Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour

According to Ai it is 25-44 yrs. 18-50 just seems to be an obscure group to select.

Are you speaking from experience, that you have a low level of education, are unemployed on benefits (that reform want to scrap) and have a hatred of foreign people stealing your job?

Or, are you parroting this line, claiming to speak for a percentage of people when what you say is actually made up rubbish?

The foreigners that are simultaneously getting all the benefits and living in fancy hotels whilst not working, and stealing all the jobs.

Education is definitely the way forward.

Is that you Nige? The lack of self awareness kinda reminds me of all those times you were insulting all those MEPs to their faces. It's mighty ranty and self-righteous for someone with a Party that is only "halfway ready" to lead.

What was your backing music whist you were typing? Go by the Chemical Brothers? I can almost hear you shriek mid way through.

Where did I say I voted reform?

Where I live in a major city, all the white working class areas with very few immigrants have voted for Reform, while the more diverse, multi-ethnic areas have voted Green and Independent.

My ward has gone to Reform. There are lots of elderly white people where I live who don't look in the best of health and Nigel Farage's proposal to get rid of the NHS and move to an insurance model if he wins a General Election would have a massive negative impact on their lives. But getting rid of foreigners is more important apparently.

I'm not sure who you think the 'excessively far left radicals' are??? Most normal people would consider referring to Sunak as an 'effing P*' to be a racial slur - Reform UK canvasser.

In terms of whether we, as a democratic nation who've respected the rule of law since 1215, will be 'powerless' in the face of this Trump inspired onslaught, unlikely. There's no provision whatsoever in our 'constitution' for executive orders and so the Equalities Act and a multitude of other laws will stand. Somewhat famously, we also have the separation of powers that keeps government entirely apart from our courts (again, this stretches back to medieval times) and so there won't be any crony appointments to the benches. For the 'patriotic' Reform party to change this, they would literally have to destroy nearly 1,000 years of English history. As someone who loves my country, I would oppose allowing people to do this. I believe the vast majority of British people, who value our distinct culture, would stand with me.

So to take some of your points:

Pretty sure the average worker doesn't want to see the minimum wage scrapped and zero hour contracts reintroduced. Maybe a bunch of people over the age of 55 don't care so much.

The introduction of VAT on school fees hasn't led to 'many excellent seats of learning closing their doors'. There's no evidence for this. Sure, several schools who were already struggling, and a contributory factor to this has been the massive rise in utilities (and of course the cost of living crisis has impacted the fee paying parents as well), did close but it wasn't due to this single factor. Very disturbing that people want to dumb down their analysis as if the British public can be spoken to like simpletons who can't understand that more than one thing can be true at the same time.

The winter fuel payments haven't been removed, it's just that they're now means tested for those with an income of over £35,000. Are people with more than £35,000 likely to be freezing to death? Sounds like you're making this up.

Didn't answer questions in parliament, have away £millions ... This is so vague as to be meaningless. Are you talking about Johnson refusing to come to parliament and the PPE scandal?

Failed to control mass immigration: it's gone down under Starmer. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact based on evidence. It actually went up under the Tories, some of whom are now in Reform. In other words, a vote for Reform is a vote to allow uncontrolled mass immigration.

The renters rights legislation won't destroy the private rental market. Good landlords won't be affected. Again, you make another claim with absolutely no evidence. If the private rental market was about to collapse, for the past year we'd have seen a housing crash as a glut of properties appeared for sale. This isn't what's happened.

Every government in the past few decades has promised to build new homes and failed to live up to that promise. Are Reform promising to build new homes? What's their exact policy announcement on this?

Failed to address Muslim rape gangs: what are you on about? Starmer is literally the only PM to address this with the Statutory Independent Inquiry into Grooming Gangs launched last month (April 2026). The real issue here is why people who were sitting in the Tory government from 2010, and who have since defected to Reform, did absolutely nothing. I'm other words, if you don't want any action taken on grooming gangs, vote Reform.

Benefits: Ah yes, the strivers and skivers argument. Probably needs a separate thread.

Actually, didn't allow Palestinian marches, moved to stop them resulting in 1,000s of arrests, is married to a Jew and bringing up his children as Jewish. Not sure how you can possibly claim he's anti Semitic.

Not sure about the Epstein thing. Trump is also up to his neck in it. The reason Mandelson was chosen was because he would get on with Trump, like Farage does, they're really good mates.

In terms of reversing BREXIT, he hasn't though has he? Despite a massive parliamentary majority, he's respected the will of the people. It's just another one of your dog whistles.

Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts: very vague, are you talking about Johnson again and the bevvy of Tories who've now joined Reform?

Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked: an issue he inherited from the people now in Reform who ran the MOD for 14 years.

Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran: caused by Trump. Let's be clear. Issues that we now have are because of Trump's policies. Farage loves Trump. He respects those policies.

