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AIBU to ask people not to poop in new under stairs cloakroom?

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keepswimming38 · 17/05/2026 20:46

We are just having a new cloakroom installed downstairs. AIBU to put a sign up saying ‘no poo loo’ or ‘if you plan to do a poo do it in the upstairs loo’?

My DH thinks it’s not reasonable. I just down like the idea of people doing a poop in there and then the macerator having to … anyway AIBU?

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loislovesstewie · 08/06/2026 10:37

LBFseBrom · 07/06/2026 23:24

I always thought it was normal good manners not to poop downstairs. Exceptions are for people who cannot manage stairs, but most able bodied people go up for that.

If you live in a bungalow or a flat you have no choice and have to accept it.

Sorry but that's crackers. I don't get why loos have to be designated for different functions. In my home people do what they need in any of the loos. And the downstairs one is more out of the way than the upstairs ones. And I would object to having to announce what I was doing by my destination loo.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 08/06/2026 09:22

Some posters on here have said that they feel that going upstairs in someone else's house is an intrusion into a more private part of the house, @LBFseBrom. I have no objections to people going upstairs at my house - when we moved house, our movers had a shower before leaving because they'd driven overnight to get to us, and would be doing the same again.

Equally, I've no objection to people pooing in the downstairs loo - but then I have never had a bad experience with a visitor or workman leaving it in an unacceptable condition - if I had, I might feel differently.

CombatBarbie · 07/06/2026 23:39

keepswimming38 · 17/05/2026 20:50

Because it’s not a macerator.

Id be putting signs up saying no wipes/tampons down the toilet or anyone thats got rock hard constipation...... I talk from experience!!

LBFseBrom · 07/06/2026 23:24

I always thought it was normal good manners not to poop downstairs. Exceptions are for people who cannot manage stairs, but most able bodied people go up for that.

If you live in a bungalow or a flat you have no choice and have to accept it.

OonaStubbs · 07/06/2026 20:54

Maybe we should go back to Victoria times and ask guests to "poop" out of the window?

janj52301 · 07/06/2026 14:52

We once rented a house and the contract said no pooing downstairs, the installation didn't have much of a down slope on the sewer so it backed up, couldn't use too much paper either so made the children use upstairs for everything!! We were warned so agreed otherwise we'd have had to pay for dynorod

KitTea3 · 22/05/2026 00:28

It's a toilet....you do realise that pooing much like urinating is a natural bodily function yes? So yes you are absolutely being unreasonable 🤣

Reminds me of an ex who insisted that if I needed to fart I should take myself to the bathroom to do so ...😭

Cosimarocks · 22/05/2026 00:25

Anonbakerylady · 22/05/2026 00:17

Ah, I actually feel really sorry for the bloke, I wonder if the wife was controlling in other ways. Did he carry on coming in after his cover was blown?

Quite! Poor chap.

Yes he did. Always one pint (and the poo). We had a few 11am-ers who’d come in on opening, but most were clearly alcoholics who would either never really leave or would be in and out all day and evening. Not him. Always wondered why the pint and whether that was it for the day. Perhaps he carried on elsewhere or maybe he just felt he had to order something and didn’t realise we did coffee and tea!

Anonbakerylady · 22/05/2026 00:17

Cosimarocks · 21/05/2026 23:30

When I was younger I worked in a pub. Every morning as we were getting ready to open a man would arrive and sit on the bench opposite the pub with his newspaper waiting for us to open. When we did he would come in, order a pint of bitter, and then say, ‘just going to let it settle’, before disappearing with his paper to the loos for (what we all assumed was) a shit. 15 minutes later he’d be back. None of us had the nerve to say anything to him, though obviously he was well known and talked about by the staff. All rather grim.

Then one day a new barman started. He had no filter. He’d been there about a week and had heard about the chap and noticed his routine, when he asked the man one morning why he came in for his morning dump. The rest of us didn’t know where to look but, amazingly, the man didn’t seem offended and answered him: ‘Because my wife doesn’t let me shit in the house’….

Ah, I actually feel really sorry for the bloke, I wonder if the wife was controlling in other ways. Did he carry on coming in after his cover was blown?

