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AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 11:20

AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

  • 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
  • Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
  • Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
  • Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
  • Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 12:56

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 12:55

women do drag too - as kings and queens

men are not an oppressed class

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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 12:56

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:53

I also think that it's women who enjoy things like drag race not heterosexual men.
So what's OP got to say about that? Cause I don't know a single man who watches it. Not even gay men.

I'm very gender critical for what it's worth.

As long as when the clothes and make-up come off the performer and he's NOT claiming to be a woman, I'm OK with drag.

Women also fought against the suffragettes.
Women also blame rape victims for wearing the wrong clothes or taking the wrong route home.
Women also have internalised misogyny.

That's not new news.

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Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:55

Upstartled · 12/05/2026 12:39

What if there were an audience who found it entertaining? What if it were televised by the nation's broadcaster, so that you could not avoid your licence fee going towards it and registering your protest by turning it off made no difference?

Again an irrelevant question. It was taken off air years ago because of the racist connotations. I was only a kid when it was broadcast and I had no interest in it at all

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 12:55

women do drag too - as kings and queens

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:53

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:24

Drag shows are very popular entertainment. The proper professional Drag queen's arent pretending be women, they are playing a part.
If you dont want to see it on TV there is an off button to switch it off

I also think that it's women who enjoy things like drag race not heterosexual men.
So what's OP got to say about that? Cause I don't know a single man who watches it. Not even gay men.

I'm very gender critical for what it's worth.

As long as when the clothes and make-up come off the performer and he's NOT claiming to be a woman, I'm OK with drag.

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:53

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:52

No worries, it's an emotive topic x

I also got easily confused as the OP seemed to drastically misunderstand me, so I thought you had as well. OP, I can’t answer a question about an opinion that isn’t even mine. You’d have to directly ask the people who have that opinion. 👍

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:52

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:51

Apologies. Fair enough.

No worries, it's an emotive topic x

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:51

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:44

You're being over sensitive. I am on your side. I am agreeing with you. I quoted you to expand on your point.

Apologies. Fair enough.

OtterlyAstounding · 12/05/2026 12:50

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:46

I think that it's one hell of a leap to say that Les Dawson, Paul O'Grady, Barry Humphries and those two guys who played Hinge and Bracket are somehow responsible for men raping women.

And no I don't think that white women dressing up as black women is the same, either.

People from the oppressor class dressing up as caricatures of the class that is currently being discriminated against and has historically been oppressed, and aping their stereotyped behaviour - whether through a negative or positive lens - is distasteful and inappropriate.

It's as simple as that, really.

AudHvamm · 12/05/2026 12:50

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/05/2026 11:50

I don’t really understand your ‘women are oppressed by men’ list in relation to drag - by that logic surely you’d think men need banning from main stream tv. I haven’t clicked your link though

Do you really not see a connection between those societal power dynamics and the use of "humour" to degrade and shame women?

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 12:49

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:46

I think that it's one hell of a leap to say that Les Dawson, Paul O'Grady, Barry Humphries and those two guys who played Hinge and Bracket are somehow responsible for men raping women.

And no I don't think that white women dressing up as black women is the same, either.

Then you don't understand what the term sex class means then, or basic comprehension because no one on this thread has blamed an individual for anything.

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pepayfelix · 12/05/2026 12:49

It’s no different to blackface IMO. But if you don’t laugh along you’re seen as uptight. YANBU.

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 12:49

Also allowing gay men to get away with saying things about women straight men couldn't get away with - it’s like it slips in another way

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:48

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:46

I think that it's one hell of a leap to say that Les Dawson, Paul O'Grady, Barry Humphries and those two guys who played Hinge and Bracket are somehow responsible for men raping women.

And no I don't think that white women dressing up as black women is the same, either.

They are contributing to the degradation of women
Which then leads to a more misogynistic society.
Which then leads to more attacks on women

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 12:47

I don’t have time to read the post but wanted to say - thank goodness someone else thinks so

I can’t believe the bbc are so hooked on drag - complete mysogeny in my book

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 12:46

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 12:07

The things I listed are things that happen to women by men as a sex class.

That same sex class is on main stream TV depicting women as a sum of a pair of tits and milk squirting from them for laughs.

I'd like to ask if you think it would be ok for white women to dress up on main stream TV and mock/parody black women in an inaccurate stereotype of how some white women see black women for laughs? Because that is exactly what this is.

I think that it's one hell of a leap to say that Les Dawson, Paul O'Grady, Barry Humphries and those two guys who played Hinge and Bracket are somehow responsible for men raping women.

And no I don't think that white women dressing up as black women is the same, either.

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 12:45

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:29

Perhaps they did switch off the minstrel show. Thats their prerogative

And how do you think Black people felt whilst it was showing and white people were enjoying the parody of the then oppressed group for fun.

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MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:44

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:40

When did I say they’re punching sideways or that punching sideways is acceptable? So why quote me?

You're being over sensitive. I am on your side. I am agreeing with you. I quoted you to expand on your point.

Pickstah · 12/05/2026 12:44

I think it’s very telling that b&w minstrels have been cancelled whilst Drag rages on unchallenged. The voices calling against racism get listened to, the voices calling against mysogyny get ignored. Drag is the equivalent of blackface.

OtterlyAstounding · 12/05/2026 12:43

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:35

Irrelevant question, The minstrel show is no longer broadcast on TV

I'll take that as a yes, given your previous comments.

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:40

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:33

I think you've missed understood me
I'm not saying they're punching sideways
I'm saying that even if they were it would still be unacceptable

When did I say they’re punching sideways or that punching sideways is acceptable? So why quote me?

Upstartled · 12/05/2026 12:39

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:35

Irrelevant question, The minstrel show is no longer broadcast on TV

What if there were an audience who found it entertaining? What if it were televised by the nation's broadcaster, so that you could not avoid your licence fee going towards it and registering your protest by turning it off made no difference?

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 12:35

OtterlyAstounding · 12/05/2026 12:32

So just to be clear, you don't have an issue with either drag, or minstrel shows being broadcast?

Irrelevant question, The minstrel show is no longer broadcast on TV

HeyThereDelila · 12/05/2026 12:34

YANBU. It is revolting woman hatred.

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · 12/05/2026 12:33

DilettanteRedRagger · 12/05/2026 12:28

You seem to have grossly misunderstood me.

My point: they think they’re punching sideways, but they’re actually punching downwards. So yes, it would be exactly like a white woman mocking a black woman. It’s a power dynamic. Hope this clarifies it for @MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes as well?

I think you've missed understood me
I'm not saying they're punching sideways
I'm saying that even if they were it would still be unacceptable