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Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour

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hollyandtheivy26 · 08/05/2026 23:37

Aplogies for the typo in the title. If you think this makes me look stupid, you are proving that you are a bigoted bully, flailing around in desperation. It's just a typo, entirely down to a slightly sub par keyboard.

Restore took all ten council seats. Anywhere it stood, it won. Many Reform voters have indicated they'd have voted Restore but since they were unavailable they voted Reform as next best. Starmer still refusing to leave, in line totalitarian dictators of old, Starmer's response being, basically "People didn't vote for us because we didn't do all the things they didn't want and didn't vote for even faster".

Farage's Reform UK Party currently standing at 1237 Seats - having won 1235 seats. Starmer's Labour Party has lost 1,108 Seats and retains only 801. And literally 10/10 for Restore :)

So the question is - do the excessively far left radicals (who are highly active on mumsnet but have never represented the majority in real life) still believe that repeatedly using the slur of racist and calling the majority of British people stupid for having absolutely standard uncontroversial reviews, was the right thing to do? Will you continue to use that failed tactic in an attempt to silence your opponents?

Further to that, are you aware that calling me racist, stupid and the others slurs you are itching to type is an obvious and ignorant own goal and only proves the point I am making?

Or do you find shouting slurs at the majority of UK citizens cathartic, so you will still attempt to use these slurs, despite them no longer having any meaning or power?

YABU

Or have you finally understood that the majority of the UK are standard, average people hold uncontroversial views and that they have perfectly valid reasons to vote Reform and Restore? Are you able to understand that people you have been trying to silence with the slurs of Nazi, racist and "far right" are in fact perfectly centrist, commonplace and average voters? Can you learn from your mistakes moving forward?

YANBU

To assist you with critical thinking, here's a quick recap of Starmer's failures:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.
Raised the minimum wage and National Insurance contributions, leading to thousands of job losses and businesses folding.
Continuing to pursue the politics of envy, introduced VAT to private school fees leading to many excellent seats of learning closing their doors.
Removed winter fuel payments to pensioners, despite his own party claiming a couple of years earlier that this would result in pensioner deaths.
Consistently refused to answer questions during the session in the parliamentary week set aside for this specific purpose.
Unilaterally gave away billions of pounds of taxpayers money with no accountability required from the recipient.
Failed to control mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
Introduced legislation that will destroy the private rental market and create hundreds of thousands of homeless families.
Promised to build 1.5 million homes in five years despite everyone telling him it would be impossible.
Failed to address muslim rape gangs.
Increased welfare payments to a point where benefits now cost more than the entire income tax take.
Allowed weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches on UK streets.
Completly ignored the massive rise of anti semitism, attempted to gaslight the UK on the subject.
Consistently referred to people with concerns about the proliferation of migrant violence as "Far Right".
Promoted a friend to high office while knowing he was chums with one of the most prolific paedophiles on the planet.
Consistently worked to reverse the result of the biggest democratic vote in British history by stealth.
Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts.
Invited a known islamist terrorist to No.10 while simultaneously banning foreign commentators from the UK for merely reporting on the border fiasco.
Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked.
Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran.
Continues to allow Ed Milliband to wreck the UK's energy industry with his unworkable and deeply unpopular Net Zero policies.
Consistently failed to accept responsibility for any wrong doing.
Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side.

Well, Britain is going to bed refreshed and energised, a new day has dawned, the British are delighted to see the first step taken towards celebrating and reinstating the British way of life (insert obvious and boring comment from radical far leftist as British people are not allowed to have the same rights as other countries to enjoy and be enthusiastic about, or celebrate their thousands of years of heritage).

Well done Reform, you'll do for now until Restore has the time to swoop in and win across the board :)

And well done Restore, an amazing start - figuratively and literally ten out of ten :)

What a huge relief 😍

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TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 15:33

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 15:23

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics. Two years ago Labour won a landslide, now this mess.

As Restore politicians take up office and realise delivering is more difficult than sniping, the picture could change rapidly. They’re also about to be put under far mor scrutiny; it’s easy to be popular when you don’t have to implement anything.

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics

That is very true. Three years ago the Tories were polling at 25% Labour at 43% Reform at 7%. Plenty of time for current polling to be upended in the same way the polls from three years ago have been.

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 15:23

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics. Two years ago Labour won a landslide, now this mess.

As Restore politicians take up office and realise delivering is more difficult than sniping, the picture could change rapidly. They’re also about to be put under far mor scrutiny; it’s easy to be popular when you don’t have to implement anything.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 14:53

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 14:44

Strange that women would feel that way though surely.

A lot of teenagers/ young men who think AT is great have girlfriends. I can only imagine they somehow believe the misogyny is not directed towards them. The whole 'you're not like other girls' thing...

