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AIBU to stay in the UK rather than move back to Switzerland?

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Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 16:13

I've been living in the UK for 12 years with my husband and DC . I'm originally from Switzerland, came for Erasmus at uni, met my husband and got a job....the usual! We live in a lovely part of the country in England and are very happy.

However people keep saying to me "surely Switzerland is much better, why would you stay here" etc etc..
I'm starting to think it might be better long term but we're so happy here, my son has lots of friends and we both have good jobs. AIBU to throw it all away? I'm really really scared to mess up the good things we have. I'm from a small alpine valley which is absolutely beautiful but the people can be very very insular and close minded and this bothered me my entire life when living there. I find living in the UK quite freeing. Also job wise it would be difficult. My son is bilingual so that would be fine but I'm afraid he'll find it hard to integrate.

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Seaitoverthere · 11/05/2026 11:30

My neighbour is Swiss. She’s in her 70s and has about 6 or so Swiss friends, all in 70s and 80s I think. We’re not in a particularly big town . None of them have any intention of going back.

Do what works for you.

Swissandconfused · 11/05/2026 11:23

KatiePricesKnickers · 11/05/2026 10:39

The Swiss job market is brutal at the moment.
What job will your husband be looking for? And where?
Don’t forget health insurance for a family will be chf1,000 every month.

He would probably find something though it would mean a long commute if we were to live in my valley(sorry, I feel I've already been quite outing on this thread so don't want to give any more details!)

What worries me most is if we do move and he finds a job, if he for any reason lost that one, there would probably not be much else he could do (as jobs in the industry he works in are not in plentiful supply over there) and then we really have a problem. Plus, our son is so happy here, I would hate it if he potentially wouldn't be over there.

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Swissandconfused · 11/05/2026 11:20

Scarlettjune · 11/05/2026 10:32

You think the British are more open minded and friendly?

All I hear from the people that move to England is: how unfriendly the people are in England. They say that it is really difficult to make friend here. That people are very unwelcoming

Also I do think it massively depends on oneself. If you're friendly, often other people treat you accordingly (not always of course!)

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Swissandconfused · 11/05/2026 11:18

Scarlettjune · 11/05/2026 10:32

You think the British are more open minded and friendly?

All I hear from the people that move to England is: how unfriendly the people are in England. They say that it is really difficult to make friend here. That people are very unwelcoming

That could not be further from my experience..Granted I'm in the North where people are famously warm and friendly. Everyone who's ever visited me says the same.
You can be on the tram, in the pub,and people speak to you. When I fell in public a few years ago people were quick to help. I have two French friends who say exactly the same, that they mainly love the people over here!

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Goldenbear · 11/05/2026 10:53

Scarlettjune · 11/05/2026 10:32

You think the British are more open minded and friendly?

All I hear from the people that move to England is: how unfriendly the people are in England. They say that it is really difficult to make friend here. That people are very unwelcoming

Surely it depends which part of Britain you are in. English people in the south east IME tend to be difficult to get to know but it depends again on context. I have neighbours who are retired and they have more time to chat. People rushing to get a train to commute, come home quite late probably not as bothered as tired. I have family elsewhere in the country and the difference in friendliness on an everyday level is stark. Everywhere you go people are chatty, supermarket, neighbours, postman etc.

KatiePricesKnickers · 11/05/2026 10:39

The Swiss job market is brutal at the moment.
What job will your husband be looking for? And where?
Don’t forget health insurance for a family will be chf1,000 every month.

Scarlettjune · 11/05/2026 10:32

Ritaskitchen · 11/05/2026 10:22

I 100% agree with the open minded ness and willing to be friendly. I have 1 swiss friend. She is lovely. But it is indeed hard to make friends. Most people have their circle from school, maybe university (if they went) and that’s it.

You think the British are more open minded and friendly?

All I hear from the people that move to England is: how unfriendly the people are in England. They say that it is really difficult to make friend here. That people are very unwelcoming

Ritaskitchen · 11/05/2026 10:22

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 16:23

Yes, there's pros and cons everywhere isn't it. I still think on the whole, most people in the UK are very welcoming and more open minded

I 100% agree with the open minded ness and willing to be friendly. I have 1 swiss friend. She is lovely. But it is indeed hard to make friends. Most people have their circle from school, maybe university (if they went) and that’s it.

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 22:24

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 16:54

"As a Brit, used to having a huge variety of cultures and ethnicities and their influences around me, "

Lol where do you live? In a big British city?

