So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

That won't stop the boats.

Rejoining the EU would be a good start.

Increasing investment in the civil service departments that deal with all aspects of immigration and people who are here illegally.

I imagine this is usually anathema to the people who want fewer immigrants/ vote Reform. Eg Reform want to roll back the civil service, not enlarge it.

Which part is incorrect?

And how can they speed up the process when they don’t have their documents and proof of their identity?

Definitely benefiting the French, and does nothing to lessen immigration, unless the U.K. is good at granting asylum only to those likely to be of benefit to us, in which case those seeking asylum should be presenting their documentation.

It also protects you and your children. I am genuinely astounded that people would rather give up their own human rights than have a refugee protectef.

Withdraw all legal aid for asylum seekers. Withdraw from whatever international agreements we need to to ship them elsewhere. Stop reunification. Spot check uber eats etc drivers and if not here legally and driving legally send them back.

Why does it make you feel sick?

Some countries have colonial past, exported themselves to other cultures/religion countries and now have to deal with people from those regions wanting to come and bring their culture with them.

Some countries never had colonies and are more culturally and ethnically homogenous. It's not automatically a bad thing. Their policy is, that if you want to come and live there, you should aim for blending in with local lifestyle - and mosques are a tool of keeping the people coming from Muslim countries religiously and culturally segregated.

In my country (similar to Poland), Muslims have places to pray (often an ecumenical church has time slots for different minority religions), but building big mosques is not welcome, because it would mean building cultural ecosystems and isolation within a religious group.

It works well - imams cather for their religious needs, but don't overstep the legal boundaries - no imam would administer a Nikah here (without state registered marriage first), we don't have Sharia courts and our teachers don't have to hide for talking about Charlie Hebdo or images of different religious characters.

But factually, they are not here illegally. It is perfectly legal to claim asylum. The government could change the rules to allow asylum seekers to work, but currently they can't, so the government is obliged to feed and house them as it doesn't allow them to earn money feed and house themselves. The government could also speed up the process so that they don't have to wait so long for their claims to be heard.

Good old common sense I think.

id bet my life savings that the 5 Turkish barbers, 4 car washes and 5 nail bars in our tiny town our not staffed with people with the correct documents to work in the UK.

Getting in a boat is not the safest option. Staying in a safe country where they are already, is.

There’s going to have to be a multifaceted approach. Firstly asylum should only be temporary. Even the BBC has recognised the industry around falsifying information around claims, claiming you’re fleeing because you’re gay. If that person is subsequently shown to be in a heterosexual relationship then that person should have their asylum status retracted. We shouldn’t be granting asylum based on political opinion or religion, both those things are life style choices.

We need to be more insistent on integration and less tolerant of bending over backwards to accommodate other cultures. If you live in Britain, you should abide by British norms and values. We shouldn’t allow the abhorrent slaughter rituals of religions. Our educational system should be one founded on British pride.

All public signs should be in English or Gaelic or Welsh or Cornish, not Urdu etc. same with leaflets, election speeches etc.

We shouldn’t be allowing the takeover of Trafalgar square for religious rituals other than those linked to our national identity, ie Christian or Celtic Pagan.

There should be zero support for any religious based laws, no Sharia courts should be allowed etc. We shouldn’t have teachers in hiding because they criticised a land grabbing caravan trader who lived 1500 years ago. Anyone involved in the reason he is in hiding should be prosecuted.

If we started insisting that everyone who lived here was fully integrated into the UK then I suspect far fewer people would want to come.

Poland is a good basis for this.

France would be more than happy for the UK to open an office in Calais wheere people could apply for asylum in the UK.

It would immediately end all the boat crossings but will never happen because it would result in more asylum claims.

Organise faster processing. That’s really the issue.

No this is incorrect

Those who call themselves asylum seekers, their identities and pasts unknown to the authorities here, ARE fed, clothed, accommodated etc . You know that full well. Even government ministers call them illegals! Those who are still here after their visas have expired should be deported.That is a different matter.

So within your plan how would someone seek asylum in the UK?

Because international law allows them to seek asylum in ANY safe country. 'First safe country' is an internal EU rule which has no relevance to the UK.

Imagine the level of fear you must have for yours and your children’s lives if the safest option is to get in a boat.

What do other countries successfully do?

I think the first thing to make law is; if you come here illegally, you will be deported back to your own country, or if that’s too dangerous, a third safe country. End of. This will be done within 30 days.

Secondly, an amnesty. You’ve got 30 days to present yourself to the police station, and you’ll be granted a visa to stay. Any one found illegal after this will be deported. You can’t bring anyone here except a spouse or child.

Whether you are a legal or illegal migrant, you are not entitled to any benefits except minimum basic living for illegals the 30 days of processing.

They do need to get a grip on illegal immigration. If they stopped it abruptly the country wouldn’t feel the need to vote Reform. They’d suck up the rest of the problems as deep down they just know we are a declining empire.

A lot do many countries have far more asylum seekers than the uk

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I’m here legally and I don’t even qualify for benefits! And I’m in Scotland which is a hell of a lot of “softer” about benefits than England.

My parents were political asylum seekers to the UK before I was born. The first country they fled to on foot was under strict Islamic rule. From there they flew to East Germany, under soviet rule. From there, they flew to another country in Europe where they didn’t know the language before then flying to the UK and claiming asylum.

Their lives were turned completely upside down by no fault of their own and they had to
leave their families behind, not knowing they wouldn’t see them for another 30 years. It’s not unreasonable that in the decision to flee, they chose to claim asylum in a country where they could speak the language and felt they could carry on with their careers and rebuild their lives rather than living in a country under Islamic or soviet rule or in a country where they knew nothing about the culture and language.

So I fully get why someone who is a genuine asylum seeker may not claim asylum in the first country they go to. Yes they are out of danger, but they also have a future to think about.

Of course they do. Did you not read about St Nicholas cathedral in Tehran getting hit in a US-Israeli air raid? They also managed to bomb one of the synagogues in Tehran.

I’m not sure if KSA has churches but every other Muslim majority country does because they have Christian minorities (often quite large minorities).