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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

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SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/05/2026 14:23

Trinketmarch · 13/05/2026 14:10

While it's true that contact with a loving grandma is great for kids, I would also be very reluctant for her to have regular sole care if she is not actually capable of prioritising their wellbeing above her own wishes. IMO the way she is looking after them is not loving, she is just indulging herself at their expense. I couldn't let anyone do that to my kids.

What is the advantage to them of sole care with grandma vs grandma coming over to play with them whilst mum and dad are also at home? None, I'd say. The kids should come first and while a relationship with grandparents is hugely beneficial to them, it doesn't have to be one that is completely on the grandparents' terms. If grandparents insist on this is shows that they don't have the kids' best interests at heart. Things may change as they get older - naps and sugar and bedtimes will matter much less in a few years.

I think you need to be very direct with her that if things don't change, it'll be game over for babysitting until they are bigger.

Totally agree with this. It all seems to be about her and what she wants. There is no need to her to have sole care of the children when she could spend time with you all as a family.
She might be upset, but you need to hold your ground.

Iwanttobeafraser · 13/05/2026 14:22

I see both sides. I think once a month, you're being a bit harsh. A large slice of cake isn't ideal, but once a month, it really isn't a big deal. But it IS perfectly reasonable to say to her that if she wants More time, then it has to be less about granny, fun time.

I had a similar conversation with my MIL years ago. When I came in from a day out while she looked after the DC at her house (she lived in another country and we visited only annually), and foudn her hand feeding 18 month old DS the world's largest easter egg. Inside I was rolling my eyes it was so ridiculous and she was clearly worried I'd be cross but I basically said that if she was looking after him routinely, then no, this owuld NOT be okay, but as this is a once a year thing ... I wasn't going to get worked up.

On that same trip however when she kept wanting him to stay up late at night I told her that in that case, DS could come sleep in her room and wake HER up 515 times a night. He went to bed on time after that. Grin

thepariscrimefiles · 13/05/2026 14:20

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:29

@Octavia64we frequently invite her on days out and she says it’s not the same. She complains that she feels like a “visiting grandma rather than family”. Sole care is the only thing that seems to be that’ll make her feel “like a grandma”…
And DH is v concerned about giving this to her as our kids are her only grandchildren

Your kids aren't toys or props for your MIL to play with or use as validation for her 'favourite grandma' status.

If your DH insists on letting her have her own way, he needs to be the one to tell her that she must stick to your rules in relation to food/treat,s screen time and bed time.

It's harder work for her to engage them in other ways, but if she insists on having them on her own, rather than having a nice time with them with you there, that is what she will have to do.

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 13/05/2026 14:20

I can totally see spending time with grandparents as a special memory with being allowed to bend the rules. I don’t think those kind of visits were every 2 weeks though at least in my opinion that doesn’t make them special that makes them regular events! And regular times you are then having to deal with difficult children afterwards.

Tell DH children aren’t dolls to appease his mother and an every so often visit where she gets to spoil them is fine but for regular babysitting it’s not acceptable and as she won’t listen she can visit with you and DH present and only have occasional babysitting. Good luck don’t let MILs wants trump what is best for you and the kids and ask DH why he thinks his mothers wants are more important than his kids needs. As I said occasionally spoiling all good in my opinion, but regularly complaining and guilt tripping to them make it harder for the parents is ridiculous!

wrinklycactus · 13/05/2026 14:20

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:42

@AnotherNameChange1234567 she can take them to her garden for a quick run around but says 2 is difficult to manage in an open space / out and about, but also that the little one is difficult as he doesn’t like to stay in the pram for long but also won’t walk fast at a zoo, the 6yo is high energy as 6yos are… or that it’s just “nicer” at granny’s house (I think it’s laziness tbh)

So hang on... she wants sole charge of the children... but doesn't actually look after them properly, leaves them overtired and overstimulated, insists on being an 'involved grandma' but can't even be bothered to take them outside? Plonks them in front of the TV?

