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“You’re not going on your own” - caring or controlling? AIBU?

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Samuelthespaniel · 19/05/2026 09:36

My husband and I had words over the possibility of a solo trip (it was just an idea) yesterday and I think he may be the unreasonable party but I thought I’d ask in case I am genuinely missing something important here.

For context, married 4 years, no kids. Basically I brought up the idea of a city break I’d like to go on. We normally travel together with the exception of when I go on weekend trips with a friend or family or for work (which so far has only involved flying to a neighbouring country where I have family).

When I first mentioned it yesterday he essentially said “off with you” but his reaction later makes me think that this earlier comment was said because he thought I was joking. DH has no holidays left to take this year, I can WFH. I was considering doing a 3-4 night stay in this city and doing all of the things that I wouldn’t like to bore him with when we travel together eg taking myself off for a facial, some activities (think craft type things, etc). Great, I thought. I can WFH from the hotel and afterwards check out the landmarks, some shopping, etc. it would be my first solo trip in the sense that it would be the first time I’ve travelled alone purely for leisure for that amount of time, but I was looking forward to it and thought it would actually be good for my personal development.

Spoke about it again last night as I told DH about things that I don’t think he’d particularly enjoy doing that I was looking at doing in the city, and he said yeah but you’d need someone to watch your back there. I said I’m sure it would be fine, it’s a relatively safe city by any standard. He said “I’m not restricting you, you just can’t go on your own. Why don’t you wait til next year and see if (name of friend) can go with you. I said it’s not really the point, my friend might not want to go and I was particularly enjoying the prospect of going by myself. I

said I don’t see what it’s really got to do with you (perhaps this was wrong in hindsight). He said we’re married, we do everything together, to which I said that plenty of married people solo travel and he said “I don’t care, I don’t have to worry about them”. I said well ultimately it’s my choice and I have autonomy over my own actions.

He said that if I ignore his feelings then he’ll remember this for again and that we’ll have a big problem when I get back and that’s all he’s going to say, and that it’s not a threat. I replied by saying it does sound like a bit of a threat really. He said he didn’t want to hear anything else from me for the rest of the night, which also felt a bit patronising and like I was being chastised.

I should also mention that at some point in the conversation he asked why I needed to go away so often and I already go away 3-4 times a year with him and what’s the rush and do I want to just take a year out and travel or something and if that’s the case go off and do it (although I don’t see how that would be fine by him but a 3-4 city break isn’t, but anyway). I said that no, I don’t want to take a year out to go travelling and I’m perfectly happy with my life the way it is, but he said the signs are there that I want to be away all the time. I do like to go away, but it’s not to escape anything as such, I really do just like to see new places and thought it would be a good opportunity. I mean, I don’t question why he goes to the gym 3-4 times per week. I don’t feel like it’s any of my business. But I think I should be allowed to explore my hobbies as well.

Sorry this was so long! But does anyone have any experience of this? Did you go anyway? Did you decide against it?

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Mix56 · 21/05/2026 07:31

He wouldnt want a 2 hour session at the esthetician, or do any hobby, so accompanying you would not be his bag on this,
IME its nothing to do with going alone & safety, its about possession, trust & control 😟

Stillreadingalot · 20/05/2026 21:29

Apologies as have not read the whole thread. I've been married close on 35 years and we have both travelled without the other. Usually to visit family but I have for over 10 years gone on an annual trip with a small group of friends.

Last year at the grand old age of 61 I went on a week long holiday by myself to a country dh had no interest in visiting but which was a long held dream of mine - he was nothing but supportive and was delighted that I had a great time.

I'd expect my dh to be concerned about my safety and wellbeing but I'd be horrified if he tried to control me and treated me like a halfwit who couldnt go from a to b by myself.

You sound like an intelligent, confident, capable woman OP so don't allow yourself to be constrained in this way

LuckyHazelFox · 20/05/2026 21:14

hettie · 20/05/2026 13:00

Where the hell are you going that's so dangerous, downtown Mogadishu? It is a city break in Europe right? I've solo travelled a lot and only once felt a bit wobbly....in Bogotá (years ago, it's much better now). Spiking of drinks is rife in UK city centres and possibly a thing in European cities too, but having a hand on your drink at all times solves. Doesn't sound like you're planning big club nights though.
His behaviour and language would be a deal breaker for me. I would be furious and bitterly disappointed that I'd married a mysoginstic prick ....

Has she still not said where she's going? Says a lot about her thread.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/05/2026 21:12

sweetpickle2 · 20/05/2026 10:20

And yet you seem very concerned with what other people are doing or not doing in their jobs.

It's called having an opinion which is the whole point of AIBU. You seem very defensive but I'm sure I can see why.

hettie · 20/05/2026 13:00

Where the hell are you going that's so dangerous, downtown Mogadishu? It is a city break in Europe right? I've solo travelled a lot and only once felt a bit wobbly....in Bogotá (years ago, it's much better now). Spiking of drinks is rife in UK city centres and possibly a thing in European cities too, but having a hand on your drink at all times solves. Doesn't sound like you're planning big club nights though.
His behaviour and language would be a deal breaker for me. I would be furious and bitterly disappointed that I'd married a mysoginstic prick ....

