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AIBU to take my Year 7 daughter's smartphone away completely?

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ExasperatedIs · 12/05/2026 08:55

I’m just sooo fed up of issues with my DD12 and her phone. She’s in Y7 at school and since she started her behaviour has been shocking and she’s always in trouble at school for attitude, being disruptive and late, makeup etc. Her attitude has been off the rails lately.
Anyway, onto her phone. I have had all the restrictions on it - screen time, not allowed to download apps, clean content etc, and she has managed to change this sooo many times. She has been trusted with WhatsApp before but my DB partner had seen disturbing status’s with her posing in a bra (my push up bra!), lip synching to music, crying, various attention seeking posts and she had hidden them from all our family forgetting to hide from her - so we had the discussion again about inappropriate things etc and removed what’s app, months later we let her have it again. Then similar things happened with snap chat and tik tok which she mithered to death to have so thought ok let’s see if she can be trusted and keep her word (promises about not posting pics and videos of herself etc) then again she was posting, attention seeking posts etc) so we talked about why she was too young to have them and using them inappropriately and hadn’t listened so had to wait until she older to have them.
Anyway yesterday I see she has two detentions at school already on a Monday for being late to two lessons. When she came home I said she couldn’t have her phone that evening. When I looked at her phone I could see she had been on it til midnight talking to her ‘boyfriend’ after bragging she had the screentime passcode and could alter her screentime, waiting until I go to bed, and she’s even pretending to be going to sleep when I go to her! She had actually stolen her dad’s phone and got the screentime code from a message I sent it to him. She had also downloaded Tik Tok again and posting videos and pics - posing in mirrors, lied in bed with push up bra on, etc etc. Also saw in her phone videos actually in lessons (phones aren’t allowed on school!) and she had posted pictures actually in school toilets so explains the lateness! So that’s it, I’ve had enough now. No matter what I’ve tried - restrictions, no restrictions, trusting her over and over again, explaining things, she just doesn’t listen and continues to be sneaky, lie and take no notice. Last night she refused to eat because I had taken her phone then said she will tell school I’m starving her! I just feel totally exasperated by it all. Not sure if anyone else in a similar boat and gone smart phone free? How have you managed it? Sorry for the waffle ! I just feel so upset at the level of disrespect and disregard. Nothing seems to sink in with her 😩

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LameBorzoi · 13/05/2026 23:47

dewthere · 13/05/2026 17:32

I don't understand why not teach the child to manage having a phone? Keeping a close eye on things, checking messages every evening, phones downstairs at all times. They're switched off and out of sight at most schools.

OP's child has psycho social problems, these must be tackled, else she will fall in with the wrong crowd, county lines, alcohol vaping, and even teenage pregnancy. Taking the phone away improves certain things but doesn't actually help dd manage things.

What is your dd's father and what is their relationship like? Is he distant and demanding or warm and approachable? Does she enjoy any clubs at school? Please considering signing her up for something, anything, guides, scouts, cadets, drama club, coding, sailing, dance whatever. Does she have any interests other than boys?

Taking the phone away is not enough, believe me, girls find ways, they use their friends' phones to communicate with boys, meet up in secret.

Install a ring camera so you know if she leaves the house at night. Keep your dd close. Talk to her A LOT.

Teach skills, yes, but 12 is just too young to manage a smartphone. At this age, you teach them to ride a bike, not give them the keys to your Ford Ranger. And if the kid is determined to get around checking messages, they will.

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 20:04

dewthere · 13/05/2026 19:56

Will the school help if this isn't school related?

Yes they will. It's a safeguarding issue and is of very serious concern.

dewthere · 13/05/2026 19:56

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 19:51

I am sorry to hear that, how dreadful. I think it's important though that you do refer it to the SL, though .You don't fully know what she's been accessing, or what lead to this.

Will the school help if this isn't school related?

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 19:51

ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 19:04

I really don’t know, she had posted them on her tick tok which I had found and I looked at the comments and all from girls like 🔥🔥🔥, you’re beautiful etc. I have spoken to her a lot and I don’t think she is being groomed. I was groomed as a 13 / 14 yr old by a 28 yr old man so I have major insecurity about this on always been on high alert because of it.

I am sorry to hear that, how dreadful. I think it's important though that you do refer it to the SL, though .You don't fully know what she's been accessing, or what lead to this.

FlyingApple · 13/05/2026 19:19

Sounds like she's become peer orientated.

ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 19:04

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 17:03

That's really positive, but I was specifically referring to the sexualised images.

I really don’t know, she had posted them on her tick tok which I had found and I looked at the comments and all from girls like 🔥🔥🔥, you’re beautiful etc. I have spoken to her a lot and I don’t think she is being groomed. I was groomed as a 13 / 14 yr old by a 28 yr old man so I have major insecurity about this on always been on high alert because of it.

