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To think that "97% of women can breastfeed" is a load of crap

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elliejjtiny · 16/05/2026 12:53

I've been seeing this phrase a lot over the years, about how 97% of women can breastfeed and all the rest of the people who say they can't just need support.

I would guess that 97% of women can probably produce milk (although I wouldn't be surprised if it was lower) but there is so much more to breastfeeding than the mum producing milk which never seem to be mentioned. Mums with disabilities/medical conditions, babies with disabilities/medical conditions, babies who are born prematurely, mums separated from their babies and mums on medication that means they can't breastfeed.

When people gaily spout that 97% of women can breastfeed I find is so annoying and inaccurate. It's usually the same people who want the number of c-sections reduced as well and think that everyone can give birth with no interventions, they just need to stay mobile and ignore the nasty doctors.

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Leftittothelastminute · 16/05/2026 14:26

I went into shock due to blood loss when I gave birth to my daughter and did not produce any milk at all because of this, not a drop. Several hours after I had her the midwife checked her levels and said she needed milk immediately and it has to be formula.
Once I had been moved out of HDU to a normal ward the lady next to me was getting a lecture about how she would be failing her baby if she didn’t breast feed….. my midwife went mad at her!!

BrownBookshelf · 16/05/2026 14:25

If you are in this camp, it might be really exhausting trying to feed almost hourly in that first 6 months where breastmilk is the babies only source of food. Its probably not going to work without you co-sleeping and having a lot of family support. In the past or in a traditional close knit community where a woman's mum/aunties are on hand to help with cooking & caring for other DC might probably be ok. In a modern set up, less so.

And perhaps another lactating woman with greater storage capacity helping you out with a few bigger feeds here and there so you can get more of a bloc of rest. That's probably happened a fair bit over the course of our history.

Cailin66 · 16/05/2026 14:24

Perfect28 · 16/05/2026 13:17

I pumped for 5 days post partum whilst he was in icu to ensure I could breastfeed. Doctors said it was incredibly rare that a NICU baby receives 100% breastmilk. If you want to and you are supported, in the majority of cases it will be possible.

My first baby with into NICU, because I could not get there the first night they fed the baby from a cup as they knew I wanted to breastfeed. I'll be forever grateful to the nurse who did this for me, a stranger. I donated breast milk to the other babies. The main consultant demonstrated to a student doctor the strength of my baby before we left 10 days later because of the power of breast feeding.

The teaching hospital had a whole support system in place to encourage and help women breast feed. They had another who came to teach me how to wash the baby and how to change a nappy etc. It is not the UK or Ireland as I live on the continent. In my experience, UK & Irish women are the least likely to breastfeed. And in my experience of Mumsnet you cannot have a reasonable discussion on breast v bottle.

Hallamule · 16/05/2026 14:23

I think 97% is about right tbh. Until very recently (in evolutionary terms) there was a huge selective pressure to be able to feed your baby and the genes of those that couldn't tended to disappear.

These days, just because you can doesn't mean you should have to as a suitable alternative exists.

Emilesgran · 16/05/2026 14:23

elliejjtiny · 16/05/2026 12:53

I've been seeing this phrase a lot over the years, about how 97% of women can breastfeed and all the rest of the people who say they can't just need support.

I would guess that 97% of women can probably produce milk (although I wouldn't be surprised if it was lower) but there is so much more to breastfeeding than the mum producing milk which never seem to be mentioned. Mums with disabilities/medical conditions, babies with disabilities/medical conditions, babies who are born prematurely, mums separated from their babies and mums on medication that means they can't breastfeed.

When people gaily spout that 97% of women can breastfeed I find is so annoying and inaccurate. It's usually the same people who want the number of c-sections reduced as well and think that everyone can give birth with no interventions, they just need to stay mobile and ignore the nasty doctors.

