AIBU to predict Streeting will resign tomorrow & trigger leadership contest.

Agreed and I think with Rayner it’s pure classism. We’re not ready to have a working class PM with a regional accent.

Same. I think he’s an utter snake, his friendship with Mandelson proved that for me. Did you see his fake weasly belly laugh during PMQs yesterday as well? He’s awful.

Rayner has been cleared by HMRC and I’d much rather see her in charge.

I do reckon Andy Burnham is the only one that has a chance of coming up with better policies, an ability to manage people and an ability to communicate them well. All things the other runners definitely lack on one dimension or another.

She did not "forget" to pay 'duty, she paid the incorrect amount, forgetting would be considered an avoidable error and you'd get a fine.

As she has had no fine, HMRC have seen it as a genuine mistake, being an MP or even Deputy PM, doesn't make one a tax expert in the eyes of HMRC.

She has done nothing wrong.

But regardless, this a bit of a derail, i'm sure they'll be a thread on it!

And isn't streeting ex stonewall ? And didn't he write spiteful nasty twitter messages ?

Other than her stance on trans issues (she is full on TWAW if I remember right) I like Angela Rayner but I think she would have about as much chance of getting Labour to win the next GE as Corbyn (who I also liked). I just don’t think those people who perhaps reluctantly voted Labour with Keir at the helm will vote for Labour with Rayner. The press would love it as they would have a field day, just like they did with Corbyn, and if we’ve seen a press attack on Starmer we have seen nothing compared to what Rayner would get. Not saying it’s right of course.

So yet another right wing media slur on Rayner that turned out to be nothing of the sort.

No Fine = No wrong doing.

I like her but pray to god she doesn't stand or anyone else, its the last thing we all need.

This in spades.

Anyone who forgets just how close and how long he stayed close with mandleson, even AFTER his links to Epstein were widely known, needs to take a close look into this.

A man anyone can trust. Never.

Like most ex politicians that move away from it completely to do stupid shit on TV, Ed balls has lost any credibility he may have had.

I’m that rare beast, an actual Labour Party member, more through habit than enthusiasm currently.

If it comes down to a straight fight between Keir and Wes, I’ll vote for Keir.

Wes doesn’t offer anything other than not being Keir - we need a radically different approach, and a leader who can really connect with the public, someone with charisma who actually speaks like a human being.

Only if she brings back Ed Balls as Chancellor. Husband and wife dream team 😀

Although I think he enjoys doing GMB and his podcast far too much to even consider coming back.

those are really small policies, and what they're doing with SEN is taking away EHCPs from a bunch of children at their next school stage, the 4 billion is a small bribe in the scheme of things to convince people that mainstreaming can be made to work.

Wes Streeting sees no problem in giving access to all our NHS records to the US Palantir. Palantir is run by Louis Mosley, the grandson of Oswald Mosely, leader of the British Union of Fascists. In what universe would WS be a suitable leader of the Labour (or any) party?

I'd rather Starmer stays, but if he has to go then Streeting is the best replacement.

Burnham or Rayner would be a disaster, especially financially.

I'm just sick of this constant merry-go-round of leaders . How the hell can ministers do an effective job when there is no consistency or stability.
It feels like playground politics and it's beyond a joke now.

I’ve gone through the kings speech they are doing really good stuff.
apprenticeships
nhs reforms
investment in northern rail
more social housing
end right to buy
4 billion on SEND reform and provision

there was loads of good stuff in there.

it won’t be the headline though

Before you make patronising comments, prove it's not true.

You'll be hard pushed to.

I don't think the problem is only personality politics, the problem is that labour have no policies anyone is excited for them to enact. It is all very 'take your medicine you naughty children'. Nobody is desperate for labour to do anything in today's speech, and nobody much apart from labour adjacent/labour til I die types likes anything they've done so far.

Social media and big personalties is only one part of the story, the fact is that a lot of what they've done and are doing is leaving people cold. Hard to see how a new leader will help a lot unless they get new policies, although agree Starmer is a toxic person now

But that's not the only dealing he's had with them. And other companies that want to run private healthcare.

My point is that it was a conservative govt decision, so it was an inherited position Streeting had.