought this up because it’s socially acceptable to not have a job in your late teens because you’re studying at university funded by a government loan that you don’t have to pay back. But it’s a disgrace to have a child.

The age of first time parenthood has crept later and later. 24/25 waa very average in the 70s and 80s. I had my children in the 00s.

@Neurodiversitydoctor also what relevance is it that you were a few years late “physiologically” when most 28 year olds get pregnant no problem and without incident . Should they all have them at 24 instead if they are in circumstances where they don’t own a house or aren’t in a stable relationship because of the slight physiological difference ?

What age do you think I am ? And what’s your point

How old are you if you don't mind me asking ?

What a strange attitude. Most of my friends had kids by 24/25. I was the odd one out having my first at 32. Whereas say for example most of my sisters friends had their first babies in their mid 30s. I guess it’s so different depending on your circle cos we are in the same socio economic group and went to the same school and all. I don’t know why anyone would be aghast at a 27 year old homeowner having a child though, it’s not even that young , mothers of that age are 2 a penny

So I had DS at 28 pregnant at 27 I was a homeowning professional although neither DH or I had yet finished our professional training or were married. My decision to continue the pregnancy was met with bewilderment and in a couple of cases derision by our friends, collegues and his mother. I would concur that most were absolutely not considering parenthood at that time. My view is this is a societal attitude that needs challenging as actually physiologically I was a couple of years late.

It’s not about nice older women who have ivf just the ones who judge teen mums and call them a waste of tax money and then go and have multiple nhs ivf cycles. Just seems hypocritical to me

• Aged 20–24:
• ∼30%to 35% of conceptions end in abortion.
• Aged 25–29:
• ∼20%to 25% of conceptions end in abortion.

Cant say for sure the reasons why each and every one of those were done but you are lying if you claim there aren’t a hell of a lot of people who think their 20s are not for kids

Because you have no personal experience with being a teen mum hence it’s silly you coming on here and saying you don’t know anyone who dislikes teen mums and acting like it’s not that common or a big deal. Another poster who was also pregnant at 15 mentioned how horrible her teacher was to her. Did you miss that comment?