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To find 'Eurovision is rubbish' know-it-alls tedious in the extreme?

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 10:38

Every single year, we get this - invariably from people who never even remotely think about the existence of Eurovision until May. What on earth do they get from it?

"It's all complete rubbish/farcical/a waste of time."
Absolutely fine, then ignore it, the same as you presumably do with other optional things that don't interest you at all.

"It's all political and nobody votes for the songs anyway."
Yes, there's always going to be an element of politics in something as big as that, but isn't it fascinating how the best songs almost always seem to win and dominate the top of the board, whilst the mediocre and nondescript ones often languish at the bottom?

"Everybody hates the UK - especially since Brexit."
We've won several times and we came second only a few years ago - 'coincidentally' when we sent a great singer, a great song, a great performance and great staging. Also, lots of the regular participants aren't and never were in the EU. Are you genuinely surprised that a lacklustre song and a poor performance isn't in most people's Top 10 favourites - especially considering that we're one of the two countries that dominate global pop music, and we have the native language advantage too?

"Australia isn't even in Europe - it's called EUROvision!!!!"
Gosh, you're the first person to ever have noticed that! Thanks so much for informing us!

"I don't even know who any of these artists are."
Some of them are young and up-and-coming talented singers; some of them are extremely well-known and very popular in their own and other continental countries; if you dislike international music so much and you "never watch this rubbish", why on earth would you expect to have deep knowledge of the artists?

"I DO know who some of these artists are - and it shouldn't be for established performers."
Make your mind up (see last point)! The contest requires a new SONG, but any artist is allowed to perform it, whether it's Adele or Colin from the Nag's Head in Wolverhampton, if they are approached by the national broadcaster and are willing.

"It's a huge waste of OUR money - it's time for us to stop participating and the BBC should save the cash." Do you understand that being a member of the EBU costs a lot and is about far, far more than just the ESC? That said, do you realise that a great many people DO like the ESC - and that they pay their licence fee just like you do - and that many of them will have no interest in things that you consider top-drawer essential events - and that the BBC is meant to represent everybody's interests and not just yours - and that, if they don't spend it on this programming, they'll only spend it on different programming that you may hate even more, not on ushering in world peace or ending famine?

"I fully understand that the music is just one part of it; a major driving force of the ESC is and has always been to cement friendly relations with other countries and to develop, advance and spread high-tech new groundbreaking filming and broadcasting capabilities which open up a great many wonderful new applications and possibilities throughout the world for the benefit of humanity."
Actually, scrap that one... for some reason, I've never heard any of the moaning nay-sayer 'experts' complain about - or even pay the slightest nod to that issue.

I have no interest whatsoever in football. I gather there were some big matches on yesterday from what I overheard and seeing the TV listings; but I instantly thought "not for me, thanks" and ignored them. What I didn't do was to tell everybody IRL and online why I hate it at length, and why I think it's all rubbish - giving them the 'benefit' of my amazing knowledge and insight as an outsider that I'm sure will never have occurred to them - and thus why it's a waste of everybody's time, and the TV companies shouldn't spend all that money to show it, and we should just pull out of it and stop engaging and nobody should watch it anymore.

Soaps, sport, cookery shows, Love Island, Traitors, Strictly, I'm A Celebrity etc. etc. None of these hold any interest for me at all... so I don't watch, engage or discuss them at length and tell the millions of people who do like them why they are wrong to do so. Instead, I focus on things that DO interest me and bring me joy. The government is never going to make watching specific entertainment shows on TV compulsory.

82 years' worth of content is uploaded to YouTube alone every single day - just one website, without taking into account the rest of TV, streaming and thousands and thousands of other hobbies and activities that are out there, many of them free and accessible with just a few clicks. If you can't find anything of interest to watch or do and, instead, choose to pick out, watch and complain about something that you absolutely don't like, that doesn't make you come across as all that bright.

Sorry for the extended rant... but it's every single year, predictable as clockwork. Whatever could motivate them? Why do people actively seek out optional things that they know they will hate and then be surprised to find that they hate them, and pontificate as though they personally are the supreme oracle of all knowledge about the subject?!

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ExtraOnions · 17/05/2026 11:27

I watch it because it’s terrible, and campy, and kitschy, and funny, and ridiculous. I have a party ever year, and it’s such a good night. We never get the winner right, we know the UK isn’t going to win, we know all of it. It’s one of the biggest TV audiences for the year, with huge Social Media traction.

I also love the football … one thing I can’t stand is Rugby Union, they seem to have a tournament that goes on for months, with the same half dozen teams playing each other over and over .. often with very little action… but lots of people like it, so see why they Broadcast it, and I watch something else

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:27

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:26

Why would putting it into different formats mean it’s AI?? Have you not used a laptop? Its not exactly an effort!

thanks for your comment. Yes I have used a laptop. Have you ever seen AI generated text?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:26

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:24

So you googled the stats on how much is uploaded to YouTube. You can hand on heart say you wrote this all yourself and put it into different formats, italics etc

Why would putting it into different formats mean it’s AI?? Have you not used a laptop? Its not exactly an effort!

