Feeling devastated after seeing this news about Afghanistan

The misogyny runs deep.

Throughout history, Afghanistan has been invaded by all sorts, has had to protect its borders. In my lifetime I remember it being invaded by the Russians.

The Taliban came from the Afghans themselves but got out of hand. It's up to them to change the regime and they can, they are heroic warriors, they've had to be. It's not going to happen overnight but it will happen.

In the meantime ordinary people suffer, including children. Isn't that always the way in war?

No instead of their daughters being raped and assaulted they are sending these "young teenage " males to the UK illegally and our daughters are being raped and assaulted 😡

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Donated money may end up in the hands of the regime who ALLOW child marriage and the oppression of women. Marrying kids of any age is allowed in this culture/religion.

What appalls me is why don’t the wealthy men in Afghanistan (or neighbouring countries) help their their fellow citizens (like wealthy men did in Britain in the 1700-1800s). They clearly have money to buy a child for sex - it’s fucking barbaric and these vile pedos should be researched and articles written on thrm - there must be many Afghan men raping kids if selling children is common.

I want to know more about the perps.
Why is being a pedo okay in Afghanistan? What part of Sharia law allows it? (No doubt someone will say it doesn’t - it clearly does if that is what the majority of Afghan men say - unless we are patronising enough to say they are too stupid to interpret their own religion). Why are boys dressed as women to dance for Afghan men etc? How many men partake in this? What do religious leaders in Afghanistan say about child rape?

I found this bit of research

https://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/id/eprint/173188/1/BB.Revised.pdf

It suggests sexually abusing boys is ‘almost mainstream in parts of the country’. Our government must know this yet they brought afghans into the country. It took me about 2 mins to find this research.

Any government official in Britain who took part in allowing Afghans to come here should be held accountable (stripped of pensions, imprisoned) for any children raped here by these men.

Part of the Conclusion of the article linked above.

The predatory sexual politics of bacha bazi introduces the reader to some difficult and
painful conclusions. Wartime sexual violence against boys in Afghanistan is not a corollary
of war, but intrinsically linked to the larger cultural and conflict dynamics. In the current
post-war setting, bacha bazi is carried out with impunity by the rich, the connected and the
powerful. Different factors and actors have connived to keep this practice under cover.
Inadequate legal framework, valorizations of toxic masculinity, societal double standards,
twisted gender norms and poverty of victims have all contributed to the perpetuation of this
abominable practice.
In spite of nearly two decade-long external involvements, archaic social traditions and
deep-seated gender norms have kept much of rural Afghanistan in a medieval state of
purgatory (Mondloch, 2013a; Misra, 2021). The larger society would appear to have turned a
32blind eye to bacha bazi while treating it as residues of an ancient practice. There exists
almost societal complicity in the continuation of this predatory sexual violence. It tolerates
this violence by considering it as part of the overall cultural milieu. Such prevalent cultural
perception has made bacha bazi almost mainstream in some parts of the country.
It cannot be stressed enough that the widespread subculture of pedophilia in
Afghanistan constitutes one of the most egregious ongoing violations of human rights in the
world (Mondloch, 2013). While there exists some legal provisions against bacha bazi, it is at
best feeble and mostly ineffective. The violator walks unabashed and free, because of the
prevalence of an unwritten culture of impunity that protects him.

I have unending sympathy for the girls and women of Afghanistan.

The men who are treating girls as currency instead of human beings deserve nothing but unending torment.

Thanks but no, there is no way on this earth I would support a charity whose major strategic partner is the Mormon Church. Again, not renowned for its good treatment of women and girls.

Yeah I know, and it's fucking disgusting wherever it happens. Don't know why you're saying it happens in the USA when this is a predominantly British forum though.

Sadly, I have to imagine much of the money and aid will be intercepted by men, and not reach the women and children it's supposed to help, like Live Aid in Ethiopia.