Cosimarocks · 21/05/2026 23:30

When I was younger I worked in a pub. Every morning as we were getting ready to open a man would arrive and sit on the bench opposite the pub with his newspaper waiting for us to open. When we did he would come in, order a pint of bitter, and then say, ‘just going to let it settle’, before disappearing with his paper to the loos for (what we all assumed was) a shit. 15 minutes later he’d be back. None of us had the nerve to say anything to him, though obviously he was well known and talked about by the staff. All rather grim.

Then one day a new barman started. He had no filter. He’d been there about a week and had heard about the chap and noticed his routine, when he asked the man one morning why he came in for his morning dump. The rest of us didn’t know where to look but, amazingly, the man didn’t seem offended and answered him: ‘Because my wife doesn’t let me shit in the house’….

Cosimarocks · 21/05/2026 23:17

Many years ago my grandparents had their kitchen done. My grandmother really liked her sink and decided that using the sink would spoil it, so my poor grandfather, who was in his late 80s, was sent out into a utility room in an old garage, not accessible from the house, to do the washing up or fill the kettle.

Things are there to be used. Don’t be my grandmother.

aberamagold · 21/05/2026 23:10

HoraceCope · 18/05/2026 10:42

three times a day?
who has time for that?

People with healthy bowels, who only take a minute to pass a couple of lovely type 4's without any straining.

maxslice · 19/05/2026 21:03

Where I live, being a guest in someone’s home and going upstairs without expressly being invited is rude. The bedrooms and upstairs living areas are private and for family only. Just put an “Out of Order” sign on the door instead of having your guests do a public walk of shame upstairs. Again, I must ask, why you bothered to put a toilet in if it’s off limits? Why not just a sink if you need one?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 19/05/2026 16:41

since it’s not a topic that’s usually discussed in detail (!)

Are you new to MN?! Grin

Newsunflower · 19/05/2026 15:38

Well this thread has given me a lot of belly laughs which is great, thank you! And on a more serious note, I’ve learned that this is one of those issues where people have very different experiences and since it’s not a topic that’s usually discussed in detail (!) we don’t realise that everyone is not like us! It seems that some people poo according to a schedule, and assume that everyone does the same or if they don’t it’s something a bit antisocial that is deliberate and could be avoided. Others poo whenever, when they feel their bowels are going to open then they go to the nearest toilet; and the idea of not doing this or of this being a ‘wrong’ thing to do is quite bizarre. I’m in the latter group; I’ve definitely learned something new about other people (although not sure if I really wanted to know that others are judging me for opening my bowels…!)

PigletJohn · 19/05/2026 12:02

grumpygrape · 19/05/2026 11:19

Exactly this. In fact most builder/plumbers when installing a loo, whether a macerator or not, in a space with no window will link the mandatory fan to the light switch and the fan will continue for a while after the light is switched back off.

Some people have such an aversion to ventilation that they not only refuse to turn a fan on, they actually disconnect it, remove the fuse, or turn off the maintenance isolator.

BTW a typical modern extractor fan will run for about 100 hours on 22pence worth of electricity, and should be inaudible when the door is shut.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 19/05/2026 11:23

Probably lt cause downstairs toilets don’t have an extractor fan & some don’t have a wi dow to let the smell out!

I really hope that was a typo, and it isn't a common thing for women who have lost their husbands to have to spend their days living in somebody's toilet, frantically wafting out pongs, to be able to make ends meet Grin

katepilar · 19/05/2026 11:20

AlmostAJillSandwich · 17/05/2026 23:25

My ex moved into an emergency shithole flat without viewing and only found out it was a macerator toilet afterwards. Odd set up, was an upstairs bathroom but in a house where it had been split vertically into two properties. He was in the front half with no back yard etc, so his bathroom was like an ensuite, no soil pipe, it connected to the neighbours soil pipe. It had no window, and a broken extractor fan. He had no idea he couldn't use toilet wipes with a macerator, or certain cleaning products, until i told him.

I HATED visiting him. As someone with toilet related severe OCD, i use excessive paper even for wees, plus i have IBS and typically need wet wipes so was taking immodium before every visit as the distance meant an overnight stay and i struggle even weeing in public toilets to go on the journey home. I tried that wype gel that makes regular loo roll into wet wipes, it did not work well at all. There were a handful of instances in the 18 months he was there that i just had to go, and the anxiety of it was awful. Including the fear of a power cut meaning no flushing loo!

