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AIBU to turn away from this man?

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NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 19:00

FWB for 4.5 years and have just fallen in love with him. Need help.

I am against relationships. My horrible abusive prior marriage fucked me up so badly. I can't describe the shock when he walked out and left me alone in a foreign country, where we had made our lives, and the longterm depression that followed. I've seen the underbelly of relationships and now I can never un-see it. This total lack of faith in commitment is how I managed to stay feelings-free for so long. I do not believe in love. Everyone's out for themselves and male love is so shallow, all based on looks. You only have to look at the difference between how slim women and larger women are treated to see that. I have been both. When I was very slim, many years ago, the power I had with men was insane. It's truly pathetic.

He's a filthy dirty sexy man who has been lovely to me for a long time, and 18 months ago told me that he loves me. We don't that near, about an hour apart, so there's a built-in stop, which suits me well. I know he was unfaithful in his last marriage, which is a big thing that put me off. I figured that I was so broken about relationships and they were all crap and that I'd rather be hung up by my thumbs than ever marry or live with anyone again, so I might as well sleep with the sexy rogue. I could not ever imagine having anything but in-the-moment feelings for anyone again.

Maybe you would call it a casual relationship rather than FWB.

He's just lost his second parent and he sent me a link to the hundreds of family photos he's putting into a video. I made the mistake of looking at them, and I saw how gorgeous he was down the years, and still is, and how lovely his family is, and I don't know, it's done something to me. He looks so good in his new suit for the funeral. Now I'm sitting here playing teenage love songs and contemplating sending him Falling by Angry Anderson! It wouldn't be inappropriate, he's said he loves me many times, but I don't believe him. If he can cheat on his former wife and the mother of his children, he can do it to anyone.

I think relationships are a pile of utter horseshit. They promise the earth and then let you down from a great height. And don't get me started on marriage. Most people shouldn't be married. Most cannot live up to the promises of marriage. So I see no point, except to have sexy in-the-moment fun, and we have had a ton of that.

Now, how do I get out of these feelings? Withdraw a little? Throw a bucket of cold water over myself? See other people? I have actually tried that over the years, and found a couple of people I liked who ruined it by getting really sexual really fast. My FWB has excellent bedroom manners. I haven't really tried to date others in ages because my dad got cancer in 2022 and died in 2025.

YABU - Go for it with him. Send the song, fall into his arms, throw caution to the wind.
YANBU - Making a conscious decision not to play the love game is a perfectly reasonable approach to life if the stakes are too high for you. Withdraw gracefully.

I'm too old to have kids and he has adult kids, so there's no issue with life trajectories or anything. We're past all that.

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BlakeCarrington · 12/05/2026 23:35

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 20:42

Oh, I've loved it for years! It's the B side to Suddenly, which is the wedding theme song from Charlene and Scott's wedding on Neighbours!

I have no shame.

No no no no no. It’s such an awful song, don’t do it. How can you love it?! I’m listening now to the soulful guitar solo after he’s been wanging on about making love. Just no.

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 23:26

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 23:18

Thats nice OP, glad to hear you’re both supportive of each other. Are you going to the funeral with him? Or attending separately?

And who knows why now? Maybe as I said, you’re an empath watching him go through a hard time and just growing feelings in this exact moment and the moment will pass? Maybe this has been coming for a while, your feelings have been growing and you’ve understandably dismissed them, but now you see someone you love hurting, and it’s made you realise you really love them?

Who knows! My advice is just to try and sit with the feelings for now, understand what you’re feeling and what you want, don’t talk to him until he’s processed his loss, if you want to at all, but also don’t close yourself off to experiences, affection, companionship, because of how hurt you’ve been. I’m honestly in the same boat, I’ve sworn off dating, can’t be arsed, they’re all shit. I’m happy getting my shots and giggles and make my intentions clear as well. But it sounds like you have something you should give a good bit of thought to. It’s been 4.5 years so it deserves that at least.

Goodnight and I’d love to hear an update!

Going separately. I don't know his family.

Thank you so much for all the advice! It could well be heightened feelings bc of the death. I never met his parents, but they were lovely, by all accounts. They'd have been wonderful parents in law. Much better than the lot I got (actually I never had a FIL). Maybe I'm just sad that I never met his dad and now I never will.

