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Do people say this about other places?

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Schoolchoicesucks · 18/05/2026 09:17

I was at a family birthday over the weekend and chatting to a friend of theirs I hadn't previously met.

They asked where I was from and when I said "Xxxx in north London", they immediately pulled a face and said "Oh, poor you, I'm in London all the time for work, hate it".

This isn't the first time someone's said similar to me - on a work related training course - held in central London - a couple of weeks ago, the trainer was talking to me and another attendee. There was a tube strike so we'd already talked about our disrupted journeys and where we'd travelled from, both of them started saying how much they "can't wait" to leave London at the end of the work day.

Do people ever say this about other places - you meet someone, ask where they're from and when they respond "Preston*" you immediately say "Oh I went there once, what a shithole, couldn't wait to leave it"?

(* Preston chosen at random, don't think I've ever been there. I'm sure it's perfectly lovely. Or has a mix of lovely and less lovely parts just like everywhere else. Including London).

Isn't it rude to be so negative about where someone lives? Why do people do this?

YABU - people say it all the time about loads of places
YANBU =people only say it about London

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MsGreying · 18/05/2026 10:53

Yes.
Oldham.
The only reason people have been is if their team played Oldham Athletic.
The good thing about Oldham is that it has good links to motorways and transport away.

OriginalSkang · 18/05/2026 10:47

AllBranGirl · 18/05/2026 10:39

You’ve you’ve seriously never heard anyone being rude about the north? Never heard the awful tropes about people from, for example, Liverpool?

How very London centric of you!

To be fair, she has presumably never heard anything about 'Essex girls', and Essex is pretty much London, according to some

AllBranGirl · 18/05/2026 10:39

You’ve you’ve seriously never heard anyone being rude about the north? Never heard the awful tropes about people from, for example, Liverpool?

How very London centric of you!

Turnitoffnonagain · 18/05/2026 10:38

xino · 18/05/2026 10:33

I think it’s great that some people are immediately rude about your home town. It tells you everything you need to know about them. Rude, ill-mannered, thoughtless and egotistical. You can then avoid them for ever more.

This ⬆️ Precisely.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/05/2026 10:37

Monty36 · 18/05/2026 09:44

I had to put up with this when I worked in the North. People would openly talk negatively about anywhere in the South and then say ‘oh sorry forgot you were there’. I had no idea the North loathed Southerners until I moved there. And can honestly say Southerners do not talk about Northerners in the same degree and breadth of dislike. It was quite odd.

Some of it was banter. Fine. No problem. I can tell the difference.
But clearly a lot of it really really wasn’t.
And it wasn’t about being blunt either.

I used to have a friend who once stated quite aggressively that everyone from the south of the U.K. was a snob. She was from Leeds, and we were all living in Oman at the time.
Dh is a Londoner, born and bred, I am from ‘general’ southeast. I said, ‘So do you think dh and I are snobs, then?’
’No!’
’Well then.’

But I know she still thought all southerners were snobs. She had some sort of massive chip on her shoulder.

lottiegarbanzo · 18/05/2026 10:34

London is too big for people to perceive a remark like that as personal.

If they said ‘oh you’re from Dollis Hill? What a shithole’, that would be rude.

xino · 18/05/2026 10:33

I think it’s great that some people are immediately rude about your home town. It tells you everything you need to know about them. Rude, ill-mannered, thoughtless and egotistical. You can then avoid them for ever more.

Angrybird76 · 18/05/2026 10:28

You should try being a Northerner living in London. I get comments like that relatively frequently. People seem to think you live in a cave and dont get fresh bread or garlic in the North.

Yesitsmeimback · 18/05/2026 10:24

Im from Luton literally no one even people from there have ever said anything nice about it 😂😂😂

trainedopossum · 18/05/2026 10:23

I’m from New Jersey, known since the 70s as the armpit of America. An English acquaintance described it to me as the Birmingham of America which made a change.

SillyQuail · 18/05/2026 10:22

I'm from the northwest and everyone from the south makes a face when I say where I'm from and says something like "I think I changed trains there once". Some places are just considered not very nice by a lot of people. A lot of northerners dislike London, a lot of southerners think the north is all grim.

FruAashild · 18/05/2026 10:22

Flamingojune · 18/05/2026 10:08

So whys it full of tourists and 2nd homes?

The tourists and second homes are not in Glasgow or Greenock or Paisley or Inverclyde.

MrsShawnHatosy · 18/05/2026 10:21

Flamingojune · 18/05/2026 10:08

So whys it full of tourists and 2nd homes?

I mean more to live in, rather than visit. Like on here if someone says they are relocating here and where is a nice place to live people are a bit ewww.

ERthree · 18/05/2026 10:20

takealettermsjones · 18/05/2026 09:23

It's quite funny that you chose Preston as a random example, because that's the place I've more consistently heard described as a shithole than any other place in the country 🤣 (I'm from Lancashire and know it well!)

People don't do this about everywhere, no. In my experience there are three categories of place that can rightly be described as shitholes: run down Northern towns, garish seaside resorts, and massive cities.

