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To wonder why Lisa Nandy is missing from the conversation?

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 14:27

Lisa Nandy ran for leadership of Labour against Starmer (I voted for her). So how come Wes Streeting is being talked about and pushed forward, but Lisa isn't?

YABU - no one's heard of her
YANBU - this is weird and sucks, especially for a party who is yet to have a woman leader and has been bested by the EDI loving Conservatives on this repeatedly!

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Grumpie · 13/05/2026 19:04

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 13/05/2026 17:45

😂OMG I forgot that!!

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It’s always worth watching again….

Pinribbons · 13/05/2026 17:50

She has publically supported the idea of Andy Burnham as leader, so I guess she no longer wants the job?

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 13/05/2026 17:45

Grumpie · 13/05/2026 17:14

Lisa Nandy 😀. How about Dawn Butler. She could recite the words to Something Inside so Strong again.

😂OMG I forgot that!!

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 13/05/2026 17:45

Labour don't do 'women' do they? As leaders or targeted voters. Unless I missed something 🙄

Additup · 13/05/2026 17:41

I dont know why she's missing from the conversation OP, but I'm really glad she is because she's not a credible option as party leader, nevermind PM.

Grumpie · 13/05/2026 17:14

Lisa Nandy 😀. How about Dawn Butler. She could recite the words to Something Inside so Strong again.

Grumpie · 13/05/2026 17:13

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:57

She’s such a wet lettuce.

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She is. I used to have meetings with her and she was awful

Hoardasurass · 13/05/2026 17:12

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:47

Would you rather a male PM who was against gender transition, or a woman PM who was for it? I think it's an interesting position to take to say you'd prefer a man to lead the country than a woman based on their stances on women's rights

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I would prefer anyone male or female who stood up for womens rights over the demands of men.
So yes I'd prefer a man who is gc over a woman who is willing to throw other women under the bus for the sake of of a male fantasy.
Honestly do you think that women should be locked in a prison cell with a rapist? or that a someone who does is fit to lead this country?
If your answer to either of my questions is yes then you need to have a serious look at yourself because thats state sponsored rape that your advocating

MyAutumnCrow · 13/05/2026 17:12

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:57

She’s such a wet lettuce.

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She's up Prince Harry's arse for some reason.

MyAutumnCrow · 13/05/2026 17:11

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:40

If you used to be a Labour voter, who do you vote for now?

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I voted Lib Dem in the locals, to keep Reform out (it was tight). The local candidate is a good, local bloke. I doubt he has a clue about the Wera Hobhouse / Layla Moran whackaloon element on high, and I might see if I can get him interested in the (sex realist) Liberal Voice for Women group.

RoseField1 · 13/05/2026 17:01

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:47

Would you rather a male PM who was against gender transition, or a woman PM who was for it? I think it's an interesting position to take to say you'd prefer a man to lead the country than a woman based on their stances on women's rights

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I joined the party so I could vote against Nandy and Rebecca whatsit for leader simply because of their gender ideology views. Of course that means I had to vote starmer but it was purely by elimination. I also naively thought that as a former human rights lawyer he might be a decent leader 🙄

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:58

Shabana Mahmoud or Wes Streetibg are the only tolerable options. Anyone left of there will trigger a bond crisis. And I sadly suspect that’s where we’re headed.

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:57

gingercat02 · 13/05/2026 16:22

Cos she awful. What about Yvette Cooper?

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She’s such a wet lettuce.

GreatWhiteWail · 13/05/2026 16:55

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:41

Are you a Labour voter? If not, I can understand why you wouldn't want any of them. If you are, who from the party would you want as leader?

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Yes, I am.

I can't put into words how disappointed I am in the weakness of this government though, I genuinely didn't expect it could be so bad. I thought Starmer had principles and a plan underneath it all, and he just didn't, and the PLP is running amok and he just caves.

So many of the cabinet (and backbenchers) are a massive let down, especially for women. I do like Shabana Mahmood. Streeting has done alright (but a bellwedder, I think, rather than genuine). I am really, really struggling to think of who could actually fix it.

I just want someone competent and serious who actually thinks things through and has a plan, rather than floating about in the wind.

