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To tell son it’s too much and affecting his dad’s self esteem.

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myfairladies · 09/05/2026 09:03

We have a lovely lad who is 25 he moved out about three years ago and lives in the same town and we see him regularly which is lovely but the thing is he is very judgmental and this is making us uncomfortable.

He will unexpectedly call round early on a weekend and ask why we’re still in bed. This will be about 8:30-9 when he’s been up and been for a run already.
He will moan about what’s in the fridge and tell his dad he needs to lose weight and stop eating this and that, not just once but every time he turns up and we happen to be eating something he doesn’t approve of.

I’d like to add he wasn’t like this when he lived at home.

He makes sarcastic comments about Dh driving when he himself although holds a license chooses to cycle every where instead.
While I appreciate his lifestyle is his choice, I don’t think he should judge or preach to his dad about it, yes Dh is overweight and does like to sit and watch telly but at 55 there’s no way on earth he is suddenly going to buy a bike, sell the tv and spend his evenings jogging and eating whatever he recommends.
While he means well he is offending his dad and I can see this affecting their relationship.
Dh likes his lay in at the weekend as do I and as we no longer have children at home I agree we are entitled to sleep in but if he turns up and we’re not up yet it’s another chance to criticise.
I had a chat with him and said dad isn’t going to change so just accept him as he is but he isn’t going to back down and is determined to keep on at him, I can see it’s driving a wedge.
I can see the eye roll when ds arrives and ds told me he doesn’t feel like he has anything in common with his dad anymore because he tried to help him but he won’t listen which is true, he doesn’t want to listen as he doesn’t want to be changed or have his lifestyle choices criticised, just wish he would drop it because I can see his dad pulling away because he feels constantly scrutinised.

OP posts:
Flamingojune · 09/05/2026 17:49

Netcurtainnelly · 09/05/2026 16:27

sorry but your DH does need to do something does he have any hobbies apart from eating and watching TV sounds unhealthy.
What about you do you exercise. How about you and DH go out for a walk or something.

Or buy bikes.

Flamingojune · 09/05/2026 17:47

WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself · 09/05/2026 15:49

The insufferable prig stage is usually over by the time they are 21. Tell your “lovely” son to stop lecturing and to grow up.

Not all young people go through such a stage

CatA27 · 09/05/2026 17:45

If he comes round when you are still in bed start bouncing up and down on the bed and make 'noises' hopefully he'll be that mortified he'll at least quit shaming you for having a lie in!

ManintheCity · 09/05/2026 17:45

OP , are you sure about his age 25? he sounds like a teenager who still knows everything!

Agapornis · 09/05/2026 17:40

Ard · 09/05/2026 13:45

Ok, I'm going against the grain but this latest update sounds worrying and a bit like a life coaching cult. People have lost loads of money and been encouraged to cut off their families etc all due to the influence of charismatic people who exhort them to 'push themselves'. I'd be continuing to engage with him, but maybe asking questions him on where he gets his inspiration from etc.

Yes this - has he paid lots of money for these books, seminars, courses etc? Does he spend a lot of time on social media? Does he think he's friends with these people? If so these are known scams targeting young men for ££££. They behave like cults.

Has he ever had a girlfriend? How does he speak about women? Next he'll be on the misogynist incel seminars.

Nothing like the zeal of the convert.

CliantheLang · 09/05/2026 17:24

Netcurtainnelly · 09/05/2026 16:27

sorry but your DH does need to do something does he have any hobbies apart from eating and watching TV sounds unhealthy.
What about you do you exercise. How about you and DH go out for a walk or something.

If we're doing unsolicited advice, you need to work on your Main Character Syndrome.

PyongyangKipperbang · 09/05/2026 17:24

I agree that it sounds very cult like. Also I wonder if there is some Manosphere type stuff going on, a lot of them are obsessed with fitness, pushing themselves etc to "prove" their manliness. Could well be that they assured him that women will be falling over themselves to sleep with him and it hasnt happened.

MilkyLeonard · 09/05/2026 16:53

Netcurtainnelly · 09/05/2026 16:27

sorry but your DH does need to do something does he have any hobbies apart from eating and watching TV sounds unhealthy.
What about you do you exercise. How about you and DH go out for a walk or something.