My breastfeeding days are long over, but I only recently learned something that explained so much to me, which is that humans are different from many mammals in that feeding needs to be learned, both by the mother and the baby. Unlike puppies and kittens, human babies don't really know how to do it, or at least not effectively. And that's why many women fail: if nobody teaches the mother how to do it, she may well not manage by herself. It's a skill, not instinct.

So what often happens is that women are no longer surrounded by other experienced women who have already breast fed, so it's like asking someone to just know how to ride a bike while also telling her she's a useless mother if she falls off. No wonder women fail.

(I was very lucky, because the woman in the bed next to me helped me for my first. If she hadn't, I don't think the help I got from the maternity would have been much use. Once you can do it, it's generally much easier for subsequent babies.)

ToffeeCrabApple · 16/05/2026 14:23

. Mums with disabilities/medical conditions, babies with disabilities/medical conditions, babies who are born prematurely, mums separated from their babies and mums on medication that means they can't breastfeed.

Dd was prem & in hospital so we were separated. I still managed to breastfeed.

I think the bit most people struggle with isn't milk supply, or the stuff above.

Its milk storage capacity and imho its the bit not talked about enough. For some people, they absolutely can produce "enough milk", but their breast storage capacity is small, so their baby is going to want to feed very regularly. This is often confused for poor milk supply when in fact its more that there simply isn't as much in one go.

If you are in this camp, it might be really exhausting trying to feed almost hourly in that first 6 months where breastmilk is the babies only source of food. Its probably not going to work without you co-sleeping and having a lot of family support. In the past or in a traditional close knit community where a woman's mum/aunties are on hand to help with cooking & caring for other DC might probably be ok. In a modern set up, less so.

If you are really well informed about this and determined, you might soldier through knowing its likely to get easier when baby starts solids and breastmilk gradually shifts to being more about immunity & comfort than the sole source of nutrition.

Then the other thing I wish lactation consultants were more honest about. Your breastmilk supply regulates in the first 3 months or so. After this, for many women its well nigh impossible to materially increase from the level it regulates to. If it drops a bit at some point because baby is ill and feeds less, you can get it back up to that regulated level, but its much harder without medication to recover to a much higher level than you ever had. So if you got off to a rough start and maybe had a tiny prem baby, or mixed fed or did bottles at night, and your supply settles at a lower level, after 3 or 4 months its incredibly hard to significantly increase it, even if you power pump, feed the baby loads.

Also often the way you "increase" the supply is feeding the baby the same volume but more often, whereas what most people want is for the baby to take a bigger feed and then last a couple of hours.

user293948849167 · 16/05/2026 14:22

A lot of those factors like disability/poorly baby don’t “count” in that figure though - it’s saying 97% of women are physiologically able to breastfeed, circumstances may mean they can’t or choose not to but it doesn’t mean they are incapable of producing enough milk to sustain a baby, especially with good support

Besafeeatcake · 16/05/2026 14:21

Crew20 · 16/05/2026 14:13

Of course most women can breastfeed otherwise the human race would have died out.

OP you need to take less notice of stupid remarks from doctors. I once had a paediatrician tell me that the reason my baby (in hospital for sepsis) had diarrhoea was because I was over (breast)feeding him. Absolute rubbish.

Well that’s a medical degree awarded that needs reconsidering!

BrownBookshelf · 16/05/2026 14:20

Partly because more up to date research shows links between conditions like PCOS and breastfeeding difficulties, so it's also possible that if we go way back, mothers who would have struggled to breastfeed might also have struggled to conceive. Plus, there are environmental factors - various sources of hormone disruption - that would not have existed thousands of years ago.

This is an interesting point. We know that there are mother/baby dyads now that would never have existed until pretty recently. Populations in an industrial, medically advanced society aren't going to be the same as those in hunter gatherer or earlier agrarian ones.

ThxForTheFish · 16/05/2026 14:19

Perfect28 · 16/05/2026 13:17

I pumped for 5 days post partum whilst he was in icu to ensure I could breastfeed. Doctors said it was incredibly rare that a NICU baby receives 100% breastmilk. If you want to and you are supported, in the majority of cases it will be possible.

