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So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · 09/05/2026 10:06

Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

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Dollymylove · 09/05/2026 12:43

Pull the plug on the hotel accommodation and the benefits is a start

Allseeingallknowing · 09/05/2026 12:42

SpottyAlpaca · 09/05/2026 12:32

Internment camps.

Anyone who is currently in the UK illegally or who enters the UK illegally is immediately sent to an internment camp. They are then offered a choice: Immediate deportation at the UK taxpayer’s expense or they remain in the camp indefinitely. They cannot leave other than to be deported. They cannot work or study. They receive only basic subsistence rations, no money, and only emergency medical treatment. There is no entertainment, no recreational facilities & no means of practicing their religion other then private prayer.

This would obviously require fundamental changes to human rights laws, but it would stop illegal immigration in weeks.

That would be a brave politician who suggested that!

Elishiva · 09/05/2026 12:41

The men coming here on boats are not asylum seekers or refugees, they are economic migrants.
Of they were refugees they would be bringing their mothers sisters wives and daughters with them.
We have no idea who these men are other than the fact they are willing to break the law.
They should not be wondering around in our communities, they should be held in barracks until processed, the incentive could vanish and the flow would stop overnight.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 09/05/2026 12:41

Tryagain26 · 09/05/2026 11:29

It's the narrative that has to change. The UK doesn't actually take that many asylum seekers compared to other countries and immigration isn't particularly high either it is falling. Forecasts are now that we.could have negative net migration this year.
There is a reason why some political parties are obsessed with immigration. They want to give disaffected people someone to blame for their situation and people always find it easy to blame people who are different from them
What I would like someone to explain to me is how do people think their life will improve if we had zero migration?

Ah, doncha know? Immigration is totally responsible for housing g shortages, NHS waiting lists and overcrowded schools. And crime. And poor quality Uber drivers.And quite possibly the rise of trans ideology… Witjout immigration, all these would be solved in a stroke, no additional investment required

Allseeingallknowing · 09/05/2026 12:40

helpfulperson · 09/05/2026 12:37

It is a legacy of colonisation. They want to come here because they speak english. Why do they speak english? Because we colonised them. And because we taught them that Great Britain knew the best way to live.You reap what you sow.

They often don’t speak English ! As I already said, the bill for translators and interpreters runs into millions. There are areas of Britain where some, often women, don’t speak English after living here for many years.

Winewolfhywls · 09/05/2026 12:40

Also immigration is down a lot but the government haven't advertised this enough.

Winewolfhywls · 09/05/2026 12:38

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 10:36

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

A programme on radio four a while back was explaining that if someone is refused asylum at one European country, they are automatically refused asylum at others. Thus the people move to try a non EU country, us.

FernandoSor · 09/05/2026 12:38

ID cards, citizen/resident registration, consistent and serious sentences for those found to be employing illegal workers.

If the UK bosses of Uber, Deliveroo etc actually faced jail time for the thousands of illegal workers that work for them then you can bet people would sit up and notice. Ditto all the nail bars, car washes, barbers, farms etc.

All foreign students to attend all classes in person, no remote learning from your uncle’s petrol station 200 miles away. Revocation of student visas and fines to educational establishments if students found to be absent.

Not having English as our national language would also be a huge help but that’s a tricky one to fix.

helpfulperson · 09/05/2026 12:37

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 10:36

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

It is a legacy of colonisation. They want to come here because they speak english. Why do they speak english? Because we colonised them. And because we taught them that Great Britain knew the best way to live.You reap what you sow.

Bilsonate · 09/05/2026 12:36

HermioneWeasley · 09/05/2026 11:27

A polish friend was saying to me that if people try to get into the country illegally the army use water cannons on them. They are removed if spotted on the streets. Local communities don’t tolerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night.

Your friend is talking shite.

