So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

I agree we have enough home grown abusers without importing more from abroad, whose culture regarding women is well known!

We need a return to the Dublin agreement that we had before brexit, where asylum claims were processed in the country they were already in, rather than them having to actually get here first before claiming asylum.

And at least we would know who they are and if they are accepted they can get a job and start contributing.

At the moment we have people arriving and sometimes we know about them and sometimes we don't. From the news it would appear a lot of those we don't know about end up employed in shops to sell counterfeit goods

Hmm. Would i, if I were a young, fit man, abandon all the women in my life to fend for themselves in an environment so unsafe that I had to flee, then take months to get to theee perfect location, risking life and limb in a small boat,rather than seeking asylum in the first safe location and doing what I can from there to try and help my abandoned, unsafe mother/sisters/daughters etc? Probably not, no.

I think we should have Biometric ID cards that have to be used to get any accommodation or services, including Doctor or Hospital access.

Perhaps we should improve how British men treat women before we start judging others! White British men commit disproportionately more rapes and sexual assaults on women in this country than those from ethnic minorities. Domestic abuse is also a massive problem here.

Claiming the moral high ground on how women are treated is both arrogant and ridiculous.

I'm going to get flamed for saying this but pull out of the ECHR. It protects a lot of illegals from deportation and has throughly declawed any prevention measures from allowing them to enter or enforcement. There's also a massive normalisation of illegally entering that needs to stop.

Yes but all the reform voters are feeling emboldened and coming out of the woodwork now thinking that Nigel is going to be running the country next week.

It is like the Brexit voters who thought we’d wake up on the 24th June 2016 to all ’them muslamics’ and non-white people being deported.

I think quicker processing times would really help, but money needs to be thrown at it, like a PP said more jobs for immigration agents.

If they are granted asylum and have genuine documents then I think they should be allowed to work sooner than they are.

If they break the law then their asylum status automatically gets retracted.

However, I think for some people they just don’t wan’t any immigration at all, they have fallen for the “immigrants are tekkin all my jobs and get benyfits” so nothing will ever be good enough for them and they will never not believe some of the problems in this country really are not because of immigrants. They just don’t like brown people.

Nigel is gonna do fuck all about it, fuck up the country more, he just likes to cause division and get richer. He is a vile dogshit of a man. I also think Greens will fuck the country up also!

The French have no real interest in stopping people from crossing the channel. They will pretend to go along with schemes, and take whatever money the UK throws their way, but there's nothing in it for them if they allow channel migrants to stay there.

Some sensible ideas as long as they don’t act like the thugs in the US! My sister is visiting me and has said that the ICE employees are given very little training. I could say more about description of them but I’m struggling to find a polite way!

Reform did not “win by a landslide”. They got 26% of the vote in England, lost to Plaid in Wales and were thrashed in Scotland. They are dressing this up as a success but in fact their vote share has dropped based on previous by-election performance.

The vast majority of “illegal immigrants” in the UK arrived here through legal means such as student visas but stayed on once their right to reside ended. Small boat arrivals are a fraction of immigration, and asylum seekers are vetted and then deported if their claims fail. Focusing on small boats and asylum seekers as the issue just shows how willing people are to fall for Reform propaganda instead of actually understanding what is really happening.

I used to teach English to foreign national prisoners, some of whom were illegal immigrants due to be deported at the end of their sentences. I was told by them more than once that they passed through Germany, The Netherlands, France, Belgium etc as there was no way for them to get work there without having the correct papers. They came to the UK because we don't check/care and they knew they'd get work somewhere in our underground economy.
This may not apply to all illegal immigrants but if we crack down on the barbers, vape shops, car washes and other businesses we get cheap deals from paying cash and turning a blind eye to what goes on behind the scenes with them, we might discourage a proportion risking their lives to arrive here illegally.

If that is true it sounds horrendous. "Local communities don't tollerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night"? I am really struggling to articulate quite how sick this makes me feel.

And we all know what those reasons are!

Which would probably result in in more claims being accepted

But many don’t speak English, hence millions spent on interpreters and translators. Many have lived here for years and still don’t speak English. Many don’t understand the culture either eg how women should be treated!

I read a post online saying "With luck we will wake up on Friday with Nigel Farage in number 10.'
The level of ignorance about our political system amazes me.
I am beginning to think there is no hope for the UK.

Of course we need immigrants- controlled immigration though, not loads of young men of unknown origin.

The only way to stop the boats is to literally stop the boats, which is what we are paying the French to do, with little result!

It's the narrative that has to change. The UK doesn't actually take that many asylum seekers compared to other countries and immigration isn't particularly high either it is falling. Forecasts are now that we.could have negative net migration this year.
There is a reason why some political parties are obsessed with immigration. They want to give disaffected people someone to blame for their situation and people always find it easy to blame people who are different from them
What I would like someone to explain to me is how do people think their life will improve if we had zero migration?

Do you understand local council elections don’t have sway over immigration policy? Is the whole of England confused right now?

Not saying we should do any of those, just saying it’s effective

Spend money (shock horror!) on training and employing far more immigration officers so that all migrants and asylum seekers entering the country can be processed quickly and either given legal status to stay and be allowed to work and contribute to the economy, or are deported back to their country of origin.

Employ enough immigration officers to check up and deal with those who overstay visas or otherwise flout their visas.

Prosecute any employers who do not carry out the correct vetting procedure to make sure they only employ people who have a right to work and prosecute employers that pay less than minimum wage and are the ones attracting all the ‘wrong’ types of immigrants.

Not as dramatic and brutal as the US ICE agents who go around rounding up anyone who isn’t white, which is what I’m sure a lot of people would love to see.

A polish friend was saying to me that if people try to get into the country illegally the army use water cannons on them. They are removed if spotted on the streets. Local communities don’t tolerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night.