I don't think the majority would intentionally use a downstairs toilet for a crap (minus my late grandma once at a family houseparty, it was, memorable) because it's obvious it will cause a stink that lingers, most would surely be more comfortable going upstairs where nobody will hear or smell their bowels, so i doubt a sign is neccessary.

You do need to accept though that it is going to happen sometimes. Your daughter should get a free pass really, plus it could be unavoidable if the upstairs bathroom is in use and someone really needs to go.

Not all downstairs toilets are this inconvenient. Some of them are perfectly ok to use without making the whole house stink.

grumpygrape · 19/05/2026 11:19

loislovesstewie · 19/05/2026 09:55

Or maybe open the window /, use the extractor fan, and/or a bit of air freshener.

Exactly this. In fact most builder/plumbers when installing a loo, whether a macerator or not, in a space with no window will link the mandatory fan to the light switch and the fan will continue for a while after the light is switched back off.

grumpygrape · 19/05/2026 11:12

TinkersBelle · 19/05/2026 09:31

Probably lt cause downstairs toilets don’t have an extractor fan & some don’t have a wi dow to let the smell out! My DIL use to 💩 in mine all the time & I clearly asked him not to for the above reasons but he was a pig of a man who liked to piss on the floor too he was that way inclined!

Building regs say downstairs loos must have either a window or a fan

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 19/05/2026 10:51

Dolphin78 · 19/05/2026 10:31

Totally agree. We have a downstairs loo just off/in our kitchen and EVERYONE knows the no pooh rule. (I sometimes have one when nobody is here but me 🤐)

So everybody know the rule, but you're the only one who breaks it? Or maybe other people do too, when they're at home alone (or at least when you are out)... so there's effectively no actual rule at all?!

Dolphin78 · 19/05/2026 10:31

Totally agree. We have a downstairs loo just off/in our kitchen and EVERYONE knows the no pooh rule. (I sometimes have one when nobody is here but me 🤐)

PlainSkyr · 19/05/2026 10:28

would you like to hear the story of how a visitor did such a hard poo in my downstairs toilet that it wouldn’t flush at all? Never mind…GrinGrinGrin

yabu to put up instructions of any kind

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 19/05/2026 10:12

LordofMisrule1 · 19/05/2026 09:52

I think it's just about basic respect for others. Being aware of how your own actions can cause discomfort to others. It's similar to being aware not to douse yourself with strong perfume before a flight, not speaking loudly into your phone on speaker on a bus, not playing loud music on a train, etc. just basic manners. It being a bodily function doesn't really change that imo, we accept that sneezing and coughing are bodily functions you can't help and still expect people not to do it into somebody's face, we expect to cough into a tissue or elbow.

If there is no other option then sure, go for it. But with all things equal if you can avoid your poo aroma being inhaled by others, why wouldn't you? Each to their own but it's just simple manners and consideration for others I feel.

I get that, and I agree for the most part; but if a purpose-designed toilet in a private room/cubicle isn't the appropriate place to have a poo, where is?

It isn't going to kill anybody to walk past a just-used toilet and notice that there's a bit of a pong. Babies poo into their nappies, which obviously stinks until they can be changed, and parents take them out in public all the time. It's fine; we can survive it.

KilkennyCats · 19/05/2026 10:06

LordofMisrule1 · 19/05/2026 09:52

I think it's just about basic respect for others. Being aware of how your own actions can cause discomfort to others. It's similar to being aware not to douse yourself with strong perfume before a flight, not speaking loudly into your phone on speaker on a bus, not playing loud music on a train, etc. just basic manners. It being a bodily function doesn't really change that imo, we accept that sneezing and coughing are bodily functions you can't help and still expect people not to do it into somebody's face, we expect to cough into a tissue or elbow.

If there is no other option then sure, go for it. But with all things equal if you can avoid your poo aroma being inhaled by others, why wouldn't you? Each to their own but it's just simple manners and consideration for others I feel.

None of those antisocial acts are in any way similar to shitting in a toilet 😆
Using a toilet for its intended purpose is a perfectly normal thing to do.
if you choose to install a loo in a tiny windowless cupboard, you’ve created the associated problems yourself.