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AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 12:49

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Met call up armoured cars as London braces for a day of protests

In a package of measures billed as the toughest ever, 4,000 officers will be deployed to deal with the Tommy Robinson-led Unite the Kingdom rally and a pro-Palestine gathering to mark Nakba Day.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

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Bunnyofhope · 14/05/2026 16:11

DS was a reporter the last time these groups 'met' in London. He's white. His colleague was female black British. They moved between the two groups interviewing people. Obviously all anecdotes, but TR he said was an excellent public speaker. Laurence and the others on that side not so much but he was really surprised by TR. He and black colleague were both treated fine by that 'side'. That crowd shouted abuse such as Starmer is a wanker, and other football type chants. They pretty much did what the police asked.
The pro Palestine group although much fewer in number were really badly behaved. Knocked his female colleague to the ground. Chanted stuff that was downright illegal, called for particular buildings to be set alight etc. In the end they were largely kettled by the police and were absolutely furious about it.
Obviously it was all highly charged and a big waste of public money, but I know which group treated them and the police the best.

MissyB1 · 14/05/2026 16:11

nomas · 14/05/2026 14:47

At a time when Netanyahu is buying influencers to make pro-Israel posts on Instagram and Facebook, I don’t think we should be stopping the right for people to make peaceful protests.

Oh not just instagram and facebook I suspect…..

Hallamule · 14/05/2026 16:09

iamfedupwiththis · 14/05/2026 15:46

What about wanting Hamas to stop as well?
Why do we never see anti Hamas protests?

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Because the Israeli government is a government and therefore is somewhat susceptible to diplomatic pressure whilst Hamas are a bunch of terrorists who dont much care what the British government say? I mean, Im pretty sure Europe doesnt supply arms or share intelligence with Hamas but do correct me if Im mistaken.

BySharpSnake · 14/05/2026 16:08

nomas · 14/05/2026 16:02

It’s an American influencer explaining why she takes money from Netanyahu to make posts at his behest. Hardly a conspiracy.

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Alongside videos about how Israel are worse than Nazis.

Dweetfidilove · 14/05/2026 16:03

ColdAsAWitches · 14/05/2026 15:30

Please provide proof.
Proof is provided.
I'm not watching that!

FFS.

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Couldn't make it up 😂😂😂

nomas · 14/05/2026 16:03

Verv · 14/05/2026 15:48

At this point I'd take 10 Robinsons rather than the Pallywood brigade. Safer.

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That’s offensive. If you wouldn’t do it to Israelis, don’t do it to Palestinians.

nomas · 14/05/2026 16:02

BySharpSnake · 14/05/2026 15:59

So don't click them. Or try to derail them with bizarre antisemitic conspiracy theory youtube channels.

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It’s an American influencer explaining why she takes money from Netanyahu to make posts at his behest. Hardly a conspiracy.

EmeraldRoulette · 14/05/2026 16:00

OonaStubbs · 14/05/2026 15:55

Just kettle them in together and let them fight each other to the end.

Given the numbers that UTK had last time, I'm not sure that could be described as a fair fight.

I also think that saying TR is against multiculturalism is rather unfair but I don't think this is a hugely rational thread. Perhaps it depends on your definition of multiculturalism. As Kemi Badenoch has said, there is a big difference between being a multi ethnic society and being a multicultural society.

Although arguably also our multicultural society rubs along reasonably well. I think Tommy Robinson would probably agree with that statement? He has very specific concerns - or he did the last time UTK marched, I don't know if he has changed recently.

If we banned all marches on the basis of size then we are in dangerous territory.

anyway, the number of arrests relative to the number of attendees (according to Metropolitan police figures) was very low, and I really hope it goes all right this time.

BySharpSnake · 14/05/2026 15:59

nomas · 14/05/2026 15:21

https://youtube.com/shorts/jRqE1I_MDlM?si=gLdzlkDmrJOwy9ly

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So don't click them. Or try to derail them with bizarre antisemitic conspiracy theory youtube channels.