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independentfriend · 13/05/2026 18:52

Try starting with the assumption that someone is grooming her into making and sending the semi clothed pictures. Don't categorise it as bad behaviour she's 100% responsible for until you've investigated who might have been asking for these images or if it really is a group of girls who all do this which one started it / is the ringleader - that child may well be being abused.

Somebody might be threatening her / trying to blackmail her over the semi clothed photos. You need to be a safe person who can help her get out of the situation rather than a person who is just cross about the photos.

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dewthere · 13/05/2026 17:51

Accidentally replied this to @RominaDina

@ExasperatedIs What is your dd's father and what is their relationship like? Is he distant and demanding or warm and approachable? Does she enjoy any clubs at school? Please considering signing her up for something, anything, guides, scouts, cadets, drama club, coding, sailing, dance whatever. Does she have any interests other than boys?
Taking the phone away is not enough, believe me, girls find ways, they use their friends' phones to communicate with boys, meet up in secret.
Install a ring camera so you know if she leaves the house at night. Keep your dd close. Talk to her A LOT.

dewthere · 13/05/2026 17:49

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 17:47

I think those questions are best directed at the OP, not me.

Oh yes.

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 17:47

dewthere · 13/05/2026 17:32

I don't understand why not teach the child to manage having a phone? Keeping a close eye on things, checking messages every evening, phones downstairs at all times. They're switched off and out of sight at most schools.

OP's child has psycho social problems, these must be tackled, else she will fall in with the wrong crowd, county lines, alcohol vaping, and even teenage pregnancy. Taking the phone away improves certain things but doesn't actually help dd manage things.

What is your dd's father and what is their relationship like? Is he distant and demanding or warm and approachable? Does she enjoy any clubs at school? Please considering signing her up for something, anything, guides, scouts, cadets, drama club, coding, sailing, dance whatever. Does she have any interests other than boys?

Taking the phone away is not enough, believe me, girls find ways, they use their friends' phones to communicate with boys, meet up in secret.

Install a ring camera so you know if she leaves the house at night. Keep your dd close. Talk to her A LOT.

I think those questions are best directed at the OP, not me.

dewthere · 13/05/2026 17:32

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 16:51

Good parenting 💯

I don't understand why not teach the child to manage having a phone? Keeping a close eye on things, checking messages every evening, phones downstairs at all times. They're switched off and out of sight at most schools.

OP's child has psycho social problems, these must be tackled, else she will fall in with the wrong crowd, county lines, alcohol vaping, and even teenage pregnancy. Taking the phone away improves certain things but doesn't actually help dd manage things.

What is your dd's father and what is their relationship like? Is he distant and demanding or warm and approachable? Does she enjoy any clubs at school? Please considering signing her up for something, anything, guides, scouts, cadets, drama club, coding, sailing, dance whatever. Does she have any interests other than boys?

Taking the phone away is not enough, believe me, girls find ways, they use their friends' phones to communicate with boys, meet up in secret.

Install a ring camera so you know if she leaves the house at night. Keep your dd close. Talk to her A LOT.

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 17:03

ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 17:02

Yes she has a key worker at school and is having sessions weekly for how to manage her emotions as well.

That's really positive, but I was specifically referring to the sexualised images.

ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 17:02

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 16:51

Have you made an appointment to see the Safeguarding Lead? Their intervention will be very helpful and supportive. They can give you advice on other matters, too.

Yes she has a key worker at school and is having sessions weekly for how to manage her emotions as well.

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RominaDina · 13/05/2026 16:51

OneShyQuail · 13/05/2026 15:19

My daughter occasionally moans at how strict i am compared to other mums.

I dont care. And a lot of it is exageration. You are going to hear a lot of "but my friends have this, my friends do that" over the next few years...

you need to know what your boundaries, morals and standpoints are as a parent and stick to them.

If my daughter said "im left out im the wierd one" id just say "im sorry you feel that way but at least your safe".

Yes I get pushbacks occasionally but she bloody knows im stubborn and I mean what I say.

If she wants rewards/treats/taken to her clubs she tries her best at school, is polite and respectful, does her homework/revision and helps me round the house.....same rules since she was 4 🤷‍♀️

Consistency is key

Good parenting 💯

RominaDina · 13/05/2026 16:51

Have you made an appointment to see the Safeguarding Lead? Their intervention will be very helpful and supportive. They can give you advice on other matters, too.

OneShyQuail · 13/05/2026 15:19

My daughter occasionally moans at how strict i am compared to other mums.

I dont care. And a lot of it is exageration. You are going to hear a lot of "but my friends have this, my friends do that" over the next few years...

you need to know what your boundaries, morals and standpoints are as a parent and stick to them.

If my daughter said "im left out im the wierd one" id just say "im sorry you feel that way but at least your safe".

Yes I get pushbacks occasionally but she bloody knows im stubborn and I mean what I say.

