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Angela Rayner's tax affairs

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Ihateboris · 14/05/2026 08:10

I was a few days late submitting my Tax Return due to being in hospital last year and as result I was charged £100 late filing penalty.

AIBU to think that Angela Rayner should have to pay interest and penalties for underpayment of Stamp Duty. This makes me so fucking angry.

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HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 08:53

Oh the telegraph is lying ,oh dear

BIossomtoes · 19/05/2026 08:50

HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 08:48

@Alexandra2001 I see so she didn't need the legal letter then ?

There’s no evidence that such a letter ever existed.

HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 08:48

@Alexandra2001 I see so she didn't need the legal letter then ?

Alexandra2001 · 19/05/2026 07:35

HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 06:48

Oh I see so it wasnt our efficient tax system that stopped this it was her being able to afford solicitors ....ok.
As long as she applies this to other people maybe give us all legal aid so we can also threaten the tax office !

The timescales HMRC have taken on AR, are on par with most other tax decisions.

...heading towards 8 months... yet people claim she has received favourable treatment....

FWIW in my 2 cases with HMRC, they took 4 to 5 months, no lawyer required.

BIossomtoes · 19/05/2026 06:57

HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 06:48

Oh I see so it wasnt our efficient tax system that stopped this it was her being able to afford solicitors ....ok.
As long as she applies this to other people maybe give us all legal aid so we can also threaten the tax office !

If you need specialist tax advice it’s highly unlikely you wouldn’t be able to afford to pay for it. We’re not talking about mistake in her tax code here.

HowdoyoureallyKnow · 19/05/2026 06:48

Oh I see so it wasnt our efficient tax system that stopped this it was her being able to afford solicitors ....ok.
As long as she applies this to other people maybe give us all legal aid so we can also threaten the tax office !

CurlewKate · 19/05/2026 06:27

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If you think the tax issue was a honest mistake, why do you despise her? What else has she potentially done that’s worthy of such strong feelings?

pointythings · 18/05/2026 21:38

BIossomtoes · 18/05/2026 21:32

Ah, The Telegraph, that impeccably truthful and accurate source.

Time for the Telegraph to provide proof then. Because they're not at all biased against AR and didn't at all have one of their columnists write a smear piece about her very recently.

BIossomtoes · 18/05/2026 21:32

Ah, The Telegraph, that impeccably truthful and accurate source.

Clavinova · 18/05/2026 19:47

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2026 18:03

Where did you read that?

Probably in the Telegraph;

HMRC closed its investigation into Angela Rayner’s £40,000 tax bill just 24 hours after her lawyers demanded a decision, in a move that cleared her path to challenge Sir Keir Starmer...

After disastrous local election results for Labour and mounting calls for Sir Keir to resign, Ms Rayner’s lawyer wrote to HMRC on Monday, requesting her case be closed “as soon as possible”, The Telegraph can disclose.

HMRC replied the following day, informing Ms Rayner that it would take no further action against her in the case, which had threatened to torpedo her chances of a return to front-line politics.

On Thursday morning, Ms Rayner announced that she had settled the £40,000 in unpaid stamp duty, paving the way for her to join a potential Labour leadership challenge.

Her team refused to say when the payment had been made, but The Telegraph understands it was at the beginning of this week.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/14/rayner-cleared-tax-inquiry-24-hours-after-lawyer-letter/

ImTamil · 18/05/2026 15:02

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pointythings · 18/05/2026 14:41

Alexandra2001 · 18/05/2026 08:36

File under "Things that never happened"

Agreed. Citation or it never happened.

Alexandra2001 · 18/05/2026 08:36

File under "Things that never happened"

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2026 18:03

ginislife · 17/05/2026 16:29

Im pissed off that I read her lawyer wrote to them on the Monday telling them it was taking too long and they cleared her on the Tuesday. I’ve been waiting over 12 months for replies to letters about our clients. Stinks to high heaven. She’s not fit to be a minister let alone PM.

Where did you read that?

ginislife · 17/05/2026 16:29

Im pissed off that I read her lawyer wrote to them on the Monday telling them it was taking too long and they cleared her on the Tuesday. I’ve been waiting over 12 months for replies to letters about our clients. Stinks to high heaven. She’s not fit to be a minister let alone PM.

pointythings · 17/05/2026 12:15

No matter what else has been said on this thread, OP, I do hope you are successful in getting your fine refunded because clearly you had major mitigating circumstances.