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 14:44

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 11:49

I'm pretty sure NF being linked to AT will not put off anyone considering a Reform vote. In fact, I would genuinely be more surprised if I heard someone say they voted Reform but they didn't agree with AT!

Strange that women would feel that way though surely.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 14:24

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 14:05

Yet.

I suspect this might be Reform's peak. There are three years to go, plenty of time for them to be exposed. But Labour and the Tories need need up their games.

But time will tell.

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 14:05

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 12:08

Enjoy what? Reform has won control of 14 out of 131 councils so far. I think there are 5 more results to come in.

That is impressive for a new party, but they have not exactly taken over the whole of local government in England. And they have won no power nationally in Wales and Scotland.

Yet.

ElenOfTheWays · 09/05/2026 13:51

Labour are unpopular and are definitely failing at a lot of what they should be doing. Many of them ate not just incompetent but actually seem to be actual imbeciles. I personally loathe Starmer and consider him a vacuous moral coward.

They also appear to hate women - but show me a party currently that does not. Greens, Reform, Lib Dems.. they are all misogynists in their own way.
Arguing about that is pointless.

There is a lot that needs fixing in the country. A lot wrong with the current government but Reform is NOT the answer.

I'm actually terrified that Reform might win a GE. I can't imagine anything worse.
I wish Labour (as the current incumbents) would get a bloody grip and turn things around before it's too late. They are handing this country over to Nigel Farage. And if that happens, we will not be safe.

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 13:22

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/05/2026 09:25

One random undated fb post isn’t evidence of your claim.

If you constantly dismiss anyone who disagrees with your views as stupid, you’re going to keep being surprised.

I haven't called anyone stupid in this thread or anywhere else. I've merely pointed out that there are voters who appear to believe that voting for Reform in a local election will usher in Reform-led changes at national level.

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 13:20

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:20

Read your post again I correct myself yes Restore won all seats they stood for .I thought you meant Reform won every seat initially.

Don't like any of them to be fair

Yes that’s what I said Restore won all the seats they stood in….which is no mean feat I’d imagine.

they only started up a few months ago too…

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 12:51

Lisanne55 · 09/05/2026 12:48

Can I just point out that some of us had no elections on Thursday? Only about one third of councils in England had elections. The others have them at different times. Approx 26% of people in one third of England voting Reform is sizeable but by no means a majority of people in the UK.

And they’re for council seats not parliament!

Lisanne55 · 09/05/2026 12:48

Can I just point out that some of us had no elections on Thursday? Only about one third of councils in England had elections. The others have them at different times. Approx 26% of people in one third of England voting Reform is sizeable but by no means a majority of people in the UK.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 12:33

ElizaMulvil · 09/05/2026 12:04

What should alarm everyone about Reform is that it is designed as a limited company owned by Farage. It is not a political party like the others in the UK. Members cannot elect the leader etc., cannot send resolutions to conference to be voted on, cannot therefore affect / change its policies, It is deeply undemocratic, founded by Farage who is advertising his fascist beliefs in plain sight. Farage is the leader and cannot be removed.

The British people have fought for their democratic rights since 1215 Magna Carta, 19th century campaigns for universal voting rights for all adults, 20th century votes for women etc etc.

Reform are determined to break with this.

This is straightforward fascism which we hoped we had defeated in WW2. Once Reform/ fascists get into power we will have no ability to remove them by voting them out. The tactic of fascists is to abolish future elections, imprison their political opponents, send them to concentration camps, kill the disabled as a drain on resources, blame the most vulnerable for the problems the working people face.

'First they came for the Communists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for Trade Unionists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out

Because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.'

This was written by Pastor Martin Niemooler who had naively supported Hitler's Nazi/Fascist Party originally until he too was sent to a concentration camp for complaining about Hitler's attacks on his church.

A warning from history.

Yes I agree. It's quite mind blowing that we have local councils now being run by basically a big company which is not a political party. I really don't think it should be allowed, as like you say, they are playing by and are bound by different rules.

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:20

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

Edited

Read your post again I correct myself yes Restore won all seats they stood for .I thought you meant Reform won every seat initially.

Don't like any of them to be fair

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:13

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

Edited

What are you on about..won every single seat?
I think you'll find they didn't.
I'm happy for reform to control some councils at local level because they will fuck it up and show their incompetence before getting a sniff of national power.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 12:08

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 11:32

If some folks can’t control the hysterics at the council election results, they might spontaneously combust when the GE happens. It’s like watching Brexit all over again. So much drama, and such bad loser vibe. You did this to yourselves by constantly calling reasonable people racists. Now enjoy.