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:26

Bundleflower · 17/05/2026 11:23

Yeah, I know.

All of your posts read as AI.

Apparently not, we just don’t like the style of writing apparently

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:26

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:22

I mean hating people being so negative about it - you clearly love that too.

So is there nothing that you like that you find tedious when people with no interest and very little knowledge of keep trying to 'educate' you by trotting out the same old facile arguments all the time as to why you are wrong to like it?

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TipsyLaird · 17/05/2026 11:25

I missed the law passed that it was compulsory to watch and engage with it. There are other channels available.

Some people just like to moan and think those point that are made every year make them sound clever.

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:25

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:23

That's another thing that's getting tedious on MN: so many people suggesting that people must have used AI, just because they have a different writing style from you or one that you personally don't like.

I didn’t say if I liked it or not, I just said I don’t think you did it all without any AI refinery

InterestingDuck · 17/05/2026 11:24

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:20

I think AI helped the op a bit

Copilot and Gemini think Eurovision is 'a masterclass in global entertainment' having just asked them😆

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:24

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:23

That's another thing that's getting tedious on MN: so many people suggesting that people must have used AI, just because they have a different writing style from you or one that you personally don't like.

So you googled the stats on how much is uploaded to YouTube. You can hand on heart say you wrote this all yourself and put it into different formats, italics etc

GreenWheat · 17/05/2026 11:24

I think the trouble is that Eurovision has really ramped up the sexuality and politics in recent years. It used to be fun, quirky and inclusive but now it's a lot more vocal about a lot of emotive topics.

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:24

travailtotravel · 17/05/2026 10:55

I love Eurovision. The glitter, the nonsense, the feeling united for a change. I have Opinions about Israel being allowed to take part and nearly winning ... but ... my sequins shimmied.

can you say that?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:23

stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:20

I think AI helped the op a bit

That's another thing that's getting tedious on MN: so many people suggesting that people must have used AI, just because they have a different writing style from you or one that you personally don't like.

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Bundleflower · 17/05/2026 11:23

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:20

Congratulations*, you've just demonstrated my point perfectly!

*no reference intended.

Yeah, I know.

All of your posts read as AI.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:22

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:21

I don't hate it at all - I love it.

I mean hating people being so negative about it - you clearly love that too.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:21

ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:13

You can’t hate it that much if you’ve spent time creating that very lengthy moaning OP drawing attention to it.

I don't hate it at all - I love it.

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stillhiding1990 · 17/05/2026 11:20

LoopyLooooo · 17/05/2026 10:57

Christ, that's a fuck tonne of typing over a song competition! 😁

Ultimately people will always have their own opinions and be entitled to them.

I very occasionally hear/read a couple of the comments you refer to, but they hardly register with me.

I suppose if you're as into it as you seem to be, you'll be taking a lot more notice.

I think AI helped the op a bit

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:20

Bundleflower · 17/05/2026 11:04

How can you feel so passionately to type out alllllll that about something which is, factually, rubbish?

Congratulations*, you've just demonstrated my point perfectly!

*no reference intended.

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InterestingDuck · 17/05/2026 11:18

This is my favourite Eurovision performance. The UK came second with it in 1977. We were hosting following Brotherhood of Man's win in 1976. The sheer joyfulness of it, Ronnie Hazelhurst joining in by conducting in his bowler hat, is wonderful. It's a great antidote to the modern overblown sets, flashing lights and skimpy costumes.

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:17

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 17/05/2026 10:53

Mind you, as a football fan I get a huge amount of people who spit venom at the idea of people enjoying watching football.

That's just as ridiculous. It's crazy that some people can't understand that different people like different things - and that nobody is being forced to watch something that doesn't interest them.

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 17/05/2026 11:15

TotalBaloney · 17/05/2026 10:46

You are very invested in Eurovision!

Indeed - I'm a massive fan.

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 17/05/2026 11:13

You can’t hate it that much if you’ve spent time creating that very lengthy moaning OP drawing attention to it.

thetruthshallsetyoufreebutfirstitwillpissyouoff · 17/05/2026 11:12

I agree OP, I personally don't have any interest in eurovision, so I just.... don't watch it. No moaning required! Does piss me off a bit that no one votes for us even though we fund a lot of it 😆

PiggyPlumPie · 17/05/2026 11:08

I've not watched for the last few years after it being a fixture not to be missed for many many years.

The only reason is that the voting goes on far too long and I can't stay awake long enough!

Bundleflower · 17/05/2026 11:04

How can you feel so passionately to type out alllllll that about something which is, factually, rubbish?

Shocke · 17/05/2026 11:03

topcat2014 · 17/05/2026 10:59

It's really sweet that Malta always votes for UK. I enjoyed watching our guy on TikTok etc. Shame he only got the one point

You didn’t watch it then?😂😂😂

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