I'll see if this crush-within-a-relationship passes.

And in the meantime, you would be APPALLED by my current playlist! Current listening to Alone by Heart! 🤣

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TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 23:18

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 23:07

Yes, I'm being very supportive, as I would be for any close friend. I lost my parents many years before my peers, so I'm the go-to for everyone in my circle. And yes to funeral. He looks incredible in his new suit.

Mooning like a teenager. WHY NOW AFTER 4.5 YEARS! It's sick, is what it is.

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Thats nice OP, glad to hear you’re both supportive of each other. Are you going to the funeral with him? Or attending separately?

And who knows why now? Maybe as I said, you’re an empath watching him go through a hard time and just growing feelings in this exact moment and the moment will pass? Maybe this has been coming for a while, your feelings have been growing and you’ve understandably dismissed them, but now you see someone you love hurting, and it’s made you realise you really love them?

Who knows! My advice is just to try and sit with the feelings for now, understand what you’re feeling and what you want, don’t talk to him until he’s processed his loss, if you want to at all, but also don’t close yourself off to experiences, affection, companionship, because of how hurt you’ve been. I’m honestly in the same boat, I’ve sworn off dating, can’t be arsed, they’re all shit. I’m happy getting my shots and giggles and make my intentions clear as well. But it sounds like you have something you should give a good bit of thought to. It’s been 4.5 years so it deserves that at least.

Goodnight and I’d love to hear an update!

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 23:08

missspent · 12/05/2026 23:00

‘Suddenly’ is much better and the whole Scott and Charlene vibe

Yes, I love the piano solo at the beginning.

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NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 23:07

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:57

True! But you can have both 😂

Are you seeing and supporting him throughout his bereavement btw? Is the funeral something you will go to?

Yes, I'm being very supportive, as I would be for any close friend. I lost my parents many years before my peers, so I'm the go-to for everyone in my circle. And yes to funeral. He looks incredible in his new suit.

Mooning like a teenager. WHY NOW AFTER 4.5 YEARS! It's sick, is what it is.

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missspent · 12/05/2026 23:00

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 19:58

How can you say it's hideous? It's beautiful!

‘Suddenly’ is much better and the whole Scott and Charlene vibe

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:57

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:48

Thank you! I will think about it. Mumsnet witches much more fun than therapy tho!

True! But you can have both 😂

Are you seeing and supporting him throughout his bereavement btw? Is the funeral something you will go to?

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:50

Sidebeforeself · 12/05/2026 21:07

For someone who doesnt believe in loving relationships theres an awful lot of teenage angst going on! It reminds me of those photo stories you used to get in girl magazines. Just enjoy the sex if you dont want anything else ?

I know!!! I haven't been in this state since I was 14. So stupid!

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NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:48

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:40

Absolutely not saying you’re not strong or at ease by the way!!! Hope it doesn’t come across like that. I just find therapy can be a really productive way of figuring things out.

Definitely more productive than taking advice from us miserable, cynical witches on here anyway 😂

Thank you! I will think about it. Mumsnet witches much more fun than therapy tho!

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TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:40

Absolutely not saying you’re not strong or at ease by the way!!! Hope it doesn’t come across like that. I just find therapy can be a really productive way of figuring things out.

Definitely more productive than taking advice from us miserable, cynical witches on here anyway 😂

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:36

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:21

I'm not sure he's ever done it to anybody. I do know he's done it to himself. I did say he's a sex maniac!

Built you your own made-to-measure bondage cross! Dying. Absolutely dying! 🤣🤣🤣

I imagine it was quite handy for hanging clothes on? 🤣

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Haha, I know, never thought I’d have someone build me a bondage cross, amongst so many other things! 🤭 But all jokes aside, it was actually a beautiful piece of craftsmanship! 😂

It sounds like you’re having a bit of a wobble, maybe it’s a simple as you’re an empath and feel for him because you know what it’s like to lose a parent and your feelings are growing because of that. Whatever it is though, try not to ignore the thoughts, dissect them a bit and figure them out.

And think about therapy, it’s not a weakness, it really can bring a self understanding that will make you so much stronger and more at ease.

MyLimeGuide · 12/05/2026 22:33

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:23

There's a song called Freak on a Leash. Maybe I should send him that! 🤣🤭

Or A.D.I.D.A.S ?

