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7am and DH arguing with me already

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NeverGetADayOff · 09/05/2026 07:33

My DH has just left in a massive huff. He is going out for the day with DC2.

Context: I have 2 jobs, have DC to look after, a needy elderly relative and am studying at the moment. I am very busy and very tired. I've had a very rough 6 months.

Today, I sort of have a day off. I have some errands to run, and I have to do some studying, but it should be OK. I was lying in bed watching the news and DH came in and reminded me that there is a workman coming over today to mock up some plans. He wants to do this and that in the house and I have to decide what I want etc. He wants wooden floors in the bedroom and it renovated. I told my DH I do not want to spend 25K renovating a couple of bedrooms.

My reasons are: We put our house on the market before covid and it had not appreciated in value at all after 7 years as it was clearly an overpriced new build when we bought it. Also, we like our house, but it is not everyone's cup of tea. First time round, no one was interested. Secondly, my youngest is going to uni next year, and I don't see a long term future in this massive house. Finally, I have moved around a lot in my life (moved up and down the country and abroad a few times) and I have no attachment to this area or this house. It is not my home town, and if I was asked to leave the day after my DC2 went to uni, either in the UK or abroad, I would. This is not what I said to my DH, I just said I don't want to spend 25K on a couple of bedrooms until I was sure the house had appreciated and it wasn't money down the toilet.

So I am standing in the kitchen at 0700 on my day off trying to get a cup of coffee and he comes in the kitchen and starts ranting that he will cancel the workman and he's all agitated. I didn't raise my voice but I did say something like "OMG, it is 7am and you are on my case already. I said I will talk to the workman, I will do it and see what he says. It is just that I want to see where our house is at before we spend that". He carried on so I said "OMG you have literally ruined my day. I was looking forward to getting some stuff done and a bit of chilling on a rare day off and you are on my back at the crack of dawn".

Honestly, it is like having a stroppy manager who is on your back the second you walk through the door at work with you standing there with sleep in your eyes and a Starbucks in your hand.

Also, he presents things as a joint decision, but if I say hmm, what about this, he gets annoyed as really, he wants his own way.

It wasn't a shouting match or anything, but I was so looking forward to today, and now he has made me feel anxious, stressed and I want to cry.

Who IBU

OP posts:
plsdontlookatme · 10/05/2026 19:42

NeverGetADayOff · 09/05/2026 07:50

I know this all sounds like a storm in a tea cup, but it has really upset me. I usually just go along with whatever he wants to keep the peace, which obviously is not a good thing. We don't argue.

There is a reason for this. There have been a couple of times in our marriage where he has said "I don't want to be married anymore" and it was pretty awful when this happened. It usually follows me pushing back on something I don't like. Both times I was devastated and scared as I was a SAHM and it went on for a few months. We had small DC, then tweens. This is why I have 2 jobs, and study. I never want to feel that vulnerable again.

I'm sitting here thinking that I should have just gone "yes dear" as I don't need the stress of him being in a mood or pulling out the "not sure if I want to be married card" right now. I did tell myself that he has done this twice, and on the 3rd time I will 100% take him at his word and end it.

That is quite a jump from bedroom renovation to marriage issues.

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He sounds awful tbh. My ex would blame me for all his problems, have a massive freakout and tell me he didn't want to be with me any more. Both times he seemed genuinely surprised and devastated that I took him at his word. Anyway, I'm done with that. Twice was more than enough for me. I'm a big fan of calling bluffs - play stupid games win stupid prizes.

thestudio · 10/05/2026 19:36

As so often on MN, my view is 'this man is a bona fideeeey controlling cunt who is half the man his woman is".

OP, why do you put up with this? You are worth so, so much more.

Walig54 · 10/05/2026 19:34

This is probably what you have heard before but:

Do you want to live your life as an underling?
Do you want to live your life as an equal?
What do you get out of this relationship?
Do you feel used?
How do you want to progress via your education?
How does he view your ambitions in life?
Do you feel like a slave to his ambitions?

There are obviously more questions to ask about your life and ambitions but this is only a beginning to set your mind off on its own orbit around your universe.

