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To not reprimand staff for not smiling?

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squashedalmondcroissant · 12/05/2026 17:37

I work as a manager in a catering/hospitality business, small local chain.

I had a call from a senior staff member about a negative review we were given online that essentially said they didn’t feel that the staff member on duty (not me) was smiley enough. I have now been tasked with pulling up this staff member on this.

I am very much not someone who is easily offended or quick to jump to misogyny but something about this feels..irritating to me. (The person complaining was a man and all the staff are women). They didn’t say the staff were rude, unpleasant or ignored them, just that were weren’t smiley and ‘welcoming’. I know the staff member and they are always polite and helpful but they do have a bit of a ‘resting bitch face’ when not intentionally grinning like a Cheshire Cat!

Something about this is rubbing me up the wrong way. It seems the main complaint is the staff not smiling while doing her job perfectly competently. Should I reprimand her for this? I understand that when customer facing sometimes you need to fake it a bit but is just her natural face position so offensive to someone that she should be forced to plaster on a fake smile? I’m torn!

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SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:51

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:49

See I would argue that there’s a big difference between “not being smiley” and “being sullen”. I agree that sullen people are not what you want to see in a service environment.

But either way, part of the review was that they weren't welcoming.

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:49

Flamingojune · 12/05/2026 17:47

I like both men and women smiling. Sullen men are just as unwelcoming

See I would argue that there’s a big difference between “not being smiley” and “being sullen”. I agree that sullen people are not what you want to see in a service environment.

SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:48

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:45

I don’t understand, you don’t like their faces?

Lol of course you don't 'understand' 🙄

You said "People really don’t like women who don’t smile at them".

And I replied "I feel the same about men who serve or 'welcome' me."

What's confused you enough to think I 'don't like their faces'?

Manyleaves · 12/05/2026 17:47

Is it actually possible to be polite and welcoming without smiling? If you're doing a job that involves greeting people and need to fake a smile, you probably should do something else.

I agree with PP, approach it as coaching, not reprimand.

Flamingojune · 12/05/2026 17:47

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:41

I was always getting in trouble for this during my student waitressing days. People really don’t like women who don’t smile at them, it doesn’t matter how friendly you are. I couldn’t bring myself to fake smile at people (I mean, why would you smile for no reason?) so it was a recurring issue. Shame they just didn’t like my face 🤷‍♀️

I like both men and women smiling. Sullen men are just as unwelcoming

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 12/05/2026 17:47

Don't say
"Aright love, give us a smile, customers don't like to see a face like a slapped arse"

Do say
"We've had some customer feedback relating to how welcomed they felt when they visited. It's very important to the business that all customers are made to feel welcome, could I ask you to reflect on how they might be perceiving you"

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:45

SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:42

I feel the same about men who serve or 'welcome' me.

I don’t understand, you don’t like their faces?

TipsyLaird · 12/05/2026 17:44

I am a mystery shopper for hospitality businesses. On nearly every report there is one question about your welcome and whether the member of staff was genuine, or going through the motions. Businesses expect to be told if a member of staff was surly, or had "resting bitch face" or anything else which made the welcome poor.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/05/2026 17:43

Mammabear23 · 12/05/2026 17:41

Can you not just mention it in a whole staff meeting as a point of feedback to everyone to ensure when customers are about smile like you enjoy being there. Then it's not targeted.

This.

SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:42

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:41

I was always getting in trouble for this during my student waitressing days. People really don’t like women who don’t smile at them, it doesn’t matter how friendly you are. I couldn’t bring myself to fake smile at people (I mean, why would you smile for no reason?) so it was a recurring issue. Shame they just didn’t like my face 🤷‍♀️

I feel the same about men who serve or 'welcome' me.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 12/05/2026 17:42

You know your staff. If you have observed them undertaking their role happily and efficiently, then say that to your manager. Not “smiley enough” is subjective and I’m with you on its possible meaning. Probably means not giggly and fawning enough! I’d definitely say to your manager that the staff are meeting requirements and receive tips and praise (I’m sure they must!). This far outweighs one stupid comment.

SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:42

And also why would you jump to 'reprimand' rather than 'quiet word' or 'reminder'?

I do think you're overthinking it.

Mammabear23 · 12/05/2026 17:41

Can you not just mention it in a whole staff meeting as a point of feedback to everyone to ensure when customers are about smile like you enjoy being there. Then it's not targeted.

SleepingDogsLie · 12/05/2026 17:41

I was always getting in trouble for this during my student waitressing days. People really don’t like women who don’t smile at them, it doesn’t matter how friendly you are. I couldn’t bring myself to fake smile at people (I mean, why would you smile for no reason?) so it was a recurring issue. Shame they just didn’t like my face 🤷‍♀️

Manyleaves · 12/05/2026 17:41

I was trained to "smile you're on the telephone" years ago, and men got the same training. It really does make a difference to how warm you come across, even when someone can't see the smile.

SwanRivers · 12/05/2026 17:40

You're fixated on the 'smiley' when you should be concentrating on the 'not welcoming enough'.

I've worked with the public for 40+ years and being welcoming (which does involve smiling) is all part of the job.

For someone to take the time and effort to review, they must have not felt very welcomed by them.

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