And just like that... MAFS is over

I’m sure tv executives will think up other ways to demean and abuse women as “entertainment”. They’ll just get them to sign non disclosure agreements next time.

Stop watching the trash and it’ll go off air.

No sorry. The woman in this case, while making a fool of herself, didn't take what wasn't freely given.

Exactly, that is the point I am trying to make.

How many men have made allegations of sexual assault?

I have no words...

How can someone’s life and reputation be ruined if they’re anonymous? If you’re a woman you should be ashamed of yourself.

I agree. They are not the same. One we have proof for, yet the victim hasn't (as far as we know) set out to ruin the offenders reputation. The other we have absolutely no proof of, yet the alleged victims have set out to ruin their alleged offenders lives and reputation.

I don't know why you're jumping on op for this comment. The expert's coercion of contestants of both sexes to have sex when they don't want to has and is also being discussed on this thread, alongside the rape issues. It is possible to acknowledge and discuss both issues without it being turned into a competition about which is worse. Refusing to acknowledge that men are coerced into to sex as much as women on the show because women are the only ones who can legally be raped doesn't benefit anyone.

I agree. They are not the same. One we have proof for, yet the victim hasn't (as far as we know) set out to ruin the offenders reputation. The other we have absolutely no proof of, yet the alleged victims have set out to ruin their alleged offenders lives and reputation.

How many men have made allegations of sexual assault?

I don't know why you're jumping on op for this comment. The expert's coercion of contestants of both sexes to have sex when they don't want to has and is also being discussed on this thread, alongside the rape issues. It is possible to acknowledge and discuss both issues without it being turned into a competition about which is worse. Refusing to acknowledge that men are coerced into to sex as much as women on the show because women are the only ones who can legally be raped doesn't benefit anyone.

Did she rape him?

Even in the early series I was stunned that so called certified therapists and psychologists were endorsing the project, there was little regard in my book for the potential psychological harm caused. The Australian version was completely whack in regards to both the matching and the wellbeing of the contestants. My father loved it and I really suffered being forced to watch to maintain rapport with him while caring for him as I knew a lot of it was edited and staged and frankly insulting to my intelligence.

I have a huge problem with TV psychologists/therapists. They appear to get away with crossing professional (as well as publicly making dubious assertions around the data of a topic) lines in a way they just wouldn't be allowed to in private practice. This really stood out during the Letby saga. I think regulations need to be tightened around their ethics and conduct in the media and I really hope any therapists involved in this program around the time these women were sexually assaulted are called to explain themselves. And if misconduct is found, their licences need to be revoked.

Because most certainly a lot of the pressure on these women to continue in the program when they were uncomfortable would have been a result of disappointing the 'experts'. A sort of 'white coat syndrome'. The experts are telling them it is good to have sex to make the project work, increase bonding and telling them the science says, making them doubt themselves in a way they wouldn't if the advice had come from a non- professional. But the variables and conditions of the so-called 'experiment' aren't as closely controlled as they would be in a real experiment.

It reminds me of old psych experiments on coercion a lot of which are deemed highly unethical now.

In any case, it's a total misuse of professional authority.

A terrible situation. To think the audience was enjoying it unaware. How vile.

All need to be held accountable. Producers, therapists, perpetrators.

As for Reality TV, it cannot die fast enough. I doubt it will though.

The blindfold is to represent the law being applied impartially, objectively and equally and in this case it is not. One of the accusers stayed with her 'husband' for six weeks after the end of the show in which she is now stating she was subject to (at best) sexual assault. If you were accused of sexual assault under these circumstances, would you not expect people to effectively laugh in her face? These allegations should never have seen the light of day let alone be in the public domain.

Accuse me of word salad all you like but the way the law is rightly applied means there are people being accused of stuff that they may or may not have done but the time to act appropriately was AT THE TIME. Not now when they have zero hope of defending themselves.

Good I hate these low quality exploitative type of programmes , I used to hate channel 5s rage bait benefits programmes too, thankfully they have given up with those . You sign up to something with no editorial control and what they portray doesn’t always paint the true picture and it might be available forever to watch.

I agree. They are not the same. One we have proof for, yet the victim hasn't (as far as we know) set out to ruin the offenders reputation. The other we have absolutely no proof of, yet the alleged victims have set out to ruin their alleged offenders lives and reputation.

The blindfold is to represent the law being applied impartially, objectively and equally and in this case it is not. One of the accusers stayed with her 'husband' for six weeks after the end of the show in which she is now stating she was subject to (at best) sexual assault. If you were accused of sexual assault under these circumstances, would you not expect people to effectively laugh in her face? These allegations should never have seen the light of day let alone be in the public domain.

Accuse me of word salad all you like but the way the law is rightly applied means there are people being accused of stuff that they may or may not have done but the time to act appropriately was AT THE TIME. Not now when they have zero hope of defending themselves.

Exactly. False equivalence.