You’re missing the point though. The OP’s husband hasn’t hired a life coach or personal trainer whose advice he is now ignoring. It is unsolicited interference from a family member who had been told more than once to stop.

OriginalSkang · 09/05/2026 16:49

It won't be long before you hear about how the government use alcohol and mainstream to control the people

Newusernameforthiss · 09/05/2026 16:48

Ard · 09/05/2026 14:47

His phone never stops pinging. Cutting people out of his life for minor things like drinking coffee or watching TV. Trying to convert others. Sudden changes in behaviour. These are classic signs of being sucked in by a cult.

I was going to say this!! The total change in behaviour sounds really strange. Sounds really creepy, I'm sorry you're all going through this.

tiptoethrutulips · 09/05/2026 16:34

He sounds completely insufferable. Not lovely at all.

BoldnessReborn · 09/05/2026 16:30

It's not his home any more so even if it suits you for him to have a set of keys, he uses them only by prior arrangement (popping round to water your plants if you go away), not to drop in. Bolt the door at night and unbolt it when you are happy to answer it. Tell him he is invited for lunch or whatever and establish a loose pattern of meetings and explain that he should ask to come round otherwise, not appear.

I would also develop your own activities you like to do with him one on one, and encourage your husband and him to do the same; for example they could go for a regular, unambitious walk in nature or go fishing or mountain biking or go to auctions or whatever it might be. Let them find common ground involving gentle physical activity rather than threaten your husband with the loss of his sedentary identity.

Netcurtainnelly · 09/05/2026 16:27

sorry but your DH does need to do something does he have any hobbies apart from eating and watching TV sounds unhealthy.
What about you do you exercise. How about you and DH go out for a walk or something.

MilkyLeonard · 09/05/2026 16:21

I was having a glass of wine in the garden yesterday after work when Ds walked through the side gate and gave me a lecture about the negative affects of alcohol which turned into how good he feels without it in his life and how disciplined he is now because he doesn’t watch tv and he doesn’t eat this and that and doesn’t understand people who let their mind rot with tv, alcohol, caffeine etc so he’s either left those people behind or trying to change them or open their eyes to their misgivings now that he pushes himself to get up early and go for a run in the rain and convince everyone how wonderful his mindset is but it’s all he talks about, he’ll ring me and talk about nothing else but how he’s changed his life and I should read this self help book and listen to this paragraph.

He sounds insufferable.

He clearly isn’t going to stop, so you need to make it clear you’re not listening. Each and every time he starts this routine, cut him off. Talk over him if you have to. No polite pussyfooting - you’re not interested.

WonsWoo · 09/05/2026 16:14

One of my friends had a similar issue with her DS. He completely changed when he left Uni and became overly judgy of everyone and everything. He is in his 30s now and they have unfortunately drifted apart because he would not accept that he was hurting his family. She sees him maybe twice a year.

Pallisers · 09/05/2026 15:58

He will unexpectedly call round early on a weekend and ask why we’re still in bed. This will be about 8:30-9 when he’s been up and been for a run already.

Respond to this with "I thought we already had the sex talk with you. Maybe turn up a bit later and we'll be up/finished" he won't do that again.

The only charitable thought I can have is that he is worried about his dad's health. Maybe sit down with him and tell him you are two grown adults and have been living independent lives without interference for years now. you know what he thinks and that's fine but you don't want incessant advice and you don't want his judgement so how about when he comes over you have a cup of coffee and a chat instead of the complaints.

AngryHerring · 09/05/2026 15:56

myfairladies · 09/05/2026 13:22

No other hyper fixation before this.
It just started with him reading a few self help books and then a few more and then going to seminars of motivational speakers and his conversations started by saying how much it all makes sense and he was transforming his mind but now it seems to have changed him too much.
I think he thinks he’s the motivational speaker now.
I don’t know where he gets his diet and fitness advice from but his exercise routine is more about mind discipline than fitness as he goes to the gym for that but runs miles and miles just to push himself.
It hasn’t just happened overnight, it’s gradually becoming all consuming.

I think he thinks he’s the motivational speaker now.

hahaha - he really isn't. Tell him that if he thinks he is the next Tony Robbins he has a whole massive other think coming. And to work on his "bedside manner".

Do this while smoking a joint, and drinking a pint of lard.

