AIBU to hope the greens do very well today?

Same here. It's interesting to see that some of Corbyn's old pals have joined the Greens recently. Whatever happened to Your Party I wonder 🤔

I think it's an odd question that can be batted away on philosophical grounds.

The United Kingdom doesn't have 'a right to exist' in its current form in perpetuity because Northern Ireland could trigger a referendum and decide to leave. However, the United Kingdom does have a right to have its sovereignty and borders recognised.

I think it would be better to ask whether Israel has the same rights as any other country and to defend its borders.

I voted Green for years but not any more. Polanski is a clown (as are other politicians, he's not unique...)

Remember this one?

“One in five care workers are foreign nationals,” he [ZP] said. “Now, I don’t know about you – but I don’t particularly want to wipe someone’s bum.”

What's the Mumsnet saying? Believe someone when they tell you who they are?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/zack-polanski-immigration-outburst-typifies-060000132.html

A Jewish person who consistently minimises antisemitism in his own party and elsewhere.

If you're happy with condoning antisemitism/ pretending it doesn't exist then I guess that's also a choice. Not a particularly moral one, but definitely a choice.

It would have been better if you had just acknowledged that the Greens have a big problem with antisemitism, and then explained why you will still be voting for them because eg where you live they are very good on local issues. But that's not what you have said. You have instead elected to minimise antisemitism by finding yourself a lovely little token "good" Jew to champion.

I didnt know that?

Mad as a March hare.

Interesting.... 🤔

Apparently inspired by a character in a Jewish children’s book.

Pride in his identity? His family, all bar his mother, have completely distanced themselves from him. That says an awful lot in my book.

@SunnyAfternoonToday Yes I agree. Something just doesn't add up about him.

Why did he change his first name to Zack?

He may be Jewish by birth but his values do not align with any ones I know of. Awful, awful man when interviewed by Robert Peston for ITV yesterday said he does not think any country, including Israel, has the right to exist.
'The Green Party leader appeared to suggest that the belief the Jewish state had a right to exist was “semantics”. He also indicated that he did not believe Britain had an inherent right to exist when asked about his views by ITV’s Robert Peston.He said: “I don’t believe any country has a right to exist. People have a right to exist, the Israelis have a right to exist, the Palestinians have a right to exist.”
YABVVU OP

Are you happy about the islamic alliance? Not so great for womens or gay rights once they get a grip. Plus all this talk about wealth tax, do you really think rich people will stay! I live in a council house and if greens got power we'd be off, probably have to live in a van but this country would be even more third world than it already is!

I haven't read a tabloid newspaper this century.

HTH.

I know it suits you to think people who would never vote for Green are a bit simple/thick, but you're very wrong.

His family changed it to Paulden to avoid anti semitism, and later on he changed it back to Polanski, to have pride in his identity

It's very easy to Google. He went back to the family name that his father had changed to appear less Jewish.

Well I very much doubt my local councillors will be able to bring water , energy or transport back into public ownership in our borough, or introduce a local wealth tax or change our election system,.

So I have voted for those who have the most realistic approach for local issues rather than the anti-semitic pair of goons who have been stirring up the local community on a Gazan platform - again beyond the scope of a local council to solve, or even really influence. And yes, I am 100% clear on the difference between being anti-Isreali Gvt and anti-semitic, thank you. They have crossed the line.

This is a joke post right? Have you come across the news at any point in recent history?

I agree with a pp from another thread who summed up the current Green party and Reform party as two cheeks of the same arse. Polanski, like Farage is a very able manipulator of curated content, where challenged in interviews he tends to fall back on attacking the questioner and struggles with their own policies.

The closer scrutiny being applied to someone potentially electable has seen his popularity rating plummet over false claims, and fudgey policies which are poorly thought through and not costed.

The one subject I never hear him speak on is the environment. Its all clickbait about magic solutions which will be paid for by a magical someone else. Pretty much the same as Reform.

I have voted Green at times in the past, I think now they are as divisive and hate based as Reform.

Greens do well and Labour lurches left, taxes go up and economy gets even shittier.

OP- why would you vote for them?

Let’s see if you practice what you preach: which right-wing broadsheets do you read to keep your own info environment unbiased?

I am left leaning by ethos and very interested in environmental issues, so the Greens really ought to be my party, but they're so left as to be almost extremist and many of them, the leader included, are stark raving mad to the extent that they're dangerous IMO.

This election has me worried and I've been looking at stats and onsidering how my vote can be best used to keep Reform out, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd vote Reform before Green, although it would be a very bitter pill to swallow.

Agree. David Zack is just the new Jeremy Corbyn. And I couldn't stand him either!