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 10/05/2026 19:33

NeverGetADayOff · 09/05/2026 11:06

I didn't say cancel the workman. I agreed to him coming. DH is the one who went off in a huff and then cancelled him and has sent me a diary cancellation like a work colleague.

I just woke up, turned on the news to see where Labour are at, and he stood over me saying the workman is coming, you need to decide TODAY what you want, it is 25K.

My pushback wasn't that I wasn't willing to see him. It was "that's a lot of money to spend when we don't know how we are going to feel in 18 months. I'd be more comfortable knowing what our house is worth now, and if it has appreciated, before I spend any more money on it".

When it was on the market before, we had a few people look at it. The man always loved it as it is full of hi tech e.g. you can operate a lot via a home pod. The women seemed to not like it at all. If it had stayed on the market I think we would have had to reduce the price and literally have made a loss on it.

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Apparently several people either haven't read your posts, @NeverGetADayOff , or lack the comprehension skills to actually understand and process what you have said.

Your DH sounds like a manipulative and controlling arsehole.

Booking a workman to come on your day off without discussing it with you first.

Trying to railroad you into agreeing to a ridiculously expensive and unnecessary refurb.

Expecting lavish meals cooked on your day off.

Sulking and huffing around if you ever express an opinion that is different from his.

Twice threatening you with ending the marriage.

Honestly, I wouldn't wait for him to threaten a third time, I'd tell him I wanted out.

Imagine waking up in your own place, cooking and eating whatever you wanted, just doing whatever you wanted... bliss.

Do you really want to spend your working life fitting in around after him, and then all day every day of your retirement?

MMAS · 10/05/2026 19:19

I have read all your answers. You are seriously being controlled.

I do not think you understand that or, maybe are so worn down by everything that all fight apart from this has left you. That tiny bit of fight is so good. Build on it.

It smacks that he may already be sensing that tiny bit of fight. He can no longer threaten you like he did when a SAHM. Only you can stop him having that level of control ever again.

You have two options.

The first is you bow down and accept what he wants and that is going to be your life going forward until the day one of you dies. He will continue to diminish you.

The second is to make a plan to leave him with all your ducks in a row i.e. consult a solicitor. Only you can do that.

Narcissists often have a partial or fluctuating awareness of their behaviour, rather than total ignorance or complete self-awareness. While they may not acknowledge having a disorder, they are generally aware of their actions such as manipulation, lying, or cruelty but justify them, blame others, or lack the empathy to care about the impact.

Take that little bit of fight you have left within you to make a new life for yourself. Your family will be fine x You will be fine.

realsavagelike · 10/05/2026 19:12

Amazing how many people are missing the actual issue highlighted by OP's post. The main concern is not the ins and outs of DIY. It is the fact she is very likely married to a covert narcissist. I had one. So much better off as a single parent of 3 with minimal involvement from him. OP, look up covert narcissism and see if it rings any bells.

Skates · 10/05/2026 18:56

Is your husband no good at diy. Painting walls and laying floors is the absolute least a man should know how to do. The only thing I won’t do is water and electricity. Apart from changing sockets and taps new lights

Therescathairinmybath · 10/05/2026 18:47

Spending 25k on a divorce and therapy would give you much more satisfaction than wooden floors @NeverGetADayOff

Blades2 · 10/05/2026 18:44

I mean this with kindness, but not a hope in hells chance would I be entertaining a man riling me up at 7am on my day off.

justasking111 · 10/05/2026 18:37

@NeverGetADayOff on your day off make your own plans. If you're going out cancel the workmen. Or just lock up and go if you can't. Push back.

BTW in the EA industry they'll tell you a wooden floor in the bedroom devalues a property because women don't like them.

Manxexile · 10/05/2026 18:34

Hadn't you and your DH talked about all this before arranging for a workman to come in on a Saturday to mock up some plans.

Why didn't you tell him last week that you didn't want to spend £25k on the bedrooms just now?

Or did he just spring this on you today?

