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AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 11:20

AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

  • 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
  • Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
  • Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
  • Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
  • Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
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Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:52

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:30

This is not AI

Drag race

Gosh that jimbo thing is hideous

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:51

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:08

yes. that is, it's being questioned.

not by the group that are doing the oppressing and wider society

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:30

Monty36 · 12/05/2026 16:20

Not sure I believe some of those images. And that they are not AI and entirely exaggerated.

Normal drag such as Dame Edna. No. I don’t find it offensive. I found Dame Edna hilarious.

This is not AI

Drag race

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy5lW7vmIYk

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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:22

Monty36 · 12/05/2026 16:20

Not sure I believe some of those images. And that they are not AI and entirely exaggerated.

Normal drag such as Dame Edna. No. I don’t find it offensive. I found Dame Edna hilarious.

Did you look at my link?

Thos images are still from a video in case people don't have twitter.

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Monty36 · 12/05/2026 16:20

Not sure I believe some of those images. And that they are not AI and entirely exaggerated.

Normal drag such as Dame Edna. No. I don’t find it offensive. I found Dame Edna hilarious.

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:14

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:10

can I then gently suggest that your thread might have been more useful elsewhere

Gently 😂

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StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:10

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:09

Unfortunately, women can talk about these things until they are blue in the face but nothing will change until men call it out too.

Just like the suffragettes, they needed men onside to make it happen unfortunately.

can I then gently suggest that your thread might have been more useful elsewhere

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 16:09

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:04

what do you think is happening on this thread then?

Unfortunately, women can talk about these things until they are blue in the face but nothing will change until men call it out too.

Just like the suffragettes, they needed men onside to make it happen unfortunately.

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StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:08

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:06

The women that feel oppressed by it are talking about it and saying what they think

Edited

yes. that is, it's being questioned.

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:06

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:04

what do you think is happening on this thread then?

The women that feel oppressed by it are talking about it and saying what they think

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 12/05/2026 16:06

It’s nasty misogynistic shite whoever does it.

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 16:04

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:03

It’s being questioned yes among the very group that it oppresses but not amongst the oppressor

heterosexual men were getting away with it and then it was questioned but I beg to differ anyone is questioning gay male presenters on tv doing continuing to do the same

what do you think is happening on this thread then?

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:03

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 15:42

but it can be questioned, it is being questioned right here in this thread as we speak, it has been questioned for decades. No one is stopping anyone from saying they don't like drag.

It’s being questioned yes among the very group that it oppresses but not amongst the oppressor

heterosexual men were getting away with it and then it was questioned but I beg to differ anyone is questioning gay male presenters on tv doing continuing to do the same

CarbootJunction · 12/05/2026 16:02

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 11:59

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough.

When you have a sex class (men) that are statistically a danger to the other sex class (women) and part of that danger is the fact that many men see women through their own lens of a collection of body parts for their own gain.
For example we know that at least 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime simply because they are biologically women.

When men dress as women and grotequely depict women's body parts and bodily functions as something to laugh about I think the comedy is steeped in misogyny.

Visual comedy has always been steeped in misogyny.

Les Dawson, dressed as a middle-aged woman, gurning over a garden fence, hoiking up one fake boob as he slags off someone.
Benny Hill chasing scantily clad young women around.
Kenny Everett, dressed as a woman, crossing and uncrossing his legs, wearing massive fake boobs.
The Two Ronnies - about 50% of what they did was misogynistic.
YADNBU

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 16:00

QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 15:52

Whatever. It's misogyny, BTW, not mysogeny.
If you're going to be insulting, at least spell it right.

I can’t spell very well but you knew very well what I meant

there was no rudeness in the post - just a suggested answer to your questions

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 15:56

SauvignonBlancLady · 12/05/2026 15:44

It’s literally called ‘drag race’
its on late at night
its about drag queens

That's correct. Thanks.