Enjoy what? Reform has won control of 14 out of 131 councils so far. I think there are 5 more results to come in.

That is impressive for a new party, but they have not exactly taken over the whole of local government in England. And they have won no power nationally in Wales and Scotland.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 09/05/2026 12:08

hollyandtheivy26 · 09/05/2026 00:10

Oh, I avoided bullet points so nobody would pretend they thought this was Chat GPT, just by the way :)

But it's an easily accessible post, easy to read with a simple list, so hopefully not too much for most of you.

If you find my post difficult to comprehend, please do get off the screens and read more books, that will help with concentration and critical thinking.

And I do apologise for this rather cheap keyboard, will replace asap as it's not helpful to have occasional typos, especially given how desperate some of you are to pretend you the average Reform/Restore voter is stupid 😂

Edited

Maybe if you earned more money you could afford the better keyboard?

Just another incentive for you in favour of minimum wage increasing.

Plus you wouldn't have to use one made by the foreigners you so clearly despise?

ElizaMulvil · 09/05/2026 12:04

What should alarm everyone about Reform is that it is designed as a limited company owned by Farage. It is not a political party like the others in the UK. Members cannot elect the leader etc., cannot send resolutions to conference to be voted on, cannot therefore affect / change its policies, It is deeply undemocratic, founded by Farage who is advertising his fascist beliefs in plain sight. Farage is the leader and cannot be removed.

The British people have fought for their democratic rights since 1215 Magna Carta, 19th century campaigns for universal voting rights for all adults, 20th century votes for women etc etc.

Reform are determined to break with this.

This is straightforward fascism which we hoped we had defeated in WW2. Once Reform/ fascists get into power we will have no ability to remove them by voting them out. The tactic of fascists is to abolish future elections, imprison their political opponents, send them to concentration camps, kill the disabled as a drain on resources, blame the most vulnerable for the problems the working people face.

'First they came for the Communists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for Trade Unionists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out

Because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.'

This was written by Pastor Martin Niemooler who had naively supported Hitler's Nazi/Fascist Party originally until he too was sent to a concentration camp for complaining about Hitler's attacks on his church.

A warning from history.

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 11:49

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 10:55

Farage's mate = Andrew Tate.

I'm pretty sure NF being linked to AT will not put off anyone considering a Reform vote. In fact, I would genuinely be more surprised if I heard someone say they voted Reform but they didn't agree with AT!

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 11:32

If some folks can’t control the hysterics at the council election results, they might spontaneously combust when the GE happens. It’s like watching Brexit all over again. So much drama, and such bad loser vibe. You did this to yourselves by constantly calling reasonable people racists. Now enjoy.

Tableforjoan · 09/05/2026 11:31

Gtfto2024 · 09/05/2026 10:24

Are you speaking from experience, that you have a low level of education, are unemployed on benefits (that reform want to scrap) and have a hatred of foreign people stealing your job?

Or, are you parroting this line, claiming to speak for a percentage of people when what you say is actually made up rubbish?

The foreigners that are simultaneously getting all the benefits and living in fancy hotels whilst not working, and stealing all the jobs.

Education is definitely the way forward.

Edited

No I have a job thank you very much.

Just try to see what might drive those to vote for them rather than just lumping them all as complete idiots.

Though I can see why people don’t bother to get involved in the conversation at all as by making a comment about why they might I’m asked if I’m unemployed and hate foreigners 🤣

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 10:55

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 07:52

I’m not sure this is the flex you think it is.

There a word for voting this way. Cognitive dissonance. Greens hate women.

Women voting for a party that doesn’t believe in women, and thinks that a man can be a woman.

A party that wants legalized class A drugs and prostitution.

A party that wants open borders and mass immigration. And says that all illegal immigrants should be brought in.

Edited

Farage's mate = Andrew Tate.

Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour
SquirrelSoShiny · 09/05/2026 10:47

PomplaMouse · 09/05/2026 01:29

I got as far as "leader of elected government refuses to resign midterm, like a totalitarian dictator".

I know calling them thick doesn't win hearts and minds, but the OP's post is an example of the profound stupidity and social media brain rot that will push the UK - already in decline - over the cliff edge.

I can't help but agree. Adults have outsourced their critical thinking and rely on sloganeering and whatever their mate Barry the Chem Trails Conspiracy Theorist / You Tube / Algorithms have told them.

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 10:42

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 08:04

I’m just glad the boats are finally going to stop now.

Praise be.

Local councils do not decide UK immigration policy.
Unless your comment was sarcasm

NorthXNorthWest · 09/05/2026 10:38

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 08:04

I’m just glad the boats are finally going to stop now.

Praise be.

Under his eye🤣

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