Honestly? This type of comment is hurtful. It does suggest that there’s not enough effort being made by non-breastfeeding mothers. I breastfed my infant son. Had loads of support. He lost a dangerous amount of weight and I was told to give him formula. Supplemented his formula by pumping. Was sitting on the pump for hours and would end up with c.30ml of milk.
technically I could breast feed. However, no one will now convince me that fed is best is anything other than right.

S3mple · 16/05/2026 14:19

Besafeeatcake · 16/05/2026 14:18

Is it? My experience (so anecdotal) for my children was quick acceptance for giving up breastfeeding quickly and perfectly fine to move onto formula too easily. Non demonising of formula that I saw. Mixed feeding needs more discussion - totally agree.

The scaremongering is hugely prevalent and the prevailing either or stance is ridiculous.

Besafeeatcake · 16/05/2026 14:18

S3mple · 16/05/2026 14:14

Yep and the demonising of formula, scaremongering and refusal to say mixed feeding is absolutely ok is a massive part of the culture .

Is it? My experience (so anecdotal) for my children was quick acceptance for giving up breastfeeding quickly and perfectly fine to move onto formula too easily. Non demonising of formula that I saw. Mixed feeding needs more discussion - totally agree.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/05/2026 14:18

In many countries, 97% of women do breastfeed, so unless you think British breasts are inferior, it's correct.

Unfortunately, a large proportion of women get false information and inadequate support.

It's not something that people generally go into detail with but I know two women who "couldn't" breastfeed.

One was incorrectly told that her anti-depressant medication wasn't compatible with breastfeeding.

The other started giving formula almost immediately because the baby was "too hungry" (despite gaining weight and having plenty of wet/dirty nappies) and her supply quickly tanked. It's probably more accurate to say that she physically could breastfeed but wasn't prepared for the reality of having a newborn attached to her for large portions of the day and night, and had been led to believe that frequent feeding indicated he wasn't getting enough milk.

TwiceTwoDouble · 16/05/2026 14:17

TheIceBear · 16/05/2026 14:08

That’s great you were DETERMINED . But I’ve seen women who were also determined and their babies ended up being admitted to hospital with failure to thrive because they were producing so little milk. These poor women were absolutely heartbroken and had tried so hard to exclusively breastfeed . They were in tears when the consultant suggested giving formula .

I’m not sure of your point?

My point was that I really wanted to breastfeed and the support wasn’t there to help me.

Even being so determined if it hadn’t been for the help of a very kind Mum at twins club (a complete stranger) I would have ended up formula feeding at least one of my babies.

ChelseaBagger · 16/05/2026 14:16

I think they probably mean "could physically breastfeed even it were significantly detrimental to the mother's (or the baby's) health", but it's just so irrelevant. There are many, many ways in which we no longer live like cave people.

100% of people used to cope without cars, without painkillers, without supermarket food etc etc, so presumably 97%+ of us still could. But we're lucky enough to have the choice. (and of course nothing like 100% of people survived without medical intervention)

DinosandCarsAllDay · 16/05/2026 14:16

I think it's a helpful stat to remember for mums and health professionals. I personally know a lot of women who gave up breastfeeding citing low milk supply and were sad about it. The reality is that they didn't get the right support. It's a skill, something both you and baby need to master. It's foolish to think you can just birth a baby and put them on the boob, it's not usually that easy. Equally, very irresponsible of a midwife to not learn about it and help women.

So in my view, knowing that statistic should be a prompt to seek help before giving up before you are ready to do so.

If you want to formula feed, go ahead. But if you want to breastfeed, you need all the facts and some help.

The midwives in hospital knew absolutely nothing about breastfeeding and kept pushing formula on me (presumably because then their job would have been easier caring for me after a complicated c section). I had done a lot of research about BF, had expressed colostrum and paid for a private lactation consultant to come see me in hospital, otherwise I would never have managed.

