What's going to happen to the north of England and Welsh voters who got royally fucked by Brexit and have now voted Reform?

You are being totally disingenuous. Please quit wit the faux ignorance.

Do you think people object to mass immigration of people who come and earn high salaries and pay more than they take from the system?

I think you need to educate yourself .
Large parts of the North did not even get a vote yesterday so we were no part of it .
I live in Cumbria and we were not voting .

Do You harbour the same level of disdain at the party who turned the town into a shithole? You clearly seem to want the town to stay a shithole, as long as it keeps Reform out.

Just shows how mad leftist ideology is. Hate your opponent, even if it means you have to chop your own limbs off.

True. In any case, a lot of people here voted Plaid Cymru in order to keep Reform from winning.

The UK is stuck in a Buridan’s Ass paradox.

I don't understand the logic. I am a migrant. I go to the doctors, of course I do. I pay taxes just the same as you. I drive what may be considered a fancy car because I have a job which allows me to buy it. It's not been given to me by the council (like some reform voters suggested to me) the minute I stepped onto British soil.
I've also been working in your NHS for the last five years and I am one of only two people working full time in a team of nearly 20 all white British staff. Should I just "go back to my own country"? What improvements might you see in your local area if I do?

The surgeon who performed life saving heart surgery on DH last year was an immigrant. In fact 75% of the cardiac surgeons in the only hospital in our county that performs heart surgery are either immigrants or the offspring of immigrants.

I am also the daughter of an immigrant.

You know all those voters that vote to get Reform out, well there are a great many of us that vote to get Labour out. Who were they meant to vote for instead of Labour, certainly not Green.

A lot of the voters probably just didn't want Labour

A lot of people who voted Brexit did so because they wanted less immigration. They got significantly more immigration. They aren’t being inconsistent in voting again for what they have consistently wanted.

As for the argument that they are thickos: I) how many people predicted the direction of immigration post-Brexit with the correct reasons. I doubt one in twenty voters of any party would have. Did you? II) but the council doesn’t control migration. No, but it’s not thick to think these locals shape national politics, because they do. And councils make relevant policy too.

(Not a reformer myself but hate this sneering)

The impact of Brexit is likely to have been minimal – the decline in returns predates it, and, in practice, few people were returned under the Dublin Agreement (an average of 560 a year between 2008 and 2020).

Oh wow, I didn't know they'd picked up Havering, Essex, Thurrock, Walsall, Suffolk and Sandwell, and moved them all up north.

Or perhaps it isn't a case of northerners being stupid/ignorant? Maybe it's fairly widespread disdain for the system as it is? I'm absolutely not a Reform voter and think their policies are, on the whole, repugnant. But I think it's essential to understand why so many people have aligned themselves with Reform, rather than assuming it's all about brown people or that they're just too stupid to understand. Because if we don't do that, the same people will align themselves with Reform when we have the next general election, which would put us all in real trouble.

Reform actually stopped labour from putting up council tax to the maximum in my area.

Well, no. There is no "first safe country", Brexit or not. The Dublin Treaty basically classed the EU as one destination so each individual member had the legal right to return asylum seekers to the EU country they had passed through. It can be quite difficult for some, but was especially important for us as an island with pretty much all of our traffic coming via France as there was a duty to prevent crossings, which ended with Brexit.

I didn't vote for Reform, but when you're struggling to pay for overpriced shitty housing perhaps owned by a foreign landlord, when there is fierce competition for housing and jobs locally, when you can't get a GP appointment and when you finally do the waiting room is full of migrants, when all the fancy cars in the area are driven by migrants, when all the good-hearted left-wing types choose to volunteer with various asylum seeker projects over any other local concerns, when certain groups of migrants are causing all sorts of issues (loud music, rubbish, and fighting in the street)... then you might just get a bit desperate and sick of migration, and wonder just how your area would look if it hadn't been allowed to happen.

(This is describing my specific local area, not a fictional example.)

The election results by ward are illuminating here. It's the higher immigration places voting Reform - the people actually clearly directly affected by it daily. (With the exception of the ward with the most immigration, including historially, that is now Green due to sheer number of former migrants and second generation migrants voting, combined with the heavy campaigning by Greens as pro-Palestine/pro-Muslim.)

I'm absolutely not a Reform voter (not that we had elections in my area yesterday anyway); but let's not pretend that it's only Reform voters who confuse the local elections with the general elections.

The 'traditional' parties' local branches are very happy to get the votes in based on the colour of the rosette they display, when their party is flying high nationally; but then, when their party nationally is mud, they bitterly complain and insist that they have very little to do with the government/shadow government and how horribly unfair it is to punish them for their poor record, and tar them with the same brush.

Let's be honest: how many voters in local elections do their homework and vote for the individual whom they think is the most competent, trustworthy and able; and how many reckon "Well, I'm a Labour/Tory voter in the general election, so I'll vote locally for whomever has that same party next to his or her name"? OR deliberately do the opposite if they want to signal their extreme displeasure to the central party? Vast numbers of them couldn't even tell you the name of the candidate for whom they just voted - they'll only know that "I voted Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem/Reform" or whoever.

It's the same with organisations like the National Trust, the Co-op, Which? Magazine, the caravan Club and countless others... members all have the right to vote for their preferred candidates for leading the organisation at regular intervals, but how many actually ever bother to do so? Ali G once made one of his trademark ignorant comments about just voting for the one with the funniest name; but I don't actually think he was too far off the mark in reality, for all the difference it makes.

I’m Irish so no skin in the game really. But I watch with interest as reform like parties start to gain traction here. It seems like a significant section of society feel like they have been shafted and they are voting for a party that wants to blow up the status quo.

Treating those voters as stupid is to our detriment. The system isn’t working for people. I don’t think that Reform is the answer but more centrist parties need to learn from their tactics.

I this this illustrates the level of critical thinking that your average Reform voter engages in.

To be fair OP said "What's going to happen to the north of England and Welsh voters who got royally fucked by Brexit and have now voted Reform?"

Wales didn't "vote Reform". Reform won a lot of seats but the largest party is Plaid Cymru. Thankfully.

If the shoe fits....

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But we want are cuntry back.

Why are you people all so obsessed with immigration? I’m sick of hearing about it. Getting rid of immigrants won’t magically make things better you know.

They would be hard pressed to find any of them.

You think Reform gives a shit about them?