Ihateboris · 17/05/2026 11:19

daisychain01 · 17/05/2026 11:16

Did you give the right evidence of your illness for example medical letters, any evidence via your GP. Illness is definitely a valid reason, not just a hospital say. The reality is your illness meant you could have been incapacitated for longer than just the hospital stay.

i know it's really hard when you don't necessarily have the strength and wherewithal to keep fighting, but try again because it will at least help you with closure. If you have any RL support, use that as well. Flowers

Thanks so much for your post . I've now gathered the information together and will try to get the fine repaid. According to many on here, the Inland Revenue are very lenient so fingers crossed 🤞

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Ihateboris · 17/05/2026 11:17

And thank you to the posters suggesting I can get my fine repaid. I'm going to try to do this so thank you. Oh, and I've already filed my 2026 Tax Return so will not be in that position again!

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daisychain01 · 17/05/2026 11:16

Ihateboris · 14/05/2026 08:44

I did appeal. After I'd paid the fine as I was fucking scared to death. I think I'll try again though having read this thread, so thank you.

Did you give the right evidence of your illness for example medical letters, any evidence via your GP. Illness is definitely a valid reason, not just a hospital say. The reality is your illness meant you could have been incapacitated for longer than just the hospital stay.

i know it's really hard when you don't necessarily have the strength and wherewithal to keep fighting, but try again because it will at least help you with closure. If you have any RL support, use that as well. Flowers

Ihateboris · 17/05/2026 11:09

Thank you for everyone's contributions to this post. I'm relieved that I'm NBU.

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TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 09:31

Araminta1003 · 17/05/2026 09:26

I think the jury is out there on who would destroy Britain more - Angela Rayner or Farage, ahem.
If Angela Rayner backstabs Sir Keir Starmer she hardly gets to keep the morale high ground, even if it is true that she was “Wronged”. I mean the law is the law and death and taxes, ah - it is not about “wronged”. People enjoy it because additional stamp duty although introduced by the Tories is more of a leftie control measure. So if she got stung on some technical grounds, people enjoy the drama of it. And that is where it ends. If she feels punished by the tax system, join the queue!
But for some of us, we really just did want to understand the law behind it all. It needs reform and clarification.

The real Angela is desperately trying not to stand up. She, like Streeting, is desperate for the power that they can see within their grasp. Just think if she had kept her book clean, she'd be a shoe in to replace Starmer. Then the party's misogynists would have rallied around trying to find a way to not elect a female PM.

Araminta1003 · 17/05/2026 09:31

And anyway, what do they like to say?

Enjoy the privilege of being able to pay taxes, it is a huge privilege to be able to! Do your bit for the country.

Araminta1003 · 17/05/2026 09:26

I think the jury is out there on who would destroy Britain more - Angela Rayner or Farage, ahem.
If Angela Rayner backstabs Sir Keir Starmer she hardly gets to keep the morale high ground, even if it is true that she was “Wronged”. I mean the law is the law and death and taxes, ah - it is not about “wronged”. People enjoy it because additional stamp duty although introduced by the Tories is more of a leftie control measure. So if she got stung on some technical grounds, people enjoy the drama of it. And that is where it ends. If she feels punished by the tax system, join the queue!
But for some of us, we really just did want to understand the law behind it all. It needs reform and clarification.

TwinklyGoldPeer · 17/05/2026 08:58

aquashiv · 17/05/2026 08:48

This situation wasn't due to negligence, like saying 'Forget it, I haven't filed my return,' nor was it about attempting to exploit a loophole by transferring my house to my girlfriend to avoid taxes, similar to what Farage did. She acted in good faith, but unfortunately, the advice she received was wrong, particularly because it involved her disabled son. I feel profound despair for anyone who equates her actions with the morally dubious behaviour of that con artist whom racists want to see destroy Britain.

Why is it even a competition as to which MP behaves more dishonourably? If you're serious about expecting honourable behaviour you would be applying that equally. Your last statement is pure hyperbole.

aquashiv · 17/05/2026 08:48

FinchiePink · 14/05/2026 08:31

We will never be privy to the full details (naturally), but there is every chance HMRC had already accepted her first, erroneous SDLT return.

I'm a tax advisor and HMRC are actually fairly reasonable, particularly when it comes to complex areas of legislation. And having dealt with trusts and SDLT (I'm a trust expert, that part I'm fine with) I can confirm that it is anything but simple, despite what the press keep saying. I hate dealing with SDLT. If I never had to look at it again I'd be very happy.

My guess is she's made the incorrect return to HMRC, HMRC have accepted it, then it came out it wasn't, and now everyone's had to do a bit of face-saving and consequently HMRC have waived penalties and interest. It wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last. The difference here is that this has played out in public.

This situation wasn't due to negligence, like saying 'Forget it, I haven't filed my return,' nor was it about attempting to exploit a loophole by transferring my house to my girlfriend to avoid taxes, similar to what Farage did. She acted in good faith, but unfortunately, the advice she received was wrong, particularly because it involved her disabled son. I feel profound despair for anyone who equates her actions with the morally dubious behaviour of that con artist whom racists want to see destroy Britain.