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So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · 09/05/2026 10:06

Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

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niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:23

likelysuspect · 09/05/2026 17:21

Yes it depends on the accommodation. If you have food included in the hotel/hostel then you get about a tenner a week

If you have to pay for your food, you get about 50 quid a week.

Adult UC for a single person for living costs by comparison is nearly 100 quid if they're over 25

Peanuts in either case.

They mean the costs of accommodation. No council tax, rent, utility etc. So that's probably £200 a week as furnished as well. And they are in good spots

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:22

Iamstardust · 09/05/2026 17:21

Without illegal immigrants who will work for low wages certain types of business would have no staff.

If they can’t afford to pay people a proper wage they shouldn’t be operating.

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:21

FernandoSor · 09/05/2026 17:19

Same here. It’s not that the black economy doesn’t exist in France but it is much smaller and it incredibly hard to do pretty much anything without a carte d’identité and a livret de famille (if you have children).

The idea of skipping into the country and immediately getting a job as a delivery driver or in a nail parlour, no questions asked, simply isn’t possible, especially in smaller towns.

I can just imagine a ‘Turkish barber’ or dodgy vape shop setting up in my relatives’ small town - the mayor would be straight round and have it shut down and everyone’s IDs and right to work checked in an instant.

But they are supposed to do all that in the UK. Right to rent check by landlords. Employers getting checks. Bank checks etc

likelysuspect · 09/05/2026 17:21

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:14

Yes I said the basic benefits which is often a hotel and like £7 per week. Hardly the life of Riley.

Yes it depends on the accommodation. If you have food included in the hotel/hostel then you get about a tenner a week

If you have to pay for your food, you get about 50 quid a week.

Adult UC for a single person for living costs by comparison is nearly 100 quid if they're over 25

Peanuts in either case.

Iamstardust · 09/05/2026 17:21

Without illegal immigrants who will work for low wages certain types of business would have no staff.

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:20

StandFirm · 09/05/2026 17:18

Poland isn't exactly renowned for its multicultural tolerance.

Poland for the poles. What's the issue with that

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:19

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:17

Well 54% of the country are on some sort of benefit so a lot of people do.

That figure includes state pension and child benefit.

FernandoSor · 09/05/2026 17:19

ParmaVioletTea · 09/05/2026 16:17

Yes, this is what my French relatives tell me.

Same here. It’s not that the black economy doesn’t exist in France but it is much smaller and it incredibly hard to do pretty much anything without a carte d’identité and a livret de famille (if you have children).

The idea of skipping into the country and immediately getting a job as a delivery driver or in a nail parlour, no questions asked, simply isn’t possible, especially in smaller towns.

I can just imagine a ‘Turkish barber’ or dodgy vape shop setting up in my relatives’ small town - the mayor would be straight round and have it shut down and everyone’s IDs and right to work checked in an instant.

StandFirm · 09/05/2026 17:18

Latenightreader · 09/05/2026 11:39

If that is true it sounds horrendous. "Local communities don't tollerate the building of mosques - if any are attempted they are pulled down in the night"? I am really struggling to articulate quite how sick this makes me feel.

Poland isn't exactly renowned for its multicultural tolerance.

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:18

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:17

A shared hotel and like £7 a week. Yeah hotels do have water and heating so these are covered. Not a comfy life to most people.

They aren’t taking council houses (not allowed) not are being in the process of immigrating (not allowed).

It’s a comfier life than many people have in the UK, and likely much better than they would have in their home country. Many people would love to have £7 a week left after paying housing costs, their bills and for food.

Jamesblonde2 · 09/05/2026 17:18

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:17

A shared hotel and like £7 a week. Yeah hotels do have water and heating so these are covered. Not a comfy life to most people.

They aren’t taking council houses (not allowed) not are being in the process of immigrating (not allowed).

What does it cost per week in a hotel with food?

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:17

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:16

Many ordinary people would like to have their accommodation, utility bills and food all inclusive.

Well 54% of the country are on some sort of benefit so a lot of people do.

Jamesblonde2 · 09/05/2026 17:17

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:14

Yes I said the basic benefits which is often a hotel and like £7 per week. Hardly the life of Riley.

You mean free accommodation, heating, food and the rest. Where can I claim mine? Anyone?

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:17

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:14

Accommodation, utility bills, food all paid for. Usually they get clothes and phones and all basic needs are taken care of. Plus a small allowance for anything extra. I would call that a benefit, wouldn’t you?

What else do you want to give to classify it as a comfy benefit, a car allowance?

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A shared hotel and like £7 a week. Yeah hotels do have water and heating so these are covered. Not a comfy life to most people.

