To be fed up with the WASPIs' renewed campaign?

Okay, maybe you could clarify this for me? I was born in October 1960, so six months outside the WASPI time-frame. How was I better informed than any of you lot because I knew for years?

We are already facing an affordability crisis for our younger generations due to an ageing population. Government funded early retirement only worsens this.

One of the people in the OP @Jane379 photo looks suspicious to me! Sincere apologies if I’m wrong.
I’ll to work until I’m 67. I think the Waspis should quit moaning tbh. I’m confused at how it’s unfair on them but fine for those of us who were younger. Especially bearing in mind all the positives they had by being baby boomers.

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In this country it's shocking how many women, and men didn't know about the new pension legislation and were ill-prepared.
Just like many women or men didn't know about the equal rights legislation.
So for you younger and you "more aware" disbelievers in the waspi campaign, it'll be you one day.

Originally men and women both got the State pension at 70.

After the Second World War the decision was taken to reduce the age to 65. At the time, generally speaking, men were 5 years older than their wives, so someone had the idea that if women got their pension at 60 it meant a married couple would both retire in the same tax year which would, it was thought, make tax collection easier.

My mum was born in 1954 so she was one of the ones it effected with short notice. But said she could never understand why women got to retire earlier anyway. Especially when women live longer

Well, you can if you earned unequal pay, and weren’t allowed to pay into an occupational pension for most of your working life. There is still a gender pay gap now, but when 50’s born women (not all are members of WASPI) started working there was legal discrimination against women. That wasn’t swept away by the Equality Act.

"Well, how would you feel if you'd had tens of thousands of pounds stolen from your expected government pension, AND being made to work and extra seven years into the bargain.
Don't forget, we waspis paid towards our government pension for the whole of our working life, and it was all many of us had to keep us through our retirement, as many of us didn't for whatever reason, or couldn't afford to pay into a private pension too."

Hyperbole. If not actually stuff and nonsense.

Nobody "pays towards a government pension" pensions come out of current taxation. Unlike a private pension scheme you have no ownership of a State pension, you get one on the terms the Government lays down from time-to-time.

There has been no "WASPI injustice" and I trust no Government (of any party) would be so weak as to give into this rubbish.

A someone who worked in the pensions industry, yes I am totally fed up with their antics.

The change was publicly announced and from an actuarial perspective it doesn't go far enough. The State pension age should really be 70 or possibly even 72, given that the underlying assumption was it would usually be paid for 15 years.

Their demands are based on greed, nothing else.

But we all have to work that extra 7 years, we all pay towards the government pension and there's plenty that don't have a private pension. You're no different to most.

The government need to draw a line under this and just say a firm 'no'. Even if the country was flush with cash, it would be unreasonable but under the current circumstances, the last thing we need is to be paying out billions of tax payers money to people who, for the main part, should have known about and planned for the change.

Why are you fed up with it? What's to be fed up about?

They are trying it on. There is no way to prove who saw what. It was widely advertised.

that generation have done incredibly well - like no other really- out of this country.

I’m that age group. It’s been well known for over 30 years. I simply do not believe anyone who says they didn’t know.

I’m that age. Those that say they didn’t know about it weren’t paying attention.

I'm in that WASPI age range and would get a payout if they win but think this campaign is pure greed. The number of women who were genuinely impacted is small, the changes were widely publicised and I fail to see how anyone could have missed it. I saw an article from one woman complaining that she retired and only then found she couldn't get her state pension for years, that takes a special kind of wilful ignorance to retire without checking!

I'm also sick of the moaning about how hard we had things. Yes, some things were harder but some things are harder for young people now; every generation has its own challenges

Now that’s an odd take.

How about if we stop paying for migrants and have all of this spare money. Where should the WASPI women’s claim be to compensation sit on the government’s list of priorities?

How about the money coming from the billion pound migrant budget?
Let’s import thousands of men who have entirely different cultural norms from our own and pay for their accommodation, food etc, instead of taking care of our own citizens who have paid into the pot for decades?

I'm not in the UK but I had a penfriend who was one of them. I stopped corresponding with her, it got so boring.

So you never worked before the sex discrimination/ equal pay legislation, you never worked before employers had to offer contributions into a work place pension?

Many These women were already hugely disadvantaged by having earned less than men and never having a private pension.

when i started working I expected to stop and get a pension at 60. I’ll be lucky if I get one at 70 now. Not complaining because I know it’s unsustainable. Where oh where do they think this magic money will come from?! I knew about it, it was everywhere and I was a generally feckless young person at the time. It just takes one person to say ‘I didn’t get that message..,’ for all these pests to jump on the bandwagon!! The world is burning and there’s no cash!! Deal

I’m this age group as well and it was all over the news at the time . I remember being at work and my colleagues and all shrugging and saying I guess we will have to work longer before we get our pensions then. My then teenage daughters knew all about it too.

I genuinely do not understand how they claim they didn’t know.

I am another who cannot see how they were not aware of the forthcoming changes.
I know it has been through law but as someone whose own state retirement date was moved back 7yrs, I still can't fathom how they missed it when it was on the news, in newspapers (remember them?) etc when it was first announced.

It is all very well saying that when they entered the world of work, they were told that the retirement age was 60 so why was it allowed to be changed, but that frankly rather naive. Things change all the time so what was the government supposed to do, make the change for all current school levers and in the meantime (for the next 45yrs or so), keep the retirement age at 60?