To be entirely fair, no Islamic countries apart from UAE have diplomatic relations with Afghanistan.

Pakistan and the Taliban have a notoriously difficult relationship. Iran does not recognise the Taliban as the government of Afghanistan but has what has been called a working relationship with them.

there are a fair few Islamic charities working within Afghanistan these days - here is one:

https://islamic-relief.org/where_we_work/afghanistan/

I know, I was being slightly facetious. But the article angered me so intensely. My number one question as the journalist would have been ‘why choose to sell your daughter rather than your son?’ Rather than all the BS justification of such an act of misogyny and absolute barbarism.

We cannot police the world. Afghanistan will need to sort it's own problems out. And those problems should not be allowed to be brought here.

It is exactly the same principle. I sent money to World Food Programme. The more it's publisised the more people will send money.

And the reason they can’t send the daughters is all those very sons / brothers / uncles and traffickers who are a risk.

The same men we are supposed to welcome.

The age for girls to be married there is 9......

It's often not adult men though. A lot of male Afghans who try to come here are 14 - 18. If you could get your son out of the country and away from the Taliban wouldn't you do the same? You know you can't send your daughter because somewhere along the line she going to be sexually assaulted and probably trafficked into exploitation so you'd at least try to get your son out. I know I would. I'd be hoping that at least one of my children could escape to something better.

"Almost 90% of women in Afghanistan have experienced at least one form of domestic violence, 17% have experienced sexual violence and 52% have experienced physical violence." - source

And I have to imagine the numbers are higher in reality - women have been so thoroughly oppressed that 92% of them think that a man is justified in beating their wife, and I doubt they even understand what enthusiastic consent is.

As I said on another thread, I have no sympathy for the men, only boundless contempt. They are nearly all, to a man, complicit in the abject dehumanisation of women, who legally have fewer rights and protections than livestock. The society is rotten to its core.

Personally, I would rather myself and my children all died - I would rather murder-suicide, like some families who faced the prospect of Nazi concentration camps - than to sell my daughter off to be raped for the rest of her life from the age of 10.

But of course, posters should remember if any of us were in Afghanistan and actually had to face this, it wouldn't be up to us - because as women we'd have no rights and our husbands who owned us would be the ones deciding, and legally beating us if we dared to protest.

No-one would buy him.

boy children are also sold to men for sex.
(this is strictly forbidden under Islam as is any kind of homosexuality) but the Afghani men ignore those bits of the Koran they don’t like.

The irony of it being a supposedly religious country. A cesspit of hideous practices and norms. What do you expect when nearly every girl has zero rights and most boys is either taught to enslave women or are slaves themselves.

Honestly though, don’t lose sleep over it, there is zilch, zero, nada you or I can do about it and nothing will ever change, they’re quite literally on their own and no one can save them because there is no desire or motivation to change.

Zero sympathy for human traffickers and if you sell your child that’s what you are.

Selling little children to pedos to become sex slaves and child brides. Rather than fight for your children and country. Scum.

Run away claiming you’re trying to better your women and girls yet leaving them to suffer. Yuk.

Always the men benefiting all the bloody time. While women and girls suffer.

We know why.

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Also, how could you morally observe this and not help? What’s the point of money being sent? Where to? Which fraudulent and corrupt organisations? It’s not a David Attenborough documentary where camera people and crew are not usually permitted to interfere with nature.

Someone up thread said it's under aid sanctions. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that but sanctions legislation exempts humanitarian aid, including in Afghanistan. There are definitely international charities operating there.

Journalist are there to observe and report not change events. By reporting it well money will be sent.

What I never understand is why the modern Islamic world isn’t also up in arms about the treatment of their Muslim sisters and brothers at the hands of this rag tag bunch of scum. Surely they’re aware of Muslim children starving and being raped at the whims of the Taliban? Surely they’re aware of the misrepresentation of Islam? They could be instrumental in putting pressure and shame on this ungodly regime. But they don’t. Why?