VoiceFromThePit · 14/05/2026 15:59

YABU

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:57

wanderlustdiaries · 14/05/2026 14:17

YABU. Pro-Palestine marches are against the Israeli government’s action and our support of that.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is trying to sow division in this nation to benefit Russia. Not the same at all.

Then why past UK Jewish synagogues? How does that protest the Israeli government actions? Is there really any need at all to cause problems for the local Jewish community who are not the Israeli government?

Again static protest away from UK Synagogues would helpp show they aren't 'intending' to increase hatred and fear.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-met-protesters-london-palestine-solidarity-campaign-b2676831.html

Police block pro-Palestine protest from gathering close to London synagogue

The Met said it had ‘reflected on the views of local community and business representatives’.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/police-met-protesters-london-palestine-solidarity-campaign-b2676831.html

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OonaStubbs · 14/05/2026 15:55

Just kettle them in together and let them fight each other to the end.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:51

iamfedupwiththis · 14/05/2026 15:46

What about wanting Hamas to stop as well?
Why do we never see anti Hamas protests?

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No idea. Some poor bloke was attacked when he attended a earlier march with a anti Hamas placard. You'd think he'd be welcome and they all want to see the back of Hamas?

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:48

Mingou · 14/05/2026 15:46

Pro Palestinian is not anti Semitic.

Never said it was. What is chanted on those marches calling for action in globalising the intifada is pretty hateful.

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Verv · 14/05/2026 15:48

At this point I'd take 10 Robinsons rather than the Pallywood brigade. Safer.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:47

Grumpie · 14/05/2026 15:45

All for an anti Hamas protest but do it in one place.

Indeed, how is that stopping protests.

The same with any TR protest, again, in one place and both protests away from each other so it can limited trouble makers from both protests to hurt each other/cause damage to property, cause fear for people going about their daily lives.

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Mingou · 14/05/2026 15:46

Pro Palestinian is not anti Semitic.

iamfedupwiththis · 14/05/2026 15:46

BigYellowBus · 14/05/2026 12:52

Wanting the Israeli army to stop killing children doesn't make you antisemitic. It's a view share by many Jews

What about wanting Hamas to stop as well?
Why do we never see anti Hamas protests?

noblegiraffe · 14/05/2026 15:46

Maybe the marchers could pay for the policing.

Grumpie · 14/05/2026 15:45

All for an anti Hamas protest but do it in one place.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:44

mumofoneAloneandwell · 14/05/2026 15:05

I mean - the people marching for Palestine are doing so to stop innocent people being killed by the Israeli government? The conditions there are heartbreaking for anyone to see, and have been for a long time.

Tommy Robinsons lot are wanting to stop multiculturalism in the UK

Yabu, they arent remotely the same.

I think you missed the bit about making them static so they don't bring fear to the Jewish community. Protest by all means, but why past unconnected Jewish people in the UK?

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 15:42

mumumental · 14/05/2026 13:46

God there are some silly threads on this website.

😂oh dear It's silly to not want £4.5 million spent on policing for 1 day. I'm silly to want the Jewish community to live fear free, without protests going past their homes and synagogues causing fear. It's silly because I think there is hatred on both the PP and TR marches.

Must have hit a nerve then. 🤔

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ColdAsAWitches · 14/05/2026 15:33

SunnyAfternoonToday · 14/05/2026 15:31

You really think that Youtube is proof of anything? Heaven help us all.

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You've dismissed it out of hand by refusing to watch it. It could be a public confession on the BBC youtube channel, but that won't matter to you. You've already lost the moral high ground by refusing to even consider you might be wrong.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 14/05/2026 15:31

ColdAsAWitches · 14/05/2026 15:30

Please provide proof.
Proof is provided.
I'm not watching that!

FFS.

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You really think that Youtube is proof of anything? Heaven help us all.