It is definitely not multi cultutlral al over Britain.

I lived in Norfolk, it was predominantly white there.

I now live in a small town on the South coast of England. Again, its very white and clicky. The white British definitely do not mix with the foreigners

Without saying where exactly I'm based, but I live fairly rurally and that's not my experience at all to be honest. Even in smaller settings people tend to still mix and even in a village, in the UK it's still multicultural whereas in many places in Europe you'd be stared at

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Mousehouse12 · 10/05/2026 19:55

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:07

That's very interesting. If you don't mind me asking, why do you think it might have been the wrong decision?

Mostly becaus the kids really struggled with the move. Knowing german, knowing kids games and their language and fitting in are different.

Moving back to the village was also wired. Everyone thinks they know you and you them. But I am not the same person that left 12 years ago. People talk about us but not with us. Being new to a place is different because people are more interested to know who the newcomers are.
Don't get me wrong there is a lot of good things too. Lovely nature, my german family, better payed jobs, loads of old friends...

So maybe it is just a "gras is greener" thing, but we had a good live. The move and all the responsibility of being the only adult that knew the languageand took more out of me than i was able to give at times.
We have sattel now, my husbands german has massively improved and we will stay put.
But i still somtimes think we should have made a different choice.

dizzydizzydizzy · 10/05/2026 17:29

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:12

Yes that's what I mean, that's what people say all the time to me and it makes me doubt myself!

You sound very happy, so that’s all that matters.

perhaps I can take your place in Switzerland? I have friends there and go quite often. I’m even starting to understand a bit of Schwiizerdütsch (I have a degree in high German from many decades ago).

Genevieva · 10/05/2026 17:14

I think people who say this are trying to complement your homeland and also expressing anxiety about this country. I don't think they are saying you should pack up your lives and wave goodbye to a life that you enjoy and a circle of friends you love. Just reply by thanking them and saying that the grass isn't always greener and that you love this country and the friendliness of the people, you have lived here your whole adult life and intend to grow old here.

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 17:14

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:12

Yes that's what I mean, that's what people say all the time to me and it makes me doubt myself!

The British people saying it to you - have they actually lived in Switzerland?

I think some British people seem to think of Switzerland as A Utopian paradise, when it is not perfect. No where is.

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:12

dizzydizzydizzy · 10/05/2026 17:11

i bloody love Switzerland.

But of course YANBU. You are happy so why change it!? I am just baffled that you prefer the UK. …..

Yes that's what I mean, that's what people say all the time to me and it makes me doubt myself!

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dizzydizzydizzy · 10/05/2026 17:11

i bloody love Switzerland.

But of course YANBU. You are happy so why change it!? I am just baffled that you prefer the UK. …..

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:10

HelenaWilson · 10/05/2026 17:07

I'm from a small alpine valley which is absolutely beautiful but the people can be very very insular and close minded and this bothered me my entire life when living there. I find living in the UK quite freeing. Also job wise it would be difficult. My son is bilingual so that would be fine but I'm afraid he'll find it hard to integrate.

This is all about the pros and cons for you and your son. What about your husband? Where does he fit into all this?

I didn't mean to leave him out at all, I was typing in a bit of a hurry. My husband would be happy to move to my home country as long as he finds a job as good as he has now.

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Ragatha · 10/05/2026 17:08

Ignore them!

You're comparing your actual life in the UK to your actual knowledge of Switzerland and your part of it.

Unless they know you very well and are Swiss, the people saying you should go back are merely comparing thoughts about UK life in general (and possibly their own struggles) with an idealised view of life in Switzerland.

Regardless of where you're moving to or from, I think you need a much better reason to move happy, well settled DC with friends than "other people think I should" plus you're both happy with good jobs.

The UK is working for you, you're all happy, sounds ideal to me.

HelenaWilson · 10/05/2026 17:07

I'm from a small alpine valley which is absolutely beautiful but the people can be very very insular and close minded and this bothered me my entire life when living there. I find living in the UK quite freeing. Also job wise it would be difficult. My son is bilingual so that would be fine but I'm afraid he'll find it hard to integrate.

This is all about the pros and cons for you and your son. What about your husband? Where does he fit into all this?