BreatheAndFocus · 16/05/2026 14:15

elliejjtiny · 16/05/2026 12:53

I've been seeing this phrase a lot over the years, about how 97% of women can breastfeed and all the rest of the people who say they can't just need support.

I would guess that 97% of women can probably produce milk (although I wouldn't be surprised if it was lower) but there is so much more to breastfeeding than the mum producing milk which never seem to be mentioned. Mums with disabilities/medical conditions, babies with disabilities/medical conditions, babies who are born prematurely, mums separated from their babies and mums on medication that means they can't breastfeed.

When people gaily spout that 97% of women can breastfeed I find is so annoying and inaccurate. It's usually the same people who want the number of c-sections reduced as well and think that everyone can give birth with no interventions, they just need to stay mobile and ignore the nasty doctors.

YABU. You completely misunderstand the point it’s making, and you’ve completely underestimated the pressure on women NOT to breastfeed. A lot of this pressure is very subtle and, shockingly, it’s from other women. You’ll see it all over Mumsnet and IRL.

The point of the saying, which is the opposite way round from what you’ve said - ie only 3% of women can’t physically breastfeed - is to reassure women that’s there’s no dark art involved, no exclusivity, no arcane skills, no special body type, no special breast size needed, and that the majority of women can breastfeed if they choose to and the situation and circumstances allow them to.

That’s all.

S3mple · 16/05/2026 14:14

Besafeeatcake · 16/05/2026 14:09

Can’t vs won’t = two very different things.

Many women CAN but don’t want to (for whatever reason). Let’s not conflate the two.

The stat of 97% of women CAN is accurate. Those that don’t want to or won’t in the UK is about the highest in the world (very old studies but can’t see how things will have significantly moved on - although breastfeeding percentages increased during Covid). Women in the UK aren’t physiologically different nor are their children to the rest of the world so it isn’t about CAN but more about WON’T.

There is a cultural attitude to breastfeeding in the UK which is very different to a lot of counties.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong it’s just what it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35438049#:~:text=Rates%20of%20breastfeeding%20in%20the,Brazil%20and%2099%25%20in%20Senegal

https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/research/international-comparisons-of-health-and-wellbeing-in-early-childhood#toc-header-3

Yep and the demonising of formula, scaremongering and refusal to say mixed feeding is absolutely ok is a massive part of the culture .

Crew20 · 16/05/2026 14:13

Of course most women can breastfeed otherwise the human race would have died out.

OP you need to take less notice of stupid remarks from doctors. I once had a paediatrician tell me that the reason my baby (in hospital for sepsis) had diarrhoea was because I was over (breast)feeding him. Absolute rubbish.

BertieBotts · 16/05/2026 14:13

It's obviously not true in our current context because around 80% of women start off breastfeeding, and of those, around a third experience no problems, a third experience problems but are able to overcome them (with or without support) and continue breastfeeding until a time they wanted to stop, and a third are not able to overcome them, and stop before they had wished to. It's that last third that the big question mark hangs over. (Some of the 20% who don't start BF at all will be second+ time mums who fitted into this last third previously and, fairly, want to spare themselves the pain.)

I don't think I have ever come across a single person (that I didn't think was trolling) who thinks that this third "did not try hard enough" or that the issue is effort or willpower related.

It's likely that some portion of this group have physical, hormonal, biological issues that no amount of support could mitigate. The 97% figure suggests this is only 3% though, rather than the ~33% accounted for by statistics.

Is 3% accurate? I think it's more complicated than that. Certainly 3% as a minimum isn't unbelievable, because evolution isn't some super-optimised thing and nature does include errors. I think it's a bit low personally. I think it's more likely that the figure of women who are always biologically going to struggle to produce milk is probably closer to 10%, partly because in a survival sense, having 90% of women able to produce milk means there would always be a nursing mother around even if it was not the baby's biological mother, and partly because more up to date research shows links between conditions like PCOS and breastfeeding difficulties, so it's also possible that if we go way back, mothers who would have struggled to breastfeed might also have struggled to conceive. Plus, there are environmental factors - various sources of hormone disruption - that would not have existed thousands of years ago.