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:23

There's a song called Freak on a Leash. Maybe I should send him that! 🤣🤭

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NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:21

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:16

Haha, I would be saying no as well! That has absolutely never appealed to me, I didn’t think people even did that in real life!

I won’t get into how outlandish, but it was outlandish…. He built me my own made to measure bondage cross for a start 😂 He was good with his hands 😂

Honestly, I’m a massive advocate for therapy. You’ve had a lot going on, you now have these complex feelings where your head and heart are at odds, talking things through with an unbiased, and qualified, observer can be life changing.

I'm not sure he's ever done it to anybody. I do know he's done it to himself. I did say he's a sex maniac!

Built you your own made-to-measure bondage cross! Dying. Absolutely dying! 🤣🤣🤣

I imagine it was quite handy for hanging clothes on? 🤣

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TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:16

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:10

How outlandish was outlandish?? I recently said no to urethral sounding, which he accepted without question.

I challenged him to show me his best kink, if he was so kinky, and he refused! 🤣

I haven't had therapy, but perhaps I need it!

Haha, I would be saying no as well! That has absolutely never appealed to me, I didn’t think people even did that in real life!

I won’t get into how outlandish, but it was outlandish…. He built me my own made to measure bondage cross for a start 😂 He was good with his hands 😂

Honestly, I’m a massive advocate for therapy. You’ve had a lot going on, you now have these complex feelings where your head and heart are at odds, talking things through with an unbiased, and qualified, observer can be life changing.

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:12

SlumChum · 12/05/2026 22:11

Yes send him that please! 🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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SlumChum · 12/05/2026 22:11

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:14

🤣 Well what's a good song in your book, then? Prison Sex???

Yes send him that please! 🤣

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:10

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:05

Giiirl, I’ve had a few of these, one in particular sticks out vividly! The sex was outlandish.

You challenged him because you wanted him to do something sexual with you and he wouldn’t? Or he tried something you didn’t like?

If you don’t want to talk to him about it then don’t! Carry on as you are, it seems to be working. But also, don’t close yourself off too much because of fear, or cynicism, or whatever else it might be. And honestly, that’s coming from a very cynical person!

And who know, his massive Catholic family might be amazing, and give you a positive experience of family.

Have you had therapy OP? I know it’s been a rough few years.

How outlandish was outlandish?? I recently said no to urethral sounding, which he accepted without question.

I challenged him to show me his best kink, if he was so kinky, and he refused! 🤣

I haven't had therapy, but perhaps I need it!

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TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 22:05

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:58

Re. sex maniac, he's massively into kink but says he can live without it. I actually challenged him once and he wouldn't do stuff to me that he's done in other relationships. I think I'm in the good-girl box. I'm just relieved he doesn't own a cattle prod, honestly.

The idea of getting involved with his truly massive Catholic family is enough to bring me out in hives. I've had a skinful of families. Mine were very stressful and my in-laws weren't much better. Family - the other F word.

I don't think I want to talk to him. I want these feelings to go away.

No to living together. I'd rather nail my clitoris to the ceiling.

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Giiirl, I’ve had a few of these, one in particular sticks out vividly! The sex was outlandish.

You challenged him because you wanted him to do something sexual with you and he wouldn’t? Or he tried something you didn’t like?

If you don’t want to talk to him about it then don’t! Carry on as you are, it seems to be working. But also, don’t close yourself off too much because of fear, or cynicism, or whatever else it might be. And honestly, that’s coming from a very cynical person!

And who know, his massive Catholic family might be amazing, and give you a positive experience of family.

Have you had therapy OP? I know it’s been a rough few years.

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 22:04

CinnamonJellyBeans · 12/05/2026 21:57

Keep things as they are. It suits you both, right now. It sounds ideal.

Don't send him the song, he's vulnerable due to bereavement and that's not fair.

You shouldn't assume, he's a cheater, just because he's done it before (or faithful, if he had never cheated). If you do decide you want to become a couple, don't deprive yourself of this chance, just because another man behaved badly to you.

No, that's a good point. I won't send it.

I'm not going to risk being hurt. Maybe he wouldn't cheat on me if we got serious, but I'm not going to find out.

I guess we'll just carry on as we were, with the added discomfort for me that I no longer feel as independent of him as I did.