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 16:45

Purplerocket · 13/05/2026 16:26

Why would any party choose a leader based on EDI? Surely everyone wants who would be best at the job and that certainly isn't Lisa Nandy.

I was making a facetious joke about the Tories being the EDI party because they've actually had female leaders, but it's only partly a joke because I really do suspect Labour has a woman problem.

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Purplerocket · 13/05/2026 16:26

Why would any party choose a leader based on EDI? Surely everyone wants who would be best at the job and that certainly isn't Lisa Nandy.

gingercat02 · 13/05/2026 16:22

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 14:27

Lisa Nandy ran for leadership of Labour against Starmer (I voted for her). So how come Wes Streeting is being talked about and pushed forward, but Lisa isn't?

YABU - no one's heard of her
YANBU - this is weird and sucks, especially for a party who is yet to have a woman leader and has been bested by the EDI loving Conservatives on this repeatedly!

Cos she awful. What about Yvette Cooper?

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:15

I just disagree with too many of their policies. Ever increasing welfare. Turning a blind eye to things like marginal rates of tax which if fixed would really boost growth. They have advisors telling them what to do to boost growth. They’re just ignoring them.

And then dithering on the equality guidance. Makes them seem so untrustworthy. Like they think they can chuck women’s rights under a bus and we’ll not notice.

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 16:12

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:40

If you used to be a Labour voter, who do you vote for now?

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I still do vote Labour. Have done for the last 10 years. I think I’m more of a Tory voter really. Sick of paying so much in tax and feeling like I’m getting nothing in return.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 13/05/2026 16:01

acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:47

Would you rather a male PM who was against gender transition, or a woman PM who was for it? I think it's an interesting position to take to say you'd prefer a man to lead the country than a woman based on their stances on women's rights

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I would rather have a male PM who I agreed with than a female PM who I didn’t. And that’s generally, not specific just to this issue.

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:54

Alexandra2001 · 13/05/2026 15:47

I know you re not asking me but if KS goes, i would have Emily Thornberry as leader/PM.

She has a great back story, very smart, acerbic wit, female! and would tear interviewers and Badenoch to pieces.

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Yes, I think she'd also be a good shout, but for some reason she doesn't seem to have backing inside the party. But then, I'm also starting to think Labour has a misogyny problem because what women HAVE had backing within the party? You can have all the all-women shortlists you like, but when the Tory's have had four women leaders (including three PMs) to your zero, it looks like you have a problem

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:50

MyAutumnCrow · 13/05/2026 14:53

Lisa's not the sharpest tool in the box. Not the bravest little soldier, either. She's probably keeping her head down, and - in her Secretary of State role - wondering if Birmingham Invictus is going tits up, what she should say about Eurovision, and how to turn her new computer on.

That's an interesting view, the complete opposite of mine! What gives you the impression she's not smart?

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:49

WhatAMarvelousTune · 13/05/2026 14:43

The other day she said (about Starmer) “He stuck to his plan and he turned the situation for the party around - now he wants to do the same for the country and I want him to succeed." So she’s certainly not one of the ones who has come out clearly against him.

Equally, she (and others) might be keeping quiet now, let Streeting look like the one to cause a chaotic leadership election, and then stand for leader herself when that happens.

Yes I'm wondering that too, and perhaps there's an understanding that ready to lead a party isn't the same as ready to be PM right now

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:48

Chiachomp · 13/05/2026 14:40

I mean there’s many other reasons why I doubt I’d vote Labour next time (despite an EXCELLENT local MP - sorry) but this would absolutely seal it. But so would Andy Burnham or Angela Raynor getting power so don’t listen to me!

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Were you previously a Labour voter? If so, is there anyone in the party you could see leading?

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acheekyNandys · 13/05/2026 15:47

Hoardasurass · 13/05/2026 14:38

Yep and actually said men who identify as women should be in women's prisons and had no problem with double rapist isla bryson/Adam Graham being put in an all women's jail.

@acheekyNandys Lisa nandy is the worst kind of aunt Lydia type out there and should be kept as far away from power as possible

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Would you rather a male PM who was against gender transition, or a woman PM who was for it? I think it's an interesting position to take to say you'd prefer a man to lead the country than a woman based on their stances on women's rights

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