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sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 15:53

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 15:34

I found Paul Grady etc just as offensive and all the other “potentially acceptable” others sending up women

they are not dressed as normal women they are like gross characatures - we wouldn’t accept that in a cartoon

Yes agreed.

Lily Savage was just another example of a man impersonating a woman and resorting to making jokes about issues with 'used' female anatomy.

For example
Jokes about Lily being a surrogate and then continuing into a diatribe about how 'she'd' had 18 babies for lesbian couples in three years. And talking about still having a womb and due to so many babies they just 'shot out' and had to her pelvic floor laminated.....

Then going on about walking in the cold and her nipples being like bullets and so on and so on.
Jokes about rohypnol etc....referring to women as mutton

All in one interview.

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QuintadosMalvados · 12/05/2026 15:52

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 13:10

Maybe it’s the internalised mysogeny

Whatever. It's misogyny, BTW, not mysogeny.
If you're going to be insulting, at least spell it right.

VikingLady · 12/05/2026 15:46

It’s blackface for women. An exaggerated version of everything they despise about us.

SauvignonBlancLady · 12/05/2026 15:44

It’s literally called ‘drag race’
its on late at night
its about drag queens

StarlingWaters · 12/05/2026 15:42

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 15:30

It’s a way to sneak in the agenda - bbc so guilty of this - heterosexual men can’t say it in public anymore - same with drag queens sending up women

because it’s a gay man it can’t be questioned

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but it can be questioned, it is being questioned right here in this thread as we speak, it has been questioned for decades. No one is stopping anyone from saying they don't like drag.

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 15:34

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 14:35

No but The Dick Emery show was steeped in sexism.

Someones dressed as an old man leering over young women, scenes with him dressed as a woman surrounded by school girls in a gym and falling on top them or patting their arses with a wry little pervy look towards the camera.

Grim but typical of the carry on style 'humour' of the 60's and 70's but would not be seen as ok nowadays.

I also think that these older style 'drag' artists or female impersonators back in those times all had elements of portraying an older woman who was desperate for a shag. Pretty misogynistic really, woman left on the shelf needing sex but too old to get it type stuff.

I found Paul Grady etc just as offensive and all the other “potentially acceptable” others sending up women

they are not dressed as normal women they are like gross characatures - we wouldn’t accept that in a cartoon

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 15:30

Naunet · 12/05/2026 15:00

Apparently we're all meant to find objectification and misogyny absolutely hilarious when its gay men doing it for some reason. Not sure why that is.

It’s a way to sneak in the agenda - bbc so guilty of this - heterosexual men can’t say it in public anymore - same with drag queens sending up women

because it’s a gay man it can’t be questioned

Millymollymandy4 · 12/05/2026 15:28

Dollymylove · 12/05/2026 15:07

I am not responsible for what people find offensive and neither are my children. I never said drag was acceptable but there are plenty of shows going on and plenty of women attend them and find them funny. Like I said, if people want it banned they need to join a protest and lobby the government to ban it

why do we need the govt need to ban it

im hearing you as very dismissive - it’s all in a neat box - well it isn’t - it’s complex

society need to reject it

as we already said women attend because they have internalised the mysogeny - don’t know why you felt the need to repeat that

sanctuaryyi · 12/05/2026 15:17

A UK drag tour targeted primarily at audiences aged 14 and up is raising safeguarding concerns due to the highly graphic nature of the performer’s usual events.

Insell, 40, is a Canadian national who rose to notoriety after participating in Canada’s Drag Race in 2020 and RuPaul’s Drag Race: UK Versus the World in 2022. He utilizes multiple drag personas as part of his acts, many of which will reportedly be seen at the 14+ events if the event poster is any indication.

Some of Insell’s various personas appear in the video, including Casper the Baloney Ghost and his signature drag character, which utilizes a head-to-toe prosthetic “female body,” complete with comically large breasts. In a photo of the suit posted to social media earlier this year, the suit is also seen to have a faux-vulva.

from 2023

AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?
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