To try and get my Dad back to the UK so he can die here

This is not the thread for the usual MN GP/NHS bashing. Read the sodding room.

He's not moving abroad FGS he's coming home. I despair. He is entitled to NHS care/GP registration from the day he sets foot in the UK.

I work for NHS Scotland because we provide health care at the point of need to all who need it regardless of their circumstances, no questions asked.
If it turns out after they’ve received the care that they are abusing the system whatever the hell that means so be it and maybe some pen pusher will chase them or their country of origin up for cost of the care but this doesn’t mean that at the point of need they won’t receive what the care they need.
This is how it should be.

Jesus, there is so much ignorance out there about the special, completely FREE provision for end of life care at home.

My family benefitted from this and I am so very grateful to each of you on this thread who provide such utterly important care. You make such a difference.

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/healthcare-abroad/moving-abroad/planning-your-healthcare/

In all honesty a long haul flight whilst about to start hospice care would be horrendous, not to mention jet lag. It sounds like it’s all been left too late. His wife is unlikely to be able to be able to get into UK by the sounds of the visa situation. I think he needs to accept it’s not gonna happen.

Ironically I have just been to visit a close friend whose husband has recently died. He saw his oncology consultant who say told him he had a couple of weeks left. The wheels were put in motion to support him at home, including macmillan nurses, hospital bed, end of life medication etc. it was 4 days before the health visitor visited closely followed by his GP. He died the day after still waiting for pain relief and support.
18 months ago my stepfather was discharged from A+ E back to his care home on an end of life pathway, the GP carried out a video call via a staff members phone whilst we were in his bedroom. He confirmed that yes, my SF was indeed dying and thought he’d be dead by the following morning. So you’ll forgive my being very angry at the lack of end of life care from GPs. The system is broken.

Sorry for your impending loss

You cant bring him home to die expecting services. , they arent available , its a post code lottery

Mum went into hospital 5th Feb this year, they scanned her that night in A&E and I saw the results. I knew she wasnt coming out, It took the hospital 10 days to call me to see the consultant to get the diagnosis. I asked there and then for hospice care. Got told not end of life, we are getting a care package and discharging. Mum had a driver for a week, a catheter, then that weekend had a heart attack and was bed bound - we are discharging her.

Mum passed 1st March, and we were so very lucky that she spent her last 48hrs on a macmillan unit, because I refused to bring her home,

At home she would have died in agony , there was no carers in place and certainly no macmillan or Marie curie , and without them your hands, and your GP's are tied

Please dont think bringing him home is the best thing for him

Sorry that's not what you want to hear, but that's how the NHS deal with end of life - you have to be very very lucky to get the care and death you want

Op, with love I wouldn’t recommend doing this. It’s too much stress for all of you and the flight home would likely be horrendous. Can you stay with him in the US?

Please stop talking nonsense. Not sure what you experienced or why but the information you are giving is incorrect.
Anyone living in Scotland can access primary care services at a GP practice without charge, regardless of nationality or immigration status. Patients do not need to be "ordinarily resident," so asylum seekers, refugees, students, and those with no fixed address can register. Registration requires no documentation.

Excuse me ! You’re the one who needs to stop.I lived for years abroad and had to go through the process, which I respected , unlike those who didn’t inform the relevant authorities that they were living abroad and flew back and forth for NHS care.

Everyone in England has the right to register and access GP care free of charge, regardless of their immigration status, nationality, or permanent address. This includes, but is not limited to, homeless individuals, gypsies, travelers, and foreign visitors. Registration does not require proof of identity, address, or an NHS number.
I work in wales and it's the same here. Assume Scotland is the same.

Do you live in Scotland?
Do you work in EOL or primary care?
Do you know anything about NHS Scotland?
I recently looked after an Indian man who was dying no one asked him when he arrived here had he paid taxes, if he lived here permanently.
For all I my colleagues and his GP knew he’d arrived here 3 weeks ago never paid a penny in UK taxes and was only here on holiday or maybe he’d lived here all his life was a British citizen and paid taxes at 43%.
No one is interested was dying and needed care and he received it.

As a district nurse I second this. No one needs to die in hospital if home is where they’d prefer

Yes it is. Please stop talking about things you dont know anything about.

You haven't. Please stop.

Exactly this. The level of social media scaremongering and nonsense on this thread is scary.

I have experienced this. It is not nonsense. Plenty abused the system though

unlikely but he can be registered on the day he arrives

What is wrong with people please do not worry the OP with things you clearly know nothing about. NHS Scotland will provide free EOL care to the OPs father regardless of where he has been living and even if he hasn’t contributed a penny in tax in his whole life.

I am not sure you can arrange anything until he gets here. Based on previous experience with a patient who needed to go to Belfast. She needed care package, but it couldn’t be set up
until she arrived. Which basically kiboshed the plan.

I am right in saying that once you live abroad you are not eligible for free NHS care. Only when you move back and can prove you have moved back permanently. I went through the process, having lived abroad myself.,

No advice but wish you all well and well done for trying so hard to support his final wish. 💕

Why are you citing nonsense? Your username is very inappropriate!

Care for EOL patients is provided by staff employed by NHS Scotland the OP doesn’t need to hire someone.