I love Preston

AllPlayedOut · 18/05/2026 10:18

Yes they do. I’ve seen and heard plenty of rude comments about the North from people in the South including comments about there being no culture and mocking their accents. It’s incredibly rude regardless of who is doing it and which town or city they are insulting. You are much more likely to notice it when people insult your particular city though.

ButterYellowFlowers · 18/05/2026 10:17

Monty36 · 18/05/2026 10:11

What do you mean ‘nope’. That was my experience !
As to mocking Northerners accents. Never in my world in the South did anyone I know sit around mocking Northern accents.
We don’t talk about you particularly. Let alone laugh at your accent. I certainly don’t recognise your sentiment either about nothing to do up there. I think that is what you would like people to be saying. But they don’t.

And as to justifying disliking Southerners. It has nothing to do with poverty. There are rich and poor all over. Seriously.
I suspect it goes back further and stems from the appalling harrowing of the North. And Northerners have got into a sort of stuck record for complaining about the South. And do not seem able to get out of it.

That was your experience and I’m telling you MY experience which is that over the decade I’ve lived in the south people have done insulting impressions of my accent frequently and mocked it. You’re saying that never happens and that southerners don’t even think about us - when my experience shows the opposite. I wasn’t saying that what happened to you wasn’t true, I fully believe it, but your opinion of southerners attitudes to northerners is false for many as my experiences show.

Most southerners aren’t like that - like my DH and friends and colleagues. But many are and are extremely rude to and about northerners.

Yes, I imagine it does come from the harrying of the north and subsequent centuries of disgust for the north as the centre of industry (you only have to read Gaskell’s North and South so see the attitude circa 1800s) or the fact that regional accents weren’t featured on the BBC until the last decade.

It’s outdated and a grudge but it is most definitely upheld by people on both sides… and it’s the northerners that often face social disadvantage because of it.

FruAashild · 18/05/2026 10:16

Have you read the threads where people ask about leaving London? According to Londoners there's no culture anywhere else, everyone outside of the capitol is racist and there's no jobs. So the hatred goes both ways.

Even ignoring London there's a stated dislike for competitor cities. E.g. Oxford vs Cambridge, Glasgow v Edinburgh. Most of the time it's jocular.

JLou08 · 18/05/2026 10:16

I've had it said to me about the town I grew up in. I only left a few years ago. I visit now and I can see why people said it.

FudgeFudy · 18/05/2026 10:15

I think it's because it's perceived as punching up

I agree. London is a proper international city - possibly the international city, it is the hub of many of the industries that make the UK tick as well as of UK politics, if you can make it in London you can make it anywhere, and all life is there. It so obviously is a fantastic buzzing place that provincial Pam or Pete having a pop is neither here nor there.

Monty36 · 18/05/2026 10:11

ButterYellowFlowers · 18/05/2026 09:48

Nope but as a Northerner who has lived in London for a decade I can tell you southerners mock our accents frequently, tell me I say words stupidly and often say ‘God I couldn’t live so far away from anywhere of any consequence, there’s nothing to do up there.’ Etc etc.

You just don’t hear it because you’re not northern. And that’s forgetting the generations of being treated as lower class and having less investment in northern areas leaving northerners feeling abandoned by the government and ignored by the capital.

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What do you mean ‘nope’. That was my experience !
As to mocking Northerners accents. Never in my world in the South did anyone I know sit around mocking Northern accents.
We don’t talk about you particularly. Let alone laugh at your accent. I certainly don’t recognise your sentiment either about nothing to do up there. I think that is what you would like people to be saying. But they don’t.

And as to justifying disliking Southerners. It has nothing to do with poverty. There are rich and poor all over. Seriously.
I suspect it goes back further and stems from the appalling harrowing of the North. And Northerners have got into a sort of stuck record for complaining about the South. And do not seem able to get out of it.

Lurkingandlearning · 18/05/2026 10:11

I was once told that slagging off London was different to slagging off anyone else's home town because it is the capital which means it "belongs" to everyone. I disagree and find it rude and I match that by saying, "Don't let us keep you."

FlyingApple · 18/05/2026 10:10

I once told a southerner where I was from and they told me they'd been before and it was an absolute shit hole 🤷‍♀️

Flamingojune · 18/05/2026 10:08

MrsShawnHatosy · 18/05/2026 09:53

I know of many places in Scotland that are routinely absolutely dismissed and pilloried and looked down on by people who have never ever visited.

Wales too. Everyone seems to think it’s one big shithole.

So whys it full of tourists and 2nd homes?

Flamingojune · 18/05/2026 10:04

Its rude, narrow minded and ignorant. But i guess its just a silly trope much like southerners saying its grim up north

WirralWool · 18/05/2026 10:03

I think it’s culture shock. London is so overwhelming if you’re not used to it. I love it, but I do understand why lots of people find it so painful. I can remember my DD being terrified in a big crowd at Covent Garden, and refused to move (she was 18!) She was scared that she’d bump into someone. I told her to just put her head down and walk and she said “I can’t! I’m too northern!” 😂

On the flip side, try being scouse. I don’t think there’s a single city in the UK that people are so quick to denigrate the place and its people.