They aren’t taking council houses (not allowed) not are being in the process of immigrating (not allowed).

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:16

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:14

Yes I said the basic benefits which is often a hotel and like £7 per week. Hardly the life of Riley.

Many ordinary people would like to have their accommodation, utility bills and food all inclusive.

Jamesblonde2 · 09/05/2026 17:16

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:12

What comfy life and free benefits would that be? If you are applying for a legal right to remain you don’t have any access to benefits and have to show that you can financially support yourself for two years. You cannot claim benefits.

People claiming asylum get basic benefits while they are processed. So what comfy benefits and free benefits exist then?

You’re interpreting benefits as state benefit handouts. See recent posts of free accommodation, hearing, food, medical treatment, taxis, legal aid.

Whet would that cost your standard British Citizen?

Us friggin muggins are paying for all of this!!

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:15

And if they claim to be children it's even better

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:14

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:13

Er no. Asylum seekers do get money..somewhere to live, fed, money and then when their asylum is processed they get all the same benefits as everyone else.

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Yes I said the basic benefits which is often a hotel and like £7 per week. Hardly the life of Riley.

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:14

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:12

What comfy life and free benefits would that be? If you are applying for a legal right to remain you don’t have any access to benefits and have to show that you can financially support yourself for two years. You cannot claim benefits.

People claiming asylum get basic benefits while they are processed. So what comfy benefits and free benefits exist then?

Accommodation, utility bills, food all paid for. Usually they get clothes and phones and all basic needs are taken care of. Plus a small allowance for anything extra. I would call that a benefit, wouldn’t you?

What else do you want to give to classify it as a comfy benefit, a car allowance?

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:13

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:12

What comfy life and free benefits would that be? If you are applying for a legal right to remain you don’t have any access to benefits and have to show that you can financially support yourself for two years. You cannot claim benefits.

People claiming asylum get basic benefits while they are processed. So what comfy benefits and free benefits exist then?

Er no. Asylum seekers do get money..somewhere to live, fed, money and then when their asylum is processed they get all the same benefits as everyone else.

Besafeeatcake · 09/05/2026 17:12

kinkytoes · 09/05/2026 10:51

Reduce the comfy life and benefits offered here. I honestly think that's the only way.

People aren't coming here for the weather, that's for sure.

What comfy life and free benefits would that be? If you are applying for a legal right to remain you don’t have any access to benefits and have to show that you can financially support yourself for two years. You cannot claim benefits.

People claiming asylum get basic benefits while they are processed. So what comfy benefits and free benefits exist then?

ilovesleep6 · 09/05/2026 17:10

SoSoSoSickofthis · 09/05/2026 17:08

Because of language. Connections. Opportunities.

If you and your family were at threat of torture or death due to some personal feature, what would you do?

And yet so many of them need translators as they can’t speak English.

’opportunities’ is not a reason for asylum, that makes someone an economic migrant.

EasternStandard · 09/05/2026 17:08

Clavinova · 09/05/2026 17:04

I'm not sure it's so much a misunderstanding, rather politicians such as Ed Davey have been pushing a disingenuous narrative on this topic.

Yes politicians too and some of the media.

niassfattie · 09/05/2026 17:08

TonTonMacoute · 09/05/2026 17:05

Germany and Denmark as well as Australia are all much more successful than the U.K. It is perfectly possible to control illegal entry humanely and within the law and international agreements when the political will is there.

The real anger, IMO, is not so much at the illegal migrants themselves, it is more anger at the attitude of the political establishment who seem to be pretending that it isn't a problem, it isn't costing huge amounts of money that could be spent on other things, and that anyone who complains about the situation is a bigoted racist who must be silenced.

If we cannot deport foreigners who commit crimes, and then end up paying for them to be able to stay here, then people are not going to be happy. They are going to be even more unhappy when they themselves are struggling to meet their own CoL.

Asylum status and ILR should be reviewed regularly and revoked where appropriate. It's far too easy to get citizenship here, if migrants cannot support themselves and their families it should be granted in only the most exceptional of circumstances. These are measures that have been introduced in Denmark and have had positive results.

Australia doesn't let in boat people

SoSoSoSickofthis · 09/05/2026 17:08

AyeDeadOn · 09/05/2026 10:36

Why arent they seeking asylum in the first safe country? Once they choose to go through another safe country, or many other safe countries, imo they are no longer asylum seekers. They have other reasons for wanting to come specifically here, not just to a safe place.

Because of language. Connections. Opportunities.

If you and your family were at threat of torture or death due to some personal feature, what would you do?

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