NaranjaSilla · 09/05/2026 12:34

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 10:36

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

They aren’t obliged to but actually most do. Or more, most people stay in the region of the country that they are fleeing from.

hahabahbag · 09/05/2026 12:33

Remember most of us did not have elections at all , and those who did were not voting for a U.K. wide election so felt comfortable voting for a protest vote knowing councils don’t actually have much power. Scottish and Welsh elections were not successful for reform

Latenightreader · 09/05/2026 12:33

Lifeofthepartay · 09/05/2026 12:14

Would Muslim countries allow Christians to build churches? I don't think I you are even safe showing a bit of PDA while on holiday....

I've just searched for 'church in' plus the name of a dozen or so majority Muslim country and almost all have churches and cathedrals. Iran was the exception I found - I could well believe there are others and only searched for a few minutes. Many Middle Eastern countries have extremely old Christian minorities.

Are you saying that countries should only allow people to practise their state religion, or is it specifically Islam you object to?

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 12:33

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 09/05/2026 12:31

No, asylum seekers are not legally required to claim asylum in the first safe country they enter under international law. While Mumsnetters politicians often suggest this, the 1951 Refugee Convention doesn’t contain an obligation to seek asylum in the first safe country reached.

I didnt say they were legally required to so I have no idea what the point of your post is.

SpottyAlpaca · 09/05/2026 12:32

Internment camps.

Anyone who is currently in the UK illegally or who enters the UK illegally is immediately sent to an internment camp. They are then offered a choice: Immediate deportation at the UK taxpayer’s expense or they remain in the camp indefinitely. They cannot leave other than to be deported. They cannot work or study. They receive only basic subsistence rations, no money, and only emergency medical treatment. There is no entertainment, no recreational facilities & no means of practicing their religion other then private prayer.

This would obviously require fundamental changes to human rights laws, but it would stop illegal immigration in weeks.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 09/05/2026 12:31

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 10:36

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

No, asylum seekers are not legally required to claim asylum in the first safe country they enter under international law. While Mumsnetters politicians often suggest this, the 1951 Refugee Convention doesn’t contain an obligation to seek asylum in the first safe country reached.

Perrygreen · 09/05/2026 12:30

Yes, this "if we crack down on the barbers, vape shops, car washes and other businesses we get cheap deals from paying cash and turning a blind eye to what goes on behind the scenes with them, we might discourage a proportion risking their lives to arrive here illegally."
See also, food delivery drivers, ice-cream bars, mini-marts and nail bars.

There needs to be a collosal (ie; covid emergency) level of investment in trading standards, council teams and police so they can start making it impossible for these dodgy businesses to operate.

And I believe that re-joining the EU is needed too. France no longer have to care who comes over the channel to the UK.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 12:29

Wellwhatnowbellaboo · 09/05/2026 10:06

Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

Reform hasn't won by a landslide. It has won the most council seats in England in this election yes (not every council seat was up for election), but it has only won control of 14/136 councils in England. It failed to win power in Wales and Scotland.

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 09/05/2026 12:21

kinkytoes · 09/05/2026 10:51

Reduce the comfy life and benefits offered here. I honestly think that's the only way.

People aren't coming here for the weather, that's for sure.

Illegal immigrants cannot access benefits of any kind. So already done!

Bikenutz · 09/05/2026 12:18

There is so much interest in the movement of people across international borders and yet so little attention paid to the movement of goods or money. This imbalance matters, because the latter two do the most damage to the UK economy.

Take the movement of goods. The illegal import of foods, especially meat that does not meet UK standards undercuts British farmers and legitimate suppliers, costing the sector significant lost trade and weakening already fragile supply chains. These products bypass animal welfare rules, environmental protections, and basic food safety checks. The harm is financial but it is also a direct risk to public health when consumers are exposed to food that would never be allowed onto UK shelves through legal channels.

Then look at the movement of money. Consider the international coffee chain on your local high street. You might assume your purchase mainly contributes to UK tax revenues. In reality, only a small fraction of what you pay stays here. Profits are often shifted abroad through complex internal charges such as large fees for using branding, paid to subsidiaries in low‑tax jurisdictions like the Netherlands or Luxembourg. On paper, the UK arm makes little or no profit, and its corporation tax bill all but disappears. Legal, but devastating for the public finances. This pattern is not limited to coffee. Online retailers, energy companies, and digital platforms routinely move profits offshore, while UK consumers, workers, and small businesses carry a growing tax burden.

