Stacey Soloman rant that actually just shows what's wrong with the world

but now based on your point you could then make the case that influencers are the new marketers and the new version of edward berneys and that some people would then be influenced depending on what the influencer was promoting eg food, restrauants, holidays etc

No i absolutely do not think people with autism are stupid, nor do I think it's something people can overcome. However, does it mean his opportunities in life have to be so restricted? It's unrealistic to expect this young man will be able to spend the rest of his life avoiding anyone he doesn't know or situations that cause him any kind of distress. I hope he receives the support he needs to put some coping strategies in place.

Exactly, the public sector doesn't create wealth. There has to be a balance between the wealth creating business/private sector and the public services provided by the public sector. Too far one way or the other and you have big problems.

Whilst I think this influencer stuff has maybe got a bit crazy, I kind of don’t blame people for not wanting to live to work, there is way too much pressure in this country

Maybe that's the wrong expression i guess if hoped, or expected to make a decent living out of it and i was getting up every day spending a lot of time and effort, and not getting any new followers or earning any money then I'd find it quite demoralising....but maybe youre saying thats how people feel in conventional jobs (although they are getting paid)

But i guess a lot of people do have a job in a supermarket etc as well and just keep doing it in the hope theyre going to make it big

I suppose like with anything where someone is high profile or successful (acting, music, sport etc) we dont see or know all the people who started in the same way but didnt get there

You said it is “soul destroying”, now you’re saying it’s a hobby? The fact people still do it even when not earning much money or do it as a hobby proves that it’s not soul destroying. If it were truly soul destroying, people would just… not do it? And they would get a job in a supermarket or a call centre or whatever.

Indeed perhaps everyone should do only “worthwhile” jobs in the public sector. Paid for by...

That could be said for makers of CSAM or animal torture or whatever else we know makes huge amounts of money online

Yeah, equating domestic content creation to torture and abuse videos - now I know you are just being a GF as well as totally ignorant about the industry and the work which goes into content.

The content creation industry brings a sizeable tax take into the public purse for all those “essential” jobs. I find it interesting that its the women centred part of that industry that you are so keen to rubbish - perhaps you just have a problem with women starting their own businesses and earning their own money.

But the revenue generated by the entire sport/entertaining industries IS essential for the tax it generates, employment generated, money it brings into the economy, tourist industry, etc.

It's like the financial services industry, in theory not essential, but we'd be a bankrupt country without it.

Nail on the head. That person is far better being active and making money online rather than sitting in his room gaming all day and doing nothing productive. Not everyone has to be "social" and in a traditional workplace. As you rightly say, the internet has been a Godsend for those who aren't "typical" as they can do what they're comfortable with rather than being a square peg in a round hole otherwise.

And yes, those with autism (and other forms of ND) are often highly intelligent. I recall in a previous workplace we had an absolute genius of an in-house tax specialist who we literally never saw. He "hid" away in an attic office, never attended meetings, etc. The partners and managers would leave files/notes in his pigeon hole and he'd "do his stuff" and put the file back in the partner's/manager's pigeon hole a day or two later, with a highly technical report answering the question and a "crib sheet" for the partner/manager to hold the meeting with the client. He was definitely NT and probably autistic, and had "found his niche" within the firm who accommodated him to his preference as he was so good at his job. Today he'd probably be the kind who'd work from home in a garden office with work "Pinged" to/from him by email/online portal never seeing the light of day and never meeting clients nor staff.

Nothing wrong with it if that's what someone prefers and means they can have a fruitful working life. Far better than the NT types who try to force the ND and "introverted" people to be like them, causing lots of stress and anxiety.

First of all she is contributing more to society now because she is self employed and so collecting 20% of her earnings and giving it to HMRC, rather than taking money from the public purse.
I’m not saying that nurses do not work hard and it is a difficult job but as a society both are needed.
It is also a very precarious job as you can fall out of favour and it can be pretty sort lived.

my point was football is not essential for society even if they train etc as the post i was responding to is this

"Being an influencer is not really a job that is helping our society function the way we need it too. We need doctors, nurses, nursery workers, carers, bin men, teachers, etc"

so i added that footballers are also not necessary but yet people still aspire to them

Professional footballers playing at the top level have talent. They train five days a week if their club is full time. It's their job. I don't think that's the same as people choosing to monetise everything they do

but you could then say that about footballers, the whole tv and entertainment industry all of it is not essential for soceity

And as i've just replied to another poster.

That could be said for makers of CSAM or animal torture or whatever else we know makes huge amounts of money online.

The makers are putting in the hours. recognising what people want and successfully producing that content. Also a very competitive market.

Doesn't make it okay though does it? or make the makers skilled or talented at all or in identifying that want online?

It's not my thing as you say, and hopefully not yours but you seem to think identifying a want in the online market and producing content to feed that, is evidence of talent and skill?

If you don't think it applies to those creators then why not?

How is having multiple children and exploiting them online a talent or a skill?

People being willing to consume the content and the creators being able to make money from it isn't evidence of talent or skill. Otherwise we'd say CSAM makers are talented and skilled?

Shallow shit spouted by vacuous, talentless morons.

This is what i was trying to say earlier but you said it much better. This talentless thing annoys because most can't succeed so those that do have worked out what to provide so that is skilled in itself

Can you explain to me what talent for e.g the Radfords have?

Other than having numerous children and making money from it?

What talent are we talking about?

As the PP said in their post - confidence is boosted by the success. If he is running a YouTube channel there is likely to be a lot of interacting with followers, understanding what they want to see then creating that content and then marketing it to wider audiences (often by building relationships with other creators). If he does sponsorships that also requires interacting with other people and businesses.

Its an area which people like this 18 yr old often find can give them an outlet and a place to try out their business ideas. It may work, many don’t but if he is netting 3K per month he is running a successful business in this sector and the confidence built will help wider relationships, the track record of running a business will make him more employable elsewhere.

What's your problem with this?
Do you think that he can unlearn his autism? He can't.
Well done to him for finding a way around his issues and earning fairly good money out of it.

Oh and BTW, just because people are autistic it does not mean that they are stupid. Apologies if you don't mean that but that's how it comes across to me.
He may be exceptionally good at a particular subject and he shares his knowledge with others.

The Internet has been a godsend for some autistic people.

Yep my niece worked with young people with severe LD. Earnt a pittance. Now earns triple as a food content creator. No brainer for her, but yeah, something is very backwards.

Public sector staff are paid from the government purse. No one wants to pay tax, many or against increasing taxes for businesses or the very wealthy, so the money stays in the private sector, the big businesses make enough profit to pay influencers a lot of money. It's that simple really. Unless those who earn more are taxed more those doing jobs to serve the public like nursing, fire fighters, teachers etc will continue to be worse off.

Ok, so you plainly know nothing about the industry.

However talentless you perceive the person on screen to be, if they are making money out of it they are putting in the hours, recognising what people want and successfully producing that content whilst running a business.

Don’t confuse “crap which doesn’t interest me” with “talentless” because none of them would last five minutes in such a competitive market, where yesterday’s big thing is today’s chip paper unless they had staying power and the talents needed by the industry.

I find most reality shows tedious and unentertaining despite their audiences of millions. I don’t assume they are talentless programme makers I just accept its not my thing.