Err what?

She's got you wrapped around her little finger OP and I agree with posters saying she is manipulative. Some people don't even get to be grandparents, let alone dictate and demand how things should be.

Honestly you just have to be blunt about this and deal with the fallout. She has had her go at raising children and doesn't get to place these kinds of demands on you. I hate to be that person saying grandparents need to know their place, but in this case, she really does need to be told.

midJulytarget · 13/05/2026 14:19

I actually find it creepy when a grandparent uses guilt as a tool if they're not allowed access to children unsupervised by parents.

Yes I am implying things. Just look on online support forums - it happens sometimes.

However she's probably just run of the mill selfish. You've persuaded many of us here, the key now is how to persuade dh.

WildLeader · 13/05/2026 14:16

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 14:04

@KaleidoscopeSmile I’ve said from the start that she constantly asks for these and feels “hurt” when she doesn’t babysit enough and we have to fabricate date nights for her

My love… LET HER feel hurt!

grey rock and “oh yes, blah blah”

or honesty and say “the fallout of your decisions to let them eat copious cake/stay up/game/tv until way too late mean that the kids are in bits for DAYS. They need their routine. You override it every time and the kids pay the price. Let’s put their wellbeing and best interests at the heart of all this first and foremost.”

and repeat. Stand up for your kids.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/05/2026 14:14

Octavia64 · 13/05/2026 13:24

one way around this may be to try to make her feel more included.

this could be day trips out that she joins you on etc.

that way she’s not got sole care.

OP has said that:

'Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her.'

So they do include her but she insists on looking after them without the parents being present.

waterrat · 13/05/2026 14:14

As you have asked for opinions - honestly let her have her granny time with cuddles in front of the tv and ignoring your rules.

She is probably more confident doing it that way then managing them outdoors -

we had an amazing childminder who did allow more tv than I would have and a lot of sweets - my kids loved her and have such precious memories

I promise once your kids are older the whole nap thing will seem like a vague memory while relationships last -

Surely there is a path between how you would do it and how she would do it? To let her have some time she enjoys with them.

HoppityBun · 13/05/2026 14:12

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:59

@Edenmum2
she spends the whole time saying “oh when you get to come to my house… they’re coming some time next week, right?!!” (Meaning to be looked after without us) , “it’s a shame mummy and daddy haven’t left you for a while with granny, granny just wants to be your granny… you are soon, right?”

It’s interesting, though, that she has never had to deal with the consequences of not giving them firm guidance and boundaries. I

I suggest that you do let her have them for extended periods because she has to see what happens when they don’t have a routine and can’t eat proper meals because they’ve had too many treats.

GingerLeopard · 13/05/2026 14:10

I'm in two minds here - I can totally see your side and know how annoying it must be for you. But on the other hand, did you never go to your grandparents as a kid and get spoilt? It's kind of what grandparents do! Some of my best memories are raiding my grandma's biscuit tin as much as I liked, being given second or third helpings of jelly and ice cream, staying up late and watching tv with my grandma. Isn't that just what grandparents do? If it's only once a month, I think I'd just suck it up, or cut back on her having them so often.
Could it be that she isn't the best MIL to you or is a bit annoying (totally understand that - I have one of those myself) and you're using this as a reason to have a bit of a rant about her?

Trinketmarch · 13/05/2026 14:10

While it's true that contact with a loving grandma is great for kids, I would also be very reluctant for her to have regular sole care if she is not actually capable of prioritising their wellbeing above her own wishes. IMO the way she is looking after them is not loving, she is just indulging herself at their expense. I couldn't let anyone do that to my kids.

What is the advantage to them of sole care with grandma vs grandma coming over to play with them whilst mum and dad are also at home? None, I'd say. The kids should come first and while a relationship with grandparents is hugely beneficial to them, it doesn't have to be one that is completely on the grandparents' terms. If grandparents insist on this is shows that they don't have the kids' best interests at heart. Things may change as they get older - naps and sugar and bedtimes will matter much less in a few years.

