Stacey Soloman rant that actually just shows what's wrong with the world

How will he ever learn to overcome these issues if he's spending all his time tucked away in his bedrooom alone? Is that really what you want for him for the rest of his life?

They aren't either or though?
Not everyone works 40-60 hours a week, or has a long commute.
My point was that you might be spending a lot of time and effort making content...for not many followers or no money . Not everyone who wants that lifestyle or income will be either good or successful. Thats a hobby and its fine but you'd still need to do something potentially boring to pay your bills!

There are numerous talentless influencers - family ones in particular.

It might take some work but it doesn't mean they're talented, they just joined Youtube at the right time.

8 passengers is a great example and has led to the exposure of child abuse in the domain.

The most famous family vloggers in the UK are also the most controversial, Inghams, Sullivans etc.

No discernable talent, just exploiting their children for cash and joined Youtube at the right time.

And the ones that the smaller channels complain about but also aspire to 'they're doing the same as we do but making ££££'

There is a LOT of money in child exploitation on Youtube and Tiktok and Stacey et al are part of it.

Maybe so, it doesn’t make her disgusting though like the other poster called her

I admired Jemma as a peads nurse who then went on to build a successful business with 'the label lady'. I can't help but feel it's a little sad that she shut down her company to be an influencer. However, I can understand why she made the choice. I think many of us would be tempted if we had the carrot dangled infront of us. Why slog away running a business when she's being handed these opportunites and is privy to the wealth her sister has accumulated from it? In saying that it wouldn't be for me, the whole influencer thing seems so disingenuous and I wouldn't feel good about myself doing it.

Being Stacey’s sister would give her access points and an understanding of the industry just as anyone else benefits from a family member in their target business. However if you think influencers and content creators are talentless because it looks easy that suggests you know nothing about the industry or the work involved.

If you saw Osipova tripping across the stage effortlessly would you think it ridiculous that she is highly paid for something so easy? Or do you bear in mind the punishing hours of training, practice and prep which goes into that brief, effortless performance?

Content creators spend huge amounts of time prepping, planning, shooting, editing, marketing etc investing in their own kit and paying for their own airtime/slots to get started. The hours are very antisocial for many content creators and its fiercely competitive. There is no safety net, no nice public sector benefits and gold plated pension. If they don’t get the numbers they don’t get paid.

For every Madonna and Pele there are tens of thousands of wedding/pub/cruise singers and part time footballers who barely scrape a living and then age out rapidly and need a second career.

The successes you dismiss are the 0.1%. There is a second tier who earn a living but not much more. The majority don’t cover their costs. It may not be your choice of entertainment but that doesn’t make it any less skilled than other areas of entertainment.

Equally, you could say it's soul destroying to sell useless tat to people online who don't need it and can't afford it?

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You think this is “equally soul destroying” as waking up at 6am every day, commuting in rush hour, spending 40-60 hours a week looking at a screen, working on something that you could not be less passionate about, having unreasonable deadlines, dealing with diabolical people, whether bosses or clients, etc etc (I really could go on and on here)?

Give me rearranging furniture and applying make up and autonomy over my time any day.

The ONLY thing keeping me in the former instead of chasing something along the lines of the latter is the money. I’m 15 years in now and earning very well. I’m trapped. These careers are specifically designed this way.

My friends daughter was only 18 and had a great office job in London that she absolutely loved but she was always really in to make up, skincare ect and started to use TikTok to do tutorials. She started making a bit of money then I was round my friends and her daughter turned up in a brand new BMW and had had a boob job. Turns out now she’s raking it in on Only Fans

Exactly. It's good compared to average. It may be 'crap' compared to successful content creators, but probably not compared to less successful ones who do it as side hustles or hobbies.

But the pay isn't crap!

Sadly not, I'm an unemployed woman in my forties in the north who has never met her. I can't prove this but, well, I don't know what else to say other than my opinion about her lol. You don't have to believe it. Tbf I would love to have her motivation and friendliness, so I'll take it as a compliment 👍

Hi, Stacey..

Also, naysayers, is the irony not lost on you that Mumsnet and your posting here is just as parasocial as following influencers or watching their videos etc?

This site is used as a fertile ground to mould algorithms and extract information from all of us posting here. You're deluded if you think you are above being influenced, or above this parasocial sphere. You're right here, it's two arms on the same torso 😘

@LoyalMember You're very wrong.

She's a successful businesswoman, multi millionaire, a former teen mum who has achieved a lot using her own mind and her own hard graft. It seems to me that she steers every single choice she makes towards teaching her kids about what really matters- family, learning, grabbing opportunity, effort, and perseverance. And remarkably nowadays, she doesn't seem to have shit on anyone on her ascension. I don't think she fakes how she feels on things like Sort Your Life Out, she seems very switched on and aware of people's issues without judgement. A breath of fresh air compared to all the sensationalist exploitative bullshit in other programmes.

She's also managed this whilst being a mother to (I think five?) kids. So your misogynistic tired view about her being unintelligent just doesn't wash.

She bought their house, and it appears that she doesn't rely on her husband financially. So... Actually, she's ticking all the boxes of what we are "supposed" to do as women... Earn and achieve success equal or greater than a man's, and also be a good mother and run a loving home, oh and stay fit and healthy and relatable. That takes emotional and practical intelligence.

I'd say she's fucking nailing it all TBF, I would definitely use her as a relatable example to show my kids how ordinary people can find options and go after them.

It's only crap pay when comparing it to influencers.

I work in the NHS and know quite a few nurses who have left for various well paid opportunities that fit in better with their families including influencers, aesthetics, dog walkers, child minders, and someone who is now an author and of course the ones that have moved to NZ & Australia as the pay and hours are better.

But that's why the pay is crap. The conditions and responsibility might feel easier to bear if people felt they were properly paid for it.

Good on her for making a better life for herself and her family.

We need to pay nurses more and give them more reasonable working conditions and hours.

I think it would equally soul destroying spending ages making my kitchen/room look photogenic, artfully arranging things , making myself look good, making a video .....and then getting 10 followers who are mostly friends and family...and not earning a bean....because I imagine that is the reality for a lot of hopefuls!

I find the whole influencer thing concerning, so many young adults/teens/ children see this as the career choice. The money they make for often doing nothing of any true value is frightening

Only just recently discovered the Austins. They are making a fortune from living in a dirty house - Nicole seems to half clean it and it gets dirty again and her Facebook and tik toks make her a lot of money

Brogan Tate is another odd one. She seems to spend her life on paid for holidays