But I do think the number who have a biological/medical reason to have difficulties breastfeeding is lower than the number of women who do experience insurmountable difficulties breastfeeding, and that's because I think our culture subtly undermines breastfeeding success a lot of the time and places barriers in the way of a breastfeeding relationship developing well. It's not necessarily overt and it's not necessarily malicious in any way.

I also think the middle third (who experience problems but overcome them) are likely to be increased by these cultural barriers.

When I say cultural barriers I mean things like this. Most new mothers have never seen any baby being breastfed, or have only seen it briefly, or many years ago, because we have fewer babies, we spend less time around babies in general, babies are less often breastfed and for less long, and it is seen as something taboo or embarrassing so it is polite to look away. When you see something frequently then you unconsciously pick up knowledge about what is normal and how to do it.

For example, when I went to work in a shop as a teenager, I automatically adopted the same way I had heard other shop assistants say things like "Would you like a bag?" "Here's your change. Have a nice day." "That's £3.72 please." When I first drove a car, although I needed lessons to really understand what to do, I had a basic understanding that I would need to turn the wheel to steer, to press the pedals with my feet, to change gear, to indicate, etc. It actually felt a lot more natural than I was expecting it to. I know what traffic light signals mean, even if I have to learn the exact meaning of the amber light for example. If I was to go and train as a train driver, I would probably need much more initial training on how to use the basic controls, because I have not spent a significant amount of time sitting next to a train driver observing them. I would have to study the signals to remember which signal means what because I have not already got any preexisting knowledge about train signals.

The same thing happens with anything we learn, including breastfeeding. In fact though, the thing we tend to have experience of is bottle feeding. We might even have bottle fed a baby before we have our own, and a lot of this observed knowledge tends to intrude when we try to breastfeed. For example, with a bottle you can look at the markings on the side to understand how much the baby has drunk and therefore whether you ought to try to convince them to take a little bit more or whether you are happy that they have had enough. Knowing how much they have drunk leads you to make assumptions about how often it should be before they are fed again. This feels like obviously important information and so the absence of it with breastfeeding can feel quite worrying. But in reality you don't need to know this at all, because babies (just like humans of any age) don't necessarily eat exactly the same measured amounts at every meal or even every day. The way that bottle feeding works means that it helps to be able to predict how much the baby will want to drink and when, so you don't waste formula. A bottle also has a set amount in it which when it is done, it is done. And then it takes time or effort to refill. But breastfeeding doesn't work this way. Essentially you have an unlimited supply of milk (not really, but in terms of the amount a small baby will drink) and it doesn't matter how frequently they feed, they can usually get more if they need it because your body just makes more on demand. The best way to increase milk supply is to feed more, because that will send a feedback message to your hormones to increase speed of production. But if you're unconsciously making an assumption that the breast is like a bottle which has a set amount and then needs time to refill, that can cause you to behave in a way which doesn't send those messages to the body and the body continues producing milk at the slower rate, or even cause milk to pool in the milk ducts, which is a backup system to account for excess supply, which is common after growth spurts or early on in breastfeeding when your supply is hormonally driven because your body doesn't know if you had twins or not. Actually if you're thinking about bottles, then you might even feel like you should be waiting for this time when your breasts feel "full", which is counterproductive as too much of this milk pooling sends the opposite message (slow down production/conserve energy).