Feis123 · 10/05/2026 18:17

Nosleepagain34 · 09/05/2026 07:37

There are clearly multiple issues here but there is no point in spending£25k on flooring for two rooms when you have two jobs and are studying. It clearly shows money is tight as you can’t afford one job and studying.
It will make no difference to the resale value of the house either.

How the f is it that the first point always nails it? Why? But yes, the first post always nails it.

BountifulPantry · 10/05/2026 18:16

How is it physically possible to eat a kilo of yoghurt a day? That’s just a massive quantity !

BountifulPantry · 10/05/2026 18:14

You both sound pretty wound up.

Can you book a holiday and actually relax? Your relationship sounds super SUPER stressful.

Don’t make any decisions in anger or fear. Go and calm the fuck down first. Yelling about workman at 7am just isn’t a decent way to live your life.

Comtesse · 10/05/2026 18:13

What a knob. He sounds like an entitled little prince with his 1kg of yoghurt and £15 steaks and fancy eggs. He’s your husband not your boss.

Wotchawotsits · 10/05/2026 18:00

No wonder you're exhausted. Apart from anything you're having to stand up to someone who is trying to control everything and then kicks off like a kid if you don't go along with it. The 'you've ruined my day" was a bit immature from you but I can see where you're coming from.
I've also experienced the I'm ending the marriage, now I'm not side of things. I found it unsettling and lost my trust. Also the controlling abd expecting me to deal with everything on my days off too. I left because I couldn't hack it anymore. I'm not suggesting you do that but he needs to take some responsibility for being there for workmen etc and for his behaviour for you to feel ok. You need to look after your health both mentally and physically. Please don't get ground down. I did and am still taking time to get back to my true self.

JJMama · 10/05/2026 17:56

BarbiesDreamHome · 09/05/2026 07:44

The biggest problem is why workmen are even booked to come over when you don't both agree you want the work done.

This. You’re not on the same page with anything - suggest a chat about what you told us on here is in order.

As an aside, absolute pointless spending that much money on flooring. Keep it to help your child at uni and then facilitate leaving to move and live somewhere you actually like yourself.

Ginmonkeyagain · 10/05/2026 08:59

Missing the point a little, but he eats 1KG of yoghurt A DAY? Is he made of yoghurt?

I eat a bowl of plain yoghurt with museli every day for breakfast and use it regularly in cooking and a kilo lasts us about 7 days and sometimes more.

Gettingbysomehow · 09/05/2026 19:46

I had a husband like this OP who was always threatening to leave and when I hit the menopause Id had enough of that shit and said well please fuck off then. Ive lived happily alone ever since. Unlike him.
He spent a few years begging to come back but I was done.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 09/05/2026 18:04

Cycleaway · 09/05/2026 08:24

that sounds like such a lot of money - if you’re prepared to go along with the wooden floors, I’d be wanting a couple of other people to come in and quote for the job to check the price. Seriously, we had builders in for six weeks before Christmas and it didn’t cost us that much

There are so many things to unpick in this situation. The dynamic of your relationship sounds off and you don’t seem happy. Your partner is making decisions about your time and money without discussing it. You seem to fear voicing and opinion, and also assume his thoughts towards you are negative. You sound stressed and tired, and going along with things to keep the peace. This flooring thing just seems like the catalyst for you to examine how you’re really feeling about our life and relationship. Are you waiting for him to threaten to end things again so that you can agree it this time?

It a bit extreme to say the whole day is ruined - it the day didn’t start off as you’d expected, but the whole day isn’t ruined. But it’s easy to feel like that when you’re tired and stressed out. Make yourself a cuppa and sit and drink it quietly. Grab some moments to have the rest you need, and then maybe start to think about how you feel about life going forwards

Well, I think that @NeverGetADayOff is in a much better position to know whether her day has been ruined, or not.

I expect that after the workmen have gone, the OP could have started to feel better, especially if she had got the support from here, that she definitely needs from somewhere. Unfortunately, she chose to come to Mumsnet, on a Saturday morning, where all the worst Mumsnetters seem to be on display today!