I think you need to be very direct with her that if things don't change, it'll be game over for babysitting until they are bigger.

CieloElmers · 13/05/2026 14:06

My Nana used to bend the rules with me and I’m sure my Mum does with my kids.

Yes it can be annoying sometimes but Grandparents in my opinion should be allowed to spoil the Grandkids, loosen up a little.

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 14:04

@KaleidoscopeSmile I’ve said from the start that she constantly asks for these and feels “hurt” when she doesn’t babysit enough and we have to fabricate date nights for her

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WildLeader · 13/05/2026 14:04

@wndqstn it doesn’t even need to be combative or confrontational. And if she tries that, shut it down and say this isn’t a war, this isn’t about her or you, it’s about the kids and that’s what’s important. Keep bringing it back to the kids. She can’t win with pushing back on that.

WildLeader · 13/05/2026 14:02

@wndqstn these are your kids. Their wellbeing is your responsibility (I know you know this)

you’ve tried to hint/gently explain and it falls flat.

so make the decision to let her visit, or take the kids to see her, but WHEN she moans, TELL her that you just can’t keep taking the fallout of her “granny’s prerogative” and that your other side of the family does listen to your (not unreasonable) requests and therefore the kids routine just works as normal AND they get their time with them.

be blunt. It’s better now than later when you’ll get really resentful and enraged about it.

KaleidoscopeSmile · 13/05/2026 14:02

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:43

@EmeraldShamrock000about once a month but we get nagged that it isn’t once a week or once a fortnight, as it “ideally should be”

You're actually adding stuff in now to make her sound worse.

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 14:01

@Goodluckanddontfitupid say we manage pretty well! We’re lucky that our youngest can nap pretty much anywhere, strolled, bed, home, car, hotel etc, and we do stick to a healthy diet wherever we are. Of course with the occasional treat for their birthday or party but not “a random Tuesday because granny fancied it” and the treat would be a few bites of cake / small slice, not a slice fit for a very hungry adult finishing a marathon

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:59

@Edenmum2
she spends the whole time saying “oh when you get to come to my house… they’re coming some time next week, right?!!” (Meaning to be looked after without us) , “it’s a shame mummy and daddy haven’t left you for a while with granny, granny just wants to be your granny… you are soon, right?”

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:57

@WaneyEdge@LiviaDrusillaAugusta
So is having lots of sugar completely ok? Not at all damaging? I’d argue a 2yo (or a 6yo for that matter) eating a large slice of cake is far from ideal

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Goodluckanddontfitup · 13/05/2026 13:57

I get that this must be annoying, but having to stick such a regimented routine and expecting anyone in your child’s life to do the same is going to cause you issues in the long run I feel. Again I see that having to deal with the fall out is irritating but outside of MIL going outside of your routine you are surely limiting yourselves in terms of how you manage holidays, days out, parties, weddings etc. or do you allow a break in routine for this, just not MIL? I dont think it’s a grandparents role to parent in the same way as the parents of the child do, and it’s nice for them to take more of a ‘fun’ (obviously safe) role and it helps builds a nice relationship

Edenmum2 · 13/05/2026 13:54

So do stuff WITH her?

ThreadGuardDog · 13/05/2026 13:52

CurlewKate · 13/05/2026 13:27

No-her feelings don't matter at all-why would she want to see her grandchildren? You just keep prioritising your mother. The occasional late night for a 6 year old is completely unacceptable…..

And OP isn’t saying any of this. Why the need to be so snippy when OP has explained her objections pretty comprehensively ?

LadyDanburysHat · 13/05/2026 13:50

Having sole care of children is not a must. I don't understand these grandparents who insist on it. In her case it seems to be because she knows you would not let her get away with all of the nonsense with you there.

I'm afraid DH is going to have to be upset. He has a choice between an annoyed DM and an annoyed DW.