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NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:58

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 21:46

Right, the sex maniac bit is obviously a slight concern! 😂 How serious is this fear?

But, you say you ‘reckon’, you don’t actually know. I think once the dust settles, particularly with his bereavement which is still raw, this definitely deserves a further conversation don’t you think? Can you talk to him openly, tell him you think you might be catching feelings and you need to 1) know where you stand right now (is he sleeping with others, how does he view you etc) and 2) what does ‘more’ look like to you both. he’s obviously thought about it if he’s telling you he loves you. Has he said he wants more?

Think about things very seriously yourself before talking to him. What does ‘more’ look like for you ideally? Is it monogamy? Is it going to ‘couples’ events together I.e. with friends, family, work etc.? Is it maybe looking at living together in the future? (Sounds like you’d be allergic?) whatever it is.

Really take the time to figure out what outcome you want here in an ideal world - do you know?

Re. sex maniac, he's massively into kink but says he can live without it. I actually challenged him once and he wouldn't do stuff to me that he's done in other relationships. I think I'm in the good-girl box. I'm just relieved he doesn't own a cattle prod, honestly.

The idea of getting involved with his truly massive Catholic family is enough to bring me out in hives. I've had a skinful of families. Mine were very stressful and my in-laws weren't much better. Family - the other F word.

I don't think I want to talk to him. I want these feelings to go away.

No to living together. I'd rather nail my clitoris to the ceiling.

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CinnamonJellyBeans · 12/05/2026 21:57

Keep things as they are. It suits you both, right now. It sounds ideal.

Don't send him the song, he's vulnerable due to bereavement and that's not fair.

You shouldn't assume, he's a cheater, just because he's done it before (or faithful, if he had never cheated). If you do decide you want to become a couple, don't deprive yourself of this chance, just because another man behaved badly to you.

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:53

BoarBrush · 12/05/2026 21:51

Ah fuck it, send the shite song. And throw caution to the wind. You can't keep folk at arms length forever, get stuck in.

I can't send the "shite song" now that everyone's said how terrible it is and that I'll cringe about it to my dying day!

Oooh, maybe it'll put him off though, and then problem solved!

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BoarBrush · 12/05/2026 21:51

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:38

Why's it crap though??? No one's been able to tell me!

This thread is so British! OP wants to send a man a weepy song and everyone's like "Fuck me, that's a pile of shit!" 🤣

This guy is a drummer in a band, too!!! Musicians...wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Sorry that that happened to you.

Ah fuck it, send the shite song. And throw caution to the wind. You can't keep folk at arms length forever, get stuck in.

TellHerToFuckOff · 12/05/2026 21:46

NameChangeMay2026 · 12/05/2026 21:34

I've only slept with him, although not for want of trying. I tried to find others, and told him I was doing so, but the couple I found who I liked the look of ruined it by getting too sexual too soon. Then my dad was diagnosed, and so I haven't tried since then. He was ill for two years and then we had the stress of the estate and house, and I'm still recovering from all that.

He has been supportive, yes. With both of my parents' terminal cancer illnesses, some friends ran an absolute mile, but not him.

I don't believe he hasn't slept with other people. I was often away caring for my dad, and I reckon he's a sex maniac. Which is why he's so good at it.

I don't want more, it's just that my feelings have come to the surface and surprised me. I could date others, but I'm now at that wretched stage where I'd probably just compare them all to him. Arghhhhhhhhh!

Edited

Right, the sex maniac bit is obviously a slight concern! 😂 How serious is this fear?

But, you say you ‘reckon’, you don’t actually know. I think once the dust settles, particularly with his bereavement which is still raw, this definitely deserves a further conversation don’t you think? Can you talk to him openly, tell him you think you might be catching feelings and you need to 1) know where you stand right now (is he sleeping with others, how does he view you etc) and 2) what does ‘more’ look like to you both. he’s obviously thought about it if he’s telling you he loves you. Has he said he wants more?

Think about things very seriously yourself before talking to him. What does ‘more’ look like for you ideally? Is it monogamy? Is it going to ‘couples’ events together I.e. with friends, family, work etc.? Is it maybe looking at living together in the future? (Sounds like you’d be allergic?) whatever it is.

Really take the time to figure out what outcome you want here in an ideal world - do you know?