Dear NeverGetADayOff, I think you are an
amazing Warrior Woman, who has put up with far too much shit from your not so dear Husband, and if you don't want to actually separate (yet?) please try to fit in some counselling, because you need to understand just how strong and capable you are, and that if you decide that your life would be both calmer, and much more pleasant, without that controlling man child in it. The right - for you - counsellor, could help you greatly with building your confidence back up.

However, out of all the possibilities, please don't let it all return to your normal day to day struggle with life. 🙏 To start with, even the smallest of steps can begin with a similar progress to that of a tiny snowball, which, with a little bit of patience, and even more determination, can achieve the best and biggest body, and head, for a ginormous, and all powerful snowlady and but please don't wait for next winter to start that
process!! 🤗

Lastly, have you got a date for when your studying finishes completely, or maybe for the summer holidays, because I think that you are very much in need of a holiday, hopefully one without your husband, and maybe without your DC too. When I was roughly at the same stage of life as you are now, I used to (day) dream of just disappearing for a few days to my secret happy place. Maybe I should have really done it, and maybe, if you haven't got any young children, you should think about doing something similar?

I started typing this in the late morning, but then I had to do some boring stuff, and now it is almost the evening, so I hope that I haven't missed anything too important, or that you have all packed up for the night. I hope that by now your day has improved massively OP 🩷

Pinkdumpling · 09/05/2026 17:47

The last man that started well tried to start an argument with me at 8am in the morning, found his stuff on the outside of the front door when he came back and the locks changed.

I like my mornings quiet.
Thank god im single.

AggroPotato · 09/05/2026 17:46

IHate · 09/05/2026 12:40

So, end it, ffs. Are you reading your own posts? This man is horrible to you. Why are you just passively accepting all this?

Couldn't agree more. He's horrible and OP accepts it because she wants to stay married to him.

I can't see a single reason why.

Also, the 16 year old should be capable of cooking, and should be doing their own washing.

OP is just the house elf in this setup. Fuck that, it sounds miserable.

HelenHywater · 09/05/2026 16:14

Why can't he buy his own yoghurt?

aloris · 09/05/2026 15:33

I read your posts but not the full thread. Forgive me if I'm repeating something already said. The first thing you need to do is tell him that there is to be no more of him making appointments for you on your day off, or on weekends, without ASKING you first. That means it must be phrased as a question and the appointment doesn't get made until/unless you say yes. If you say "no" he is to accept that. He will likely push back. How he does that, and how that discussion ends up (him yelling? Telling you it's time to divorce? Accusing you of all sorts?) will give you a LOT of information you can use to decide what to do next.

At this point, you have no control over your own schedule. You are being treated like his minion. It is demeaning, not to mention the way it means you can never have true rest because of the possibility he will burst in with some task for you, that totally changes your schedule, and that you MUST DO lest he punish you with verbal lashings. That is (IMO) why you feel so low. You need to set a boundary. You are allowed to do that. The question is, what does he do when you set a boundary.

Cloverforever · 09/05/2026 15:30

abracadabra1980 · 09/05/2026 14:38

I'm older than you, OP. Reading between the lines on an emotional level, I can see a distinct incompatibility between you both. You seem to be subservient and are starting to resent it. I have been married twice; both exH made me feel this way, albeit it wasn't the reason we broke up. All I can say, is that I am the happiest in my life, now I'm single, living alone, without anyone else's moods or opinions and I pinch myself how lucky I am to be in the situation I am in, now, albeit when exH1 left me, I was blindsided and devastated. Now, all decisions made are mine alone, which makes me feel secure and happy. I have recently semi retired, also downsized to the type of home/area I should always have lived in and I spend my spare time walking in fields with my dogs, wallowing in nature, and peace. I can't remember the last time I shed a tear, which was a frequent occurrence when married, (to both men). Think long and hard about your future --- you are making a start by doing the right thing trying to stand alone, financially. Good luck. PS: Today it is pissing down - I got up, fed the dogs, and we went back to bed/chill until 12.30pm. Not a cross word was heard😜

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I echo this post completely. When you have your own place, can financially stand on your own two feet and have a good network of friends, you will probably wonder why on earth you put up with this behaviour for so long.

Having your own place, and being able to live exactly as you want, is a very beautiful, empowering thing for a woman.