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/05/2026 12:48

Witchonenowbob · 20/05/2026 09:20

That nailed it until the massive drip feed!

Tbh I didn’t think it was a huge drip feed

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 20/05/2026 12:21

Be a cold day in hell when a man told me what to do. The only reason my dh might object is if it was somewhere he wanted to go(and itd be a little sulk). If I said "Im off for a weekend doing stuff youre not interested" in i think hed b grateful to be let off.

sweetpickle2 · 20/05/2026 11:30

Popsicalpop · 20/05/2026 10:59

I think the problem is some partners find it embarrassing when their other half’s go off on holiday without them

Like they don’t like the comments others would make

my mum used to do a free trips with friends
could tell my dad didn’t really like it
but if others made comments such as if she’s off gallivanting again….
it would wind him up more

If I went on holiday on my own and my DP was embarrassed by someone saying "she's off galilvanting again" I'd tell him to grow up.

Popsicalpop · 20/05/2026 10:59

I think the problem is some partners find it embarrassing when their other half’s go off on holiday without them

Like they don’t like the comments others would make

my mum used to do a free trips with friends
could tell my dad didn’t really like it
but if others made comments such as if she’s off gallivanting again….
it would wind him up more

sweetpickle2 · 20/05/2026 10:20

LuckyHazelFox · 19/05/2026 22:24

I'm retired so I don't have to worry about taking the piss out of annual leave allowances. Do you?

And yet you seem very concerned with what other people are doing or not doing in their jobs.

Witchonenowbob · 20/05/2026 09:20

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/05/2026 07:35

First post as usual nails it

That nailed it until the massive drip feed!

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/05/2026 07:35

Faveway · 19/05/2026 09:38

Lots of red flags there Op! My partner would encourage me, take an interest in my plans and we'd have a chat every evening while I was away so I could be excited about everything I'd done.

First post as usual nails it

QuintadosMalvados · 20/05/2026 06:40

ThreadGuardDog · 19/05/2026 21:17

No. Her idea of fun is to wfh during a city break and use the spare time to sightsee and relax. There is no risk to this behaviour. His idea of fun is to go on a stag do to a place noted for it’s red light district with a bunch of blokes intent on getting wasted. There’s a huge difference here - especially if he has a history of this type of behaviour. Theirs is no more safety in numbers when your companions are a bunch of drunk idiots, than there is going alone.

She does not know he'll do anything dodgy.
That's a fact.
She doesn't trust him, why should he trust her?

Most other posters have left this thread since the Amsterdam bombshell.

Yet a few clinging on defending the OP.
A-mazing.

QuintadosMalvados · 20/05/2026 06:35

ThreadGuardDog · 19/05/2026 21:17

No. Her idea of fun is to wfh during a city break and use the spare time to sightsee and relax. There is no risk to this behaviour. His idea of fun is to go on a stag do to a place noted for it’s red light district with a bunch of blokes intent on getting wasted. There’s a huge difference here - especially if he has a history of this type of behaviour. Theirs is no more safety in numbers when your companions are a bunch of drunk idiots, than there is going alone.

Why are you so sure that he'd indulge in these activities?
You aren't, nor is she.
It's in your head and maybe he's.

Tell you what maybe he's aware of tripe like. Eat, Pray, Love and thinking the same of her.

99bottlesofkombucha · 19/05/2026 22:57

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:27

Everybody's idea of fun is different.
As long as it's legal, nobody has the right to judge.

If he gets his idea of fun quashed by her, then he can do it to her.

Cheating on your wife is legal, going to strippers is legal, having lap dances is legal, but the op having a solo holiday does not in any way mean she has accepted these activities in her marriage. Stop making completely false comparisons. You might as well say you bought a coffee after we discussed tightening our belts and saving money so you’ve given me the go ahead to spend hundreds of pounds on cocaine. These two things are quite different too.

LuckyHazelFox · 19/05/2026 22:24

sweetpickle2 · 19/05/2026 17:12

Why are you assuming OP and everyone else is a 'skiver'? Are you?

I'm retired so I don't have to worry about taking the piss out of annual leave allowances. Do you?

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 19/05/2026 21:53

If my husband said this he would not be my husband for much longer. I think I would be even angrier about "He said he didn’t want to hear anything else from me for the rest of the night" than trying to interfere in your travel plans, but both would be deal breakers.

He's now said (albeit grudgingly) that you can go. Go. Book as soon as possible so if he changes his mind again, you can't just capitulate. If he ever tries to give you a hard time about it afterwards, leave him.

ThreadGuardDog · 19/05/2026 21:17

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:27

Everybody's idea of fun is different.
As long as it's legal, nobody has the right to judge.

If he gets his idea of fun quashed by her, then he can do it to her.

No. Her idea of fun is to wfh during a city break and use the spare time to sightsee and relax. There is no risk to this behaviour. His idea of fun is to go on a stag do to a place noted for it’s red light district with a bunch of blokes intent on getting wasted. There’s a huge difference here - especially if he has a history of this type of behaviour. Theirs is no more safety in numbers when your companions are a bunch of drunk idiots, than there is going alone.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:56

FriendlyMedusa · 19/05/2026 18:32

Literally.