If she wants rewards/treats/taken to her clubs she tries her best at school, is polite and respectful, does her homework/revision and helps me round the house.....same rules since she was 4 🤷‍♀️

Consistency is key

ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 13:59

Usernamenotav · 12/05/2026 13:43

The last sentence got me 'i feel so upset with the level disrespect'
Ermmm how about feeling upset that your 12 year old seems to be so desperate for attention and putting herself into risky situations?? Attention seeking is usually attention needing.

Believe me she’s had attention!! She was a Velcro baby and practiced attachment parenting! She literally only stopped getting up in the night and getting into our bed about 2 years ago. Had a nightmare getting her to sleep on her own for years.

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ExasperatedIs · 13/05/2026 13:55

Justusethebloodyphone · 13/05/2026 10:22

My DD has some of these behaviours (she’s now at uni). She had low self esteem despite everything being seemingly great about her life. She was diagnosed with ADHD and was struggling in so many ways which weren’t obvious to anyone else (we were aware). Her phone and anything related to it gave her instant dopamine hits constantly and something to hyper focus on. Medication and therapy helped and I feel very fortunate that we were able to afford it.

There could be many reasons for the behaviour. I’m just giving you one because it’s very easy to be outraged, not so easy to be that parent.

I do suspect this and have for a while as he has lots of other traits. We have a meeting on Monday for an assessment with Cahms and I’ve told Cahms about everything I’ve said here. Believe me I’m doing all I can and have taken the phone away so many times, pit solid restrictions on but she always manages to sneakily bypass them and go behind my back so yes, the smartphone is gone now for the forseable future and we are addressing other concerns with Cahms.

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wingsandstrings · 13/05/2026 12:44

Why not just only let her have the smart phone when she's in the same room as you, or some other formula that means she can't take dodgy photos and is unlikely to be viewing bad content? Letting her have a phone is one thing, but letting her have a phone in her room or a phone that you don't physically confiscate at night is madness at this age imho. Until age 15 my DD could only use her smart phone in the living room and when travelling to and from school. Other than that the phone was to be in a specific place in the kitchen. Around yr8 all social activities started to be organised on snap chat so she would have been quite isolated without being able to check it and chat with her friends on snap. But this way i felt like i had control over how it was being used. Obviously i had control of screen time and content through passwords from my phone as well.

elliejjtiny · 13/05/2026 12:25

I have boys so might be different but my son the same age as your dd doesn't have a phone at all. He has an old shared tablet with no wifi and the family computer.

Justusethebloodyphone · 13/05/2026 12:07

dewthere · 13/05/2026 10:39

Definitely not judging, these girls are vulnerable and need help. I can see how Adhd can be a contributing factor. In the case of the girl we know, that is unlikely though. I imagine some grow out of this phase as hormones settle. Some might have viewed inappropriate content /porn unbeknownst to their parents. I am just curious what other factors play into it when a girl is well brought up and all great throughout primary school. Phones and social media play a part but it's a symptom not the cause. Why do some girl go all boy mad lapping up any kind of male attention regardless of suitability and age. This is also a feminist issue, as I hate to think of these teenagers giving up all their power to the male gaze. The girl I know brags about her escapades.

Totally not to do with the Op as I wasn’t suggesting her daughter may have ADHD just pointing out how easy it is to be outraged.

But anyway you seriously can have no idea whether a person does not have ADHD, it can be easier to tell that they do. Many very successful and outwardly ‘together’ people have it.

domenica1 · 13/05/2026 12:02

At all our schools, smart phones are now banned until the kids are older; these are recent policies given the damage it seems to be doing to teens. Yanbu

Pinkpony123 · 13/05/2026 11:58

Year 7 it's an age group which is 11 turning 12 not a 7 year old!

Snippit · 13/05/2026 10:57

Our daughter is now 30, so one of the first generation to be exposed to mobile phones. All I can say is that it was a bloody nightmare, an addiction. After one really dangerous act of bad behaviour we took the phone off her and gave no return date, it was like watching a drug withdrawal. She kept asking if she could have it back, but we refused until her behaviour changed, it was over a month before returning it.

We now know she has an addictive personality and is still glued to her bloody phone. This tech has definitely had an affect on her mentality, shockingly so. It’s now even worse, we never bought her a contract phone to her disgust, as according to her everyone else had one, yeah right.

It really isn’t easy and is destroying their childhoods. Back in the mid 90’s I worked for BT. To apply for an action man mobile phone you had to be over 18, have a landline and a credit check. I’m absolutely shocked at how easy it is now. More money for the unscrupulous tech billionaires at the expense of our childrens sanity, it’s abhorrent.

I completely feel your frustrations, it just isn’t easy. They’re exposed to so much at a young age. A medic once told me that they class someone an adolescent up to the age of 25, they’re scrambling their brain development in an unhealthy way, 😢