To think some older women having tax payers funded ivf are hypocrites?

Nobody is disputing that teen Mum's aren't judged, they are and have been for decades. I am sure that when OP got knocked up at 15 she was on the receiving end of judgement I have no doubt about that.

All that most people are disputing is that teen Mum's are unlikely to be judged at a higher rate by women having IVF than any other group of people.

Plus there is zero evidence to support OP's claim.

Does anyone have multiple IVF cycles on the NHS? I've only ever seen people have one NHS cycle if they meet the criteria.

Cross posted with another poster who has said it's two trusts that offer this.

The NHS spends more on its postage bill annually (£100 million) than it does on ivf (£77 million).

IVF spending is 0.1% of the total NHS budget and is dropping every year.
like 2 trusts in the country offer the NICE guidelines of 3 full funded rounds. Most people having IVF self fund one or more cycles

its a drop in the ocean of ‘tax payers money’ so kindly choose something else to waste your thoughts on

I think people are more likely to look down on the parents of kids who get pregnant under the age of 16, than blame the poor girl who ended up in that situation.

It isn’t especially heathy for a teen to have a baby, and of course it’s not just about NhS costs - a young single mum with an unplanned pregnancy is more likely to be on substantial benefits than an older woman who has had more chance to establish her independent finances.

You might have experienced “hate” therefore because people sometimes equate being a young mum with being a benefits leech. It is quite hard to get those young mums’ education and job training back on track so they can fulfil their economic potential.

I do think underneath your rather heated posts, there might be a good point lurking! That women are delaying childbearing for primarily economic reasons, and this perhaps isn’t a good thing for our economy since it often limits size of family (unless you’re happy to pop out kids with a short age gap) and does lead to more complicated pregnancies and births, which in turn cost more money.

I agree, but only on the principle that younger Mums shouldn't be shamed. There's risk factors in being young, less money etc and risk factors in being older, complicated birth/more disabilities. It just shows that, working, older people can fail to look at the wider picture and be a bit stupid.

OP you are just showing your ignorance here into how IVF on the NHS works. The requirements and hoops you have to jump through, the long waiting lists and the postcode lottery nature. Not to mention the fact there is a cut off age.

So no it's not a case of women leaving it too late and suddenly deciding these women have been through years of infertility, testing and heartbreak.

Give your head a wobble and get that chip off your shoulder.

I give up
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Believing that teen pregnancy is wrong on so many levels is not exactly the same as "hating" teen mums, is it.

A teen being by definition anywhere between 13 and 19, the issues are not universal either.

This.

Sounds as if you had a tough time being a child and having your own child, which seems as if it has left you with a complex around being a teenage mother.

But, your thinking lines are skewed completely, as is your knowledge of facts.

I would work on your critical thinking skills and the anger you have surrounding your own past.

Personally I don't think that IVF should be funded by the NHS. No-one has the 'right' to have a child in my opinion.

But I'm sure that many people will disagree loudly and emotionally.

You mean THE hypocrite just this "woman" that treated you badly not i general.

I’ve never thought of it that way. But I can see your point.

As I thought, you're angry over nothing really when it comes to IVF.
Take no notice of those who judged you, honestly, they're nothing. Live your best life and f**k the rest.

Can you give me the figures on thenIVF "booming industry "
And if it's a "booming industry " that's not the NHS is it
Thats private healthcare

Hello Daily Mail 👋

Well, if I wanted to be unpleasant, I’d counter that at least those people will be adults should they become parents via IVF. I don’t for a moment think anyone should be nasty to teenagers who have children, or that they should not be supported in every possible way to build the best possible life for themselves and their children, but having a child as a result of an unplanned pregnancy when you’re nowhere near adulthood just isn’t a good idea.

You are talking about negative evidence, you made the claim not me.

I know several people who have undergone IVF in their mid to late 30s and it's absolutely not because "they left child bearing too late". It's because they tried and tried naturally for years and couldn't conceive a child.

Not one of them has ever complained that teen mum's are wasting tax payers money.

It sounds like you have a distorted view because of your own experience of some people. This is not, however, a "thing".

Criticism I have seen relates to fathers who don't get involved or contribute financially towards their child or people ( male and female) who deliberately choose to have a child when they have only been with someone 5 minutes especially when they keep on doing this.

It's a long time since I have heard someone criticise a teen mum who is getting on with it and doing the best she can.

It’s quite blatantly on this thread, so OP has a point.

Who cares what costs the 'taxpayer' on the NHS? The NHS is the biggest rip off organisation going and they're happy to fund IVF and many other things to send the data to Palantir. Look it up.

I'm personally tired of people acting like every treatment they ever have via the NHS is some sort of holy grail they should all be so thankful for as if we don't all pay for it, get subpar treatment (medically and by way of courtesy, looking at you NHS receptionists) and should just bow down to this shady institution!

People need to mind their own business about whatever treatment cost the taxpayer 'xyz'.

I don't get any treatment and still pay!

You know there’s an age limit on IVF and most areas only offer 1 round? Maybe 2? What a weird thing to get angry about.