If OP said she wants to go and get drunk in Amsterdam, her DH would actually have a point.

No he wouldn't. She's an adult, she can get drunk if she wishes to.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:54

FriendlyMedusa · 19/05/2026 18:31

Laying down of the law
Such a disingenuous reading of what actually happened.

I can see you're either an angry man or a male-centred woman though, so I'll leave it at that.

Neither. Just have a sense of fairness.
I think that you're the type of woman who likes to have her cake and eat it.

limegreenheart · 19/05/2026 18:37

He didn't discuss his safety concerns with you, though. He tried to make a decision FOR you (it's unsafe to go alone, but safe to go next year with one other woman). That makes no sense - how can HE know better than YOU what YOU would be doing on a solo trip and what measures YOU would take to stay safe? He says he's specifically concerned about you as a solo female traveller, but he has not and cannot experience what that's like. He's stepping in and making a decision FOR you (or trying to) when your expertise is far greater than his.

Secondly, his solution doesn't make sense. You haven't said what the city is but I'm having a hard time thinking of someplace where it would be unsafe to visit as a careful, under the radar solo traveller but safe to go with a random other woman. In many cases, a solo traveller (especially one who can pass as a business traveller) will attract less attention and be safer due to being conscious of the need for safety. If your travelling companion is inexperienced or careless she could even be a liability. If you were planning to drink in public and leave your drink unattended or swim in the ocean and leave your things on the beach then sure, another person would be a help for those specific things - but as a solo traveler you probably wouldn't do these things in the first place.

He's also ignoring the fact that the specific desire for a solo trip is a large part of your reason for wanting to go. He's not saying "Gosh, Kharkiv's really close to the front lines right now - would you maybe think of visiting Vilnius or Kaunas this time instead?" He's saying you can NEVER take a solo trip. He may sincerely be worried about you, but he hasn't given YOU the respect of seriously considering your proposed trip for what it is. Maybe you didn't either with his Amsterdam trip; I'd suggest you both back off, make your concerns clear (not vague and assumed, as his have been) and let the person planning the trip explain the plan. Then you each can ask any questions or raise any concerns.

(It's a good thing I'm not married to him, as I would have taken "be off with you!" to mean "Go, have a nice trip, don't hang around here making me jealous I can't go!" and gone ahead and booked.)

FriendlyMedusa · 19/05/2026 18:32

EverydayRoutine · 19/05/2026 18:10

Some seriously false equivalences on this thread. Hint: everything is not equal to everything else.

In other words, sightseeing and crafting are not the same as "unsavoury antics" for someone who has form for drinking too much. Expressing concerns for someone's safety in less than ideal circumstances is not the same as saying, "You're not going on your own," threatening unspecified consequences, and commanding one's partner not to speak again for the rest of the night.

Literally.

If OP said she wants to go and get drunk in Amsterdam, her DH would actually have a point.

FriendlyMedusa · 19/05/2026 18:31

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:22

She started it with her laying down of the law.

And it's obvious that there was a trip to Amsterdam being planned and she shut it down. Planned or not, though,
the message is clear:

At no point would he be allowed to go to a location that she didn't approve of.

So what if it's a mad-bender location, he's entitled to have fun.

Though I do appreciate the (not so) tacit admission that a wife can control her dh but not the other way around.

Refreshing.

Laying down of the law
Such a disingenuous reading of what actually happened.

I can see you're either an angry man or a male-centred woman though, so I'll leave it at that.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:27

EverydayRoutine · 19/05/2026 18:10

Some seriously false equivalences on this thread. Hint: everything is not equal to everything else.

In other words, sightseeing and crafting are not the same as "unsavoury antics" for someone who has form for drinking too much. Expressing concerns for someone's safety in less than ideal circumstances is not the same as saying, "You're not going on your own," threatening unspecified consequences, and commanding one's partner not to speak again for the rest of the night.

Everybody's idea of fun is different.
As long as it's legal, nobody has the right to judge.

If he gets his idea of fun quashed by her, then he can do it to her.

QuintadosMalvados · 19/05/2026 18:22

FriendlyMedusa · 19/05/2026 18:09

Don't be ridiculous.

Even if this was fair, the fact he is condescendingly making it about OP's safety rather than admitting he's playing tit-for-tat is extremely childish.

But it's not fair regardless, because expressing your disapproval of a hypothetical lads' trip to a known mad-bender-location, that didn't even get planned let alone actually go ahead without her DH, is not the same thing as telling your wife she can't travel alone.

Edited

She started it with her laying down of the law.

And it's obvious that there was a trip to Amsterdam being planned and she shut it down. Planned or not, though,
the message is clear:

At no point would he be allowed to go to a location that she didn't approve of.

So what if it's a mad-bender location, he's entitled to have fun.

Though I do appreciate the (not so) tacit admission that a wife can control her dh but not the other way around.

Refreshing.