I'm fed up with everyone tiptoeing around Brexit having been rubbish

I'm just telling you what people who support Brexit say.

I did ask AI if those numbers are correct and it said yes.

30% of people is still a lot of people

In an ideal world I would completely agree with you.
In fact, when the referendum was first announced I was certain I was going to vote leave. But did a ton of research, watched a lot of debates, asked other people their opinions, weighed it all up and ended up voting remain.
The problem is, we don’t live in an ideal world. People often don’t make the effort to inform themselves. That’s all very well and good in a GE where nothing is permanent, but not for something like Brexit.

This guy is a Reform propagandist. I’ll take the opinion of the vast consensus of economists over his views.

You’re not wrong. It has been an utter shitshow. Absolutely wrecked the nation just so the billionaires could save a few quid - and getting the poorest to vote for it. What a scam.

God only knows. Only around 30% of people still think that it was a good idea. 70% of the electorate realise that it has been a disaster in every way.

You’re right, op. It’s like we voted to cut our own arms off and now it’s considered quite a bold stance to suggest that cutting our own arms off has failed to produce the expected benefits, rather than anyone saying the truth, which is that it is and always was an irrational act of self harm that could
only ever have led to a bad outcome.

They're all terrified of offending the small number of clowns who still think it was a good idea
@Firetreev

If the numbers are so small why are politicians terrified of offending them?

I’m not sure the EU is great - they can’t decide anything as every member must agree - so Ukraine never got the millions of Russian money due until Orbam was voted out and they still have Russian gas.
is there a joined up rule on immigration- no
They Pharma etc companies are having to manufacture in the USA -which will change profits
havethey ever agreed on fishing
Our currency is backed by the Bank of England - the Euro is backed by no one.
i would suggest being wary
Plus it’s unlikely we would get as generous conditions as last time -we are poorer why would they be generous also we might have a very right wing PM
We need to fix the U.K., growth, immigration - THEN look at EU

Many say it hasn't weakened our economy because the EU's economy has been so poor.

They'll say stuff like the UK's growth has been double that of Germany's for the last decade:

https://x.com/statsjamie/status/2056459211421417574

How could she be happier when she is driven by such ridiculous nihilism?

So people who voted for it know it was a terrible idea and has fatally weakened our economy but they don’t regret it because it gave them an opportunity to stick two fingers up at the people who told them it was going to happen?

And its all OK and we can continue to stick our fingers in our ears and carry on as long as no one is being patronised? Jesus wept.

I agree OP. The fact we ate still indulging this denial is deeply disturbing. I don’t know what it says about us that we can’t acknowledge that we have fucked up.

Because apparently that’s what people wanted. I think he underestimated the influence and money Farage brought to the “debate”.

Whatever about the rights and wrongs of this approach. Why would the UK have to do what Spain did?

It’s not EU policy it’s solely a Spanish one.

I agree. They're all terrified of offending the small number of clowns who still think it was a good idea. Why are we being held hostage by the opinions of idiots? They voted for this mess and they should be made to own it. Instead we have politicians worried about upsetting then.

Tiptoeing? 🤣

It's the most whinged about topic on here alongside Reform. I think your post applies more to Labour.

I think people have been shouting it for years but just given up because we got called remoaners . In the end we just thought ‘ fuck it feeling the pain is going to be the only thing that wakes you up to it you morons’!

Wha do you mean ‘nobody is allowed to say’? Thats just not true, so stop making things up. You are allowed to say it.

On a rational note, and not a hysterical one, being against Brexit is reasonably logical position to have. Calling voters stupid? Well, how’s that working out for you so far?

lol because everyone is currently so delighted with how immigration is handled in the UK?

Yup, but as always, we get fucked anyway.

I don’t believe anyone who voted for Brexit should be allowed to apply for an Irish/EU passport although I’m aware that there is no way of implementing this.

Great. Hope she’s happier now?

Boris Johnson's face, after months of rallying up the masses, when the country actually voted to withdraw was certainly something.

It just highlighted almost perfectly how little seriousness they all had with what they were doing didn't it. None of them took the fact it could happen as any type of serious threat, hence Boris rally up the masses and Cameron's half hearted attempt at EU "negotiations" then Bamb, consequences to your actions.

Why?

I agree. Brexit is the one thing that isn't properly talked about. We could do with the ways in which it has negatively affected us being openly discussed. I don't know that trying to rejoin would be a good idea at this moment - perhaps if it was discussed, I'd have more idea.
If we hadn’t left we would still have all the boats but we would be £9 billion pounds down (net) or £15 billion gross a year.The boats only started coming post-Brexit (2019?). They come now because we can no longer send them back now we're not in the EU.