At the same time, illicit flows—such as VAT fraud, counterfeit goods, and money laundering silently drain billions more from the system, largely out of sight and out of mind.

This helps explain why the UK’s finances are under such strain.

We focus intensely on who crosses our borders, while largely ignoring what crosses them - and how much value leaks out as a result. Value that could be paying for the NHS, etc

Farage is a money man working for his own private gain - of course they want you to be distracted. There’s an objective debate to be had around immigration policy but don’t let them take our eyes off of these other things.

Weeellokthen · 09/05/2026 12:16

tulippa · 09/05/2026 11:40

I used to teach English to foreign national prisoners, some of whom were illegal immigrants due to be deported at the end of their sentences. I was told by them more than once that they passed through Germany, The Netherlands, France, Belgium etc as there was no way for them to get work there without having the correct papers. They came to the UK because we don't check/care and they knew they'd get work somewhere in our underground economy.
This may not apply to all illegal immigrants but if we crack down on the barbers, vape shops, car washes and other businesses we get cheap deals from paying cash and turning a blind eye to what goes on behind the scenes with them, we might discourage a proportion risking their lives to arrive here illegally.

I agree, the amount of criminal activity in plain sight of authorities is astonishing in the Uk.Why wouldn't undocumented, potential criminal, economic migrants want to settle here 😂
I have plenty of friends from India and all over the world who have had to jump through hoops to get jobs and settle here.

Cheese55 · 09/05/2026 12:16

MagpiePi · 09/05/2026 11:27

Spend money (shock horror!) on training and employing far more immigration officers so that all migrants and asylum seekers entering the country can be processed quickly and either given legal status to stay and be allowed to work and contribute to the economy, or are deported back to their country of origin.

Employ enough immigration officers to check up and deal with those who overstay visas or otherwise flout their visas.

Prosecute any employers who do not carry out the correct vetting procedure to make sure they only employ people who have a right to work and prosecute employers that pay less than minimum wage and are the ones attracting all the ‘wrong’ types of immigrants.

Not as dramatic and brutal as the US ICE agents who go around rounding up anyone who isn’t white, which is what I’m sure a lot of people would love to see.

It's the legal appeals that take the time not the amount of immigration officers. Also a country has to accept the person back so you are dealing with immigration office of a, sometimes, developing country

GrinchPink · 09/05/2026 12:16

MissAmbrosia · 09/05/2026 10:32

Asylum seekers are not illegal. Illegal immigrants are the ones overstaying visas etc. I would introduce ID, checks on where people live and do spot checks on businesses to ensure they are not employing people with no right to be in the country.

Ok… what about this then? Very much illegal and should no be able to claim asylum on fake claims !! How do we differentiate now between who is genuine and who’s not 🤷🏼‍♀️ most probably not genuine and could stop in first safe country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o

Undercover footage of an Asian woman sitting on a bed. The chimney breast behind her has been turned into a feature wall with bright blue and silver wallpaper, while the bed cover is a large check pattern in yellow, blue and grey.

Legal advisers help migrants pose as gay to get asylum, undercover BBC investigation finds

The BBC exposes a shadow industry charging migrants thousands of pounds to help them cheat the asylum system.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o

Lifeofthepartay · 09/05/2026 12:14

Latenightreader · 09/05/2026 11:39

If that is true it sounds horrendous. "Local communities don't tollerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night"? I am really struggling to articulate quite how sick this makes me feel.

Would Muslim countries allow Christians to build churches? I don't think I you are even safe showing a bit of PDA while on holiday....

millymollymoomoo · 09/05/2026 12:11

Recognise these are not asylum seekers but illegal economic migrants.
stop ALL housing, no hotels, no hmos, no access to nhs or healthcare. Turn boats back into French waters. Remove visa from
countries who refuse to cooperate. Detain any that arrive and do not let them roam free.

absoluty crack down on money laundering barbers and bake shops etc.