I couldn't go into every possible way which bottle feeding as a norm or unfamiliarity with breastfeeding causes problems because it will be too long, but essentially if you look at any Attachment Parenting stuff (the older stuff like Sears, not the insane modern stuff like Komisar) which emphasises maximising close contact between the baby and breastfeeding mother, unrestricted access to the breast particularly during sleep, lots of skin to skin or other close body contact, all of this is great for increasing success of breastfeeding and our society is not at all set up for most of it, as well as delivering messages suggesting that "feeds" are a set, discrete thing which happen X times a day and it would be beneficial to measure them. Many practices which are actively normal or encouraged or even a genuinely good thing do work against breastfeeding as well. And there will be areas where success of BF is directly in competition with other things (such as SIDS prevention for example). So it's not simple at all. And lack of access to good, knowledgable, experienced BF support is an issue.

I would highly recommend The Politics of Breastfeeding as an interesting read on the topic.

Dillydollydingdong · 16/05/2026 14:10

I would have liked to be able to breastfeed, but I didn't produce a lot of milk and it dried up quickly.

Therescathairinmybath · 16/05/2026 14:10

Despite my best efforts,I’m still waiting for my milk to come in 30+ years later!😊

Besafeeatcake · 16/05/2026 14:09

Can’t vs won’t = two very different things.

Many women CAN but don’t want to (for whatever reason). Let’s not conflate the two.

The stat of 97% of women CAN is accurate. Those that don’t want to or won’t in the UK is about the highest in the world (very old studies but can’t see how things will have significantly moved on - although breastfeeding percentages increased during Covid). Women in the UK aren’t physiologically different nor are their children to the rest of the world so it isn’t about CAN but more about WON’T.

There is a cultural attitude to breastfeeding in the UK which is very different to a lot of counties.

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong it’s just what it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35438049#:~:text=Rates%20of%20breastfeeding%20in%20the,Brazil%20and%2099%25%20in%20Senegal

https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/research/international-comparisons-of-health-and-wellbeing-in-early-childhood#toc-header-3

Breastfeeding

UK 'world's worst' at breastfeeding

Rates of breastfeeding in the UK are the lowest in the world, an international study shows.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35438049#:~:text=Rates%20of%20breastfeeding%20in%20the,Brazil%20and%2099%25%20in%20Senegal

feellikeanalien · 16/05/2026 14:08

Happymchappyface · 16/05/2026 13:19

Sad that those doctors said that as NICU babies are the ones who really should be having breastmilk either from their mum or donated.

DD was not born in the UK. She was in NICU for three months. I was still recovering from a major op as a result of birth complications. Basically I was given a breastfeeding pump and told to get on with it. I was devastated at the small amount I produced and felt I was failing DD. She couldn't breastfeed as she was on a ventilator.

One of the other mums was so kind and said that because of stress as a result of DD being in NICU and incredibly premature it was hardly surprising that I wasn't able.to produce enough. I had no support from the medical staff although I can't fault their care of DD.

I think that lack of support is a major reason why many women who could breastfeed either stop fairly early on or dont start at all.

TheIceBear · 16/05/2026 14:08

TwiceTwoDouble · 16/05/2026 14:01

I called the La Leche league. Nearest support person was an hour away and they didn’t have anyone to send me. I’m sure they are great if you can access them.

My nearest city had a breastfeeding group, in a church up a steep flight of stairs I couldn’t carry two babies up post c - section.

My midwifes and health visitors were no help.

I fed my babies because my Mum fed all of us, my sister fed her babies and I was DETERMINED to.

It was sore.
It was difficult
One baby latched with no bother at all, but the other found it hard immediately post birth.

Breastfeeding is a skill

Like all skills some people (both Mums and babies!) are better at it than others.

Like all skills having a great teacher and practice means you get better at it.

Women should have choices, including the choice to use formula. But choice should include support.

Edited

That’s great you were DETERMINED . But I’ve seen women who were also determined and their babies ended up being admitted to hospital with failure to thrive because they were producing so little milk. These poor women were absolutely heartbroken and had tried so hard to exclusively breastfeed . They were in tears when the consultant suggested giving formula .

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