So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

95% of the immigrants we get are not assylum seekers and have never seen a small boat- mostly they overstay visas or didn't need a visa, they come as tourists or contract workers then they don't go home. There are very few checks, unless they work for a company that is well known for using illegal immigrants the chances you will get caught are almost zero, because all the checks and staff, who would have caught them have been sacrificed to 30 years of ongoing cuts.
We are targetted by immigrants who don't want to work or are too old or sick to work because there are plenty of information sources on the internet which tell them they will never be caught, and once they have been here a while they can claim benefits.
Nothing Farage has proposed will do anything about this- so 95% of illegal immigration will continue even if they manage to stop the small boats (even this is very doubtful TBH).

You know perfectly well what I mean! British men often leave a lot to be desired, but some from different cultures are known for suppression, cruelty etc towards women, plus first cousin marriage, underage marriage There’s enough in the media about it.

A lot of immigrants in the UK speak English and live just like we do.

What's your point?

The migrants cross through quite a few countries before they get here. They don’t walk, they take trains I assume. If you’ve passed through 6 countries to get here, then maybe a much stronger approach needs to be taken every step of the way. It’s not just a Uk problem, it’s a Europe wide issue.

Why isn’t there interception along the way in each country? This could be financed by a collective Europe, where they are then held and processed at a central point, and each EU country including the UK has their proportional share of genuine refugees and the others deported back or to a 3rd county out of the central pot.

We could have 1 European force that patrols the med, popular landing points and points of entry who “meet” those fleeing persecution and bring them to safety.

I’m sure those fleeing harm would be glad of being met and wouldn’t care which European country they’d be housed in, and those looking for an easy gig would be put off at wanting to get the UK, but it’s a lottery and they may be swapping their lack of prospects at home for worse ones.

You know our benefits system is less generous that what's on offer in many EU countries, yeah?

Iran has a number of vibrant and active Armenian churches (Iran having given asylum to Armenian refugees fleeing the genocide of the early 20th century).

Edited to say I agree with your post, just wanted to add a comment about the Armenian churches in Iran (which I’ve visited!)

😂😂 how should women be treated? I don’t think white British men are a good example.

Objectively, the only solution is to go back into the EU and fully utilise the provision that allows return to the 1st safe (EU) country

Family reunion and unaccompanied minors have a higher criteria than 'first safe country' in any case. Some countries, such as Poland are refusing to take back any Dublin returns, legal challenges will stop us returning asylum seekers to countries with poor reception facilities such as Greece...

The Irish Government are not having much success with returns;

Feb 2026
Only 2% of asylum seekers transferred back to EU state where they first applied.

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2026/02/16/only-2-of-asylum-seekers-transferred-back-to-eu-state-where-they-first-applied/

A lot did, including myself!

The point of my post was to make a factual statement of the law to counter balance your stated opinion that they’re no longer asylum seekers once they’re in a safe country. Which doesn’t accord with the Refugee Convention.

“Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers”

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I meant the leaving of the initial unsafe country not further movement

Stop giving free hotels, money, phones, medical/dental care etc to anyone that arrives. Removed this golden ticket and the attraction is gone.

I wonder what proportion of Brits living in the likes of Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain are Arabic speakers and have embraced and immersed themselves into their culture?

I wonder how many of the 400,000 or so Brits living in Spain mix with Spanish people, have adopted their norms and speak the language?

Because the “irregular “ immigrants don’t have money, unlike expats who choose to live in another country and pay their way!

Well of course. As are presumably the ones that @Cheesipuff mentioned.

If I remember correctly the French broached the subject but the U.K. didn’t go ahead with it. However, immigration would probably increase if that were to happen unless the U.K. were really specific about who they would accept, like those who have professions or abilities that we need and would be useful to us.

Well, it isn't about what your opinion of how people should seek asylum. It's about what international law defines as the legal entitlement of those seeking asylum.

So there's no such premise as a first safe country. The reality is that the vast majority of people seek asylum in a neighbouring country, which makes sense logistically. But people will migrate to places that provide a semblance of familiarity be it a vague connection already there, language, culture or the misconception that we deeply care about them because of our military presence in their country.

I presume they are legal immigrants in which case it’s fine?

You are correct that it’s often coastal areas that have benefited. Where I lived a new marina had been built followed by shops and restaurants, more opportunities for employment. Of course there were dentists and clinics before expats arrived but there are plenty more now, and there are more legal firms helping with buying houses, wills, taxes etc. There will always be those who don’t want to be part of the community, but generally I found expats only too keen to assimilate. One area that is increased by expats is animal charities and charities for Cancer and other conditions. I also found the local community welcoming and helpful .

I can confirm this. We employ lots of immigrants and they are eligible for the bike-to-work scheme. They also get a company mobile and (depending on their role) car allowance.

It would be a foolish political party to keep ignoring the will and concerns of a significant chunk of the population. It seems like Labour and the Tories have failed to deal with concerns around immigration. Be interesting to see what happens in the next general election.

Great idea, and NF has established such a good relationship with the French they are bound to allow it.

I didn’t ask where you lived. I asked you to define “immigrant”. Because I was one, and I didn’t have access to any of those things you mention.

SW Scotland housed in nice hotels