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:07

Mousehouse12 · 10/05/2026 16:58

I am form south germany came to the uk for erasmus, stayed for 12 years met husband and had bilingual children...
We did move to germany and i think it might have been the wrong decision. The kids love it now but took ages to adjust. Small village live is isolating

You are happy were you are no need to change no matter what other people think they would do.

That's very interesting. If you don't mind me asking, why do you think it might have been the wrong decision?

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Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 17:05

ClawsandEffect · 10/05/2026 17:01

I've lived in 5 different UK cities. Including Norfolk. If you don't mix with other cultures I'd say that is more of a choice than it has to be. Do you have Indian, Chinese, Italian, Mexican restaurants and shops near you? I do and I have everywhere I've lived in the UK in the last 25 years. But I definitely would not want to live in a very small, white dominant and cliquey village.

I agree, that when I grew up (I'm likely a lot older than you), it was a lot more white dominant than it is now. But I prefer the cultural variety. And I actively missed it in Switzerland.

I mean Zurich in Switzerland has chinese, Indian, Italian and Mexian restaurants aswell.

I loved visiting Zurich I have to say.

Ive lived in other big European cities. I find the people in the UK to be the least friendly of anywhere Ive lived.

I have encountered a lot of rude and nasty people in the UK.

That is why I am thinking of moving to Spain. I lived there before and I liked it.

Swissandconfused · 10/05/2026 17:04

ClawsandEffect · 10/05/2026 16:38

I lived in Switzerland for 2 years. I wouldn't go as far as saying I hated it, but I really didn't enjoy it. I lived in 2 locations, a 'resort' type environment, which was too much like living in a snowy holiday camp, and a more normal village, which was preferable to the resort.

But still. As a Brit, used to having a huge variety of cultures and ethnicities and their influences around me, I found Switzerland claustrophobic. Certainly, it was very beautiful. But boring. And a minor consideration for me was the variety of food. We're used to a huge range in the UK, due to our cultural diversity. The constant focus there on cheese, carbs and bland foods was so blah. I've lived in other overseas places also and I think other than the US, which I have no desire to visit again, Switzerland was my least favourite. The huge cost of health insurance is staggering too. I had the very very bare minimum of insurance, which required a telephone call before any kind of actual visit with a doctor and paid over £300 a month, for a single, healthy, not too old person.

If I wanted a walking holiday, I'd go because it is stunningly beautiful. But I don't want to live there again.

Edited

You've really hit the nail on the head with your post, I agree with everything.

Claustrophobic is the right word, it's beautiful and everything works really well but it's also a bit boring - I think because of exactly that! We live near Manchester and I always absolutely love the melting pot of culture and food there. It's wild but wonderful.

I think when people say these things about it being better somewhere else what they mean is that things are more "orderly" there.

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Crushed23 · 10/05/2026 17:01

I would choose the UK over Switzerland but a few places over the UK.

(Indeed I left the UK in 2024.)

If you love living there, and your son is thriving etc., why would you even entertain leaving?

ClawsandEffect · 10/05/2026 17:01

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 16:54

"As a Brit, used to having a huge variety of cultures and ethnicities and their influences around me, "

Lol where do you live? In a big British city?

It is definitely not multi cultutlral al over Britain.

I lived in Norfolk, it was predominantly white there.

I now live in a small town on the South coast of England. Again, its very white and clicky. The white British definitely do not mix with the foreigners

I've lived in 5 different UK cities. Including Norfolk. If you don't mix with other cultures I'd say that is more of a choice than it has to be. Do you have Indian, Chinese, Italian, Mexican restaurants and shops near you? I do and I have everywhere I've lived in the UK in the last 25 years. But I definitely would not want to live in a very small, white dominant and cliquey village.

I agree, that when I grew up (I'm likely a lot older than you), it was a lot more white dominant than it is now. But I prefer the cultural variety. And I actively missed it in Switzerland.

Mousehouse12 · 10/05/2026 16:58

I am form south germany came to the uk for erasmus, stayed for 12 years met husband and had bilingual children...
We did move to germany and i think it might have been the wrong decision. The kids love it now but took ages to adjust. Small village live is isolating

You are happy were you are no need to change no matter what other people think they would do.

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 16:54

"As a Brit, used to having a huge variety of cultures and ethnicities and their influences around me, "

Lol where do you live? In a big British city?

It is definitely not multi cultutlral al over Britain.

I lived in Norfolk, it was predominantly white there.

I now live in a small town on the South coast of England. Again, its very white and clicky. The white British definitely do not mix with the foreigners