WithLoveFromMyselfToYourself · 09/05/2026 15:49

The insufferable prig stage is usually over by the time they are 21. Tell your “lovely” son to stop lecturing and to grow up.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 09/05/2026 15:39

Onmytod24 · 09/05/2026 15:24

Being overweight in the obese category is a prime component of most illnesses. You check your facts.

Did the OP say he was in the obese category?

AcrossthePond55 · 09/05/2026 15:37

myfairladies · 09/05/2026 13:22

No other hyper fixation before this.
It just started with him reading a few self help books and then a few more and then going to seminars of motivational speakers and his conversations started by saying how much it all makes sense and he was transforming his mind but now it seems to have changed him too much.
I think he thinks he’s the motivational speaker now.
I don’t know where he gets his diet and fitness advice from but his exercise routine is more about mind discipline than fitness as he goes to the gym for that but runs miles and miles just to push himself.
It hasn’t just happened overnight, it’s gradually becoming all consuming.

I may be way off base, but he sounds like someone who has had an addiction and conquered it or like a person who has 'discovered' religion and who now believes they have a mission to convert the entire world. I'm not saying he was an addict, but was he living an 'unhealthy' lifestyle or perhaps 'partying' too much when he first got out on this own? Could he possibly have a girlfriend who's a 'fitness nut' but he doesn't want her to meet you because you don't live up to her standards?

The thing is, if any of the above rings true, you will never be able to 'gently' get through to him that he is being rude and insufferable. It's probably going to take some hard words like "Son, just shut up. You are living your life the way you want so please allow us to do likewise. Your 'advice' (yes, use finger quotes) is unwanted and unhelpful". If he keeps on then either keep repeating or ask him to leave until he can be more respectful. If nothing else, tell your DH that if he will not confront your son and tell him to knock it off (not argue about it, just 'shut up' or words to that effect) he's effectively putting up with it so he needs to stop complaining to you about it.

As far as the unwanted visits you have a right to set boundaries. Tell him not to visit before 10am (or later) as you will be sleeping in and do not want to be disturbed. I don't know that I'd go so far as to change the locks right now, but I would tell him that he needs to ring before he comes over or at the very least knock & announce himself before he enters.

After we left home we never simply walked into our parents' home unless we'd called first. If we hadn't we'd ring or knock, then open the door and give a 'Hello, anyone home?" and wait for a reply. My children do the same. Of course, with my children it may have more to do with the fact that I sometimes walk around the house naked. No one wants to see that!!!

Pinkissmart · 09/05/2026 15:37

Explain to your son that no one likes unsolicited advice.

Tell him you’re still in bed at the weekends because you like a nice leisurely shag. That’ll shut him up.

30mins · 09/05/2026 15:34

Your son is going through a sanctimonious phase. Seasoned with the dunning Kruger effect. Being healthy in the body does not mean healthy in relationships and mind. His dad needs to draw a line and say, son, I’m proud of you, now leave me the hell alone in my own home. I raised you to have more respect. …

EverydayRoutine · 09/05/2026 15:29

Ugh, what an absolute pill he sounds. People who talk incessantly about their diet and exercise habits are among the most annoying and boring people in the world. If they only talk about themselves, it’s bad enough. Once they start criticising others, as your son does, they tend to be truly insufferable.

He’s not a teenager discovering new ideas, he’s an adult who clearly hasn’t learned how to interact politely with his own family. I would try to talk to him about his behaviour, but if he’s unwilling to listen, I would limit the time spent with him. There’s no way I would put up with being insulted and lectured to in my own home.

BeardySchnauzer · 09/05/2026 15:28

Onmytod24 · 09/05/2026 15:22

Your husband, you say is very overweight and spends a lot of time sitting in front of the telly that is an ideal scenario for an early death. Your son might be irritating, but he’s absolutely right. He doesn’t want a dead dad. Perhaps your husband should go to the GP and ask for advice on losing weight and getting fitter get a health check if he takes the advice of the GP then he’s got something to reassure your son with.

OP says he is overweight - not very overweight

she says he likes to watch telly - not that he spends a lot of time in front of it

if her DS was truly concerned about his dad he would have heard what she was saying and realised he is not helping and would take a different approach.

Washingupdone · 09/05/2026 15:27

Do you have other children living nearby? He could be worried that he may have to be the sole carer for his relatively young parents because they did not look after their health in middle age?