Green energy isn't what's wrecking our economy. The financial crash of 2008 did that. I believe Farage was a trader at this time. Poor Reform voters don't even realise that they're literally electing the people responsible for this whole mess. Of course they're blaming green energy because they don't want people to find out it was them really. For example, Yusuf was right in the thick of it. He worked at both Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs before the crash.

Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side: presumably, these are the same working people who want to live in unregulated rentals and forgo the protection of a minimum / liveable wage? Median UK household income is about £37k.

What a very bizarre and quite ludicrous comment. Are you feeling quite alright?

I see you are keen to prove @Winteriscoming80 s point though.

Reporting the Greens ridiculous policies and anti women stance is not ‘anti-Green rhetoric’.

They proudly deny the existence of women as a sex distinct from men and seek to deny women our sex based rights (plus a load of other policies that are hurting women), they can’t get any more anti women than that but you need to accept that they are responsible for their views.

shed load of anti feminist Reform bile

Do you have any Reform policies or direct quotes that reflect your rather sweeping claim against them? Interestingly no one else with your views has been able to produce anything of substance. Maybe you can?

That’s cool, I look forward to watching a Reform government in action.
It is precisely what you deserve, and it will be delicious to see.

It will be like watching the Walking Dead in real life. Highly entertaining.

Now I did not vote reform.

However lower levels of education meaning more likely to vote reform would explain more of the hatred towards immigration on the basis of the jobs the lower paid immigrants take are the very same jobs that are open to them. Also living in economically lower paid areas. Putting pressure on housing and such.

So to them it would make perfect sense because what they see to them is these people coming over and taking their jobs and pushing them out.

If you’re a nice high earner with a uni degree living in a leafy suburb those problems are unlikely to be impacting on your life or feel like they are.

So I can see why it makes sense to them.

Doesn’t mean reform will fix it but I guess it feels like the only option they have that might do something to help them.

Honestly, if you are a person with any chance of losing your job, a carer, a member of any group which currently has protected characteristics, have the future misfortune to become very sick or disabled etc, this party are not going to support you. If you ever need to claim benefits you'll become one of the people on the receiving end of the 'scrounger' rhetoric unless you can self fund a decent standard of living through the bad times, as long as they last. And there aren't actually many of us that could do that.
Obviously for now they are only able to influence decisions at a local level. But, I hope people will think a lot more about the potential for disaster in their own lives if this lot were elected to government.

One random undated fb post isn’t evidence of your claim.

If you constantly dismiss anyone who disagrees with your views as stupid, you’re going to keep being surprised.

Why just that age range? What special properties does that group have? Or are you just trying to visually demonstrate lies, damn lies and statistics?

I’ve not said who I support.

Your anti Green rhetoric is telling, however you have a shed load of anti feminist Reform bile to defend. So crack on.

Still nothing to say about Reforms strident anti feminist beliefs.

The VE day where we celebrate victory over what kind of regime? Oh yes, one very similar to... Reform/Restore 🙄
And you hope NF gets to keep his mega EU pension whilst hoping other public servants lose theirs? Why begrudge them theirs? Even if they didn't do much for 40 years they still will have done a lot more than he did for his. Or is it just because you are presuming they have different politics to you?

Why do you support disgusting misogynists like the Greens? What is your problem with women?

I’m not rich or elite. I’m of a working class background. I fundamentally disagree with them and all they stand for.

As a woman, a working mother and someone with an ‘immigrant’ parent, what could these people do for me and my family? Let alone the country.

They do a good job of pretending to be ‘just like you’. They do a good job of weaponising people’s anger at the hardships they face and that their local services have been consistently underfunded and mismanaged. They also lean into the fact that people just don’t like certain groups of people. And all while pointing a few vulnerable people on a boat as if they’re the ones to blame, no one will question what they’re getting out of it. I don’t believe it’s you or me who will benefit from them holding any sort of power. They’re telling us how they’re willing to treat people, if they did manage to do anything about immigration there’ll be another group in firing line next.

The image you posted above was from a social media bot account, likely a foreign provocateur. No one in real life thinks thinks this was a general election.

Wow so you ignore all the above and don’t wish to comment on it or even excuse it. Wow, just wow!

Copying pasting a load of random links doesn’t make the Greens pro women or any less dangerous.

Green supporters turn up to women’s right marches to assault women and shout TERF abuse at them.

Anyone who thinks that a woman can have a penis, basically hates women. If you want to support women hating parties, that’s on you.

I agree with you op,only the middle class/rich or the elites won’t agree with you,
they don’t see what goes on day to day,
people need to realise that calling us far right or neo whatever carries no weight with us anymore.

Here we go again. 'If you say I'm stupid I'll punch myself in the face'. Well, you're stupid then. Have fun.

@thepariscrimefiles They bought some flags.🤣

Have a look at Warwickshire. Reform have given them lots of.....flags....