Page 9 | To think Kemi Badenoch is starting to talk an increasing amount of Sense? Part 2

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 16:05

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:52

Kemi Badenoch is the leader of the Tories and the Tories' ratings are low. Yet she is supposedly amazing. Disconnect. Or do the Tories' ratings have nothing to do with her? It's a bit depressing if the argument is that she must be amazing because she is the best of an awful bunch. Who I would choose from that bunch is irrelevant.

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Its not irrelevant that you won't say at all. My guess is that you are either a shy Labour or Green supporter. I understand why you wouldn't admit to that, but its a bit rich trying to put Kemi down when your preferred leader's polling is likely much worse.
We will all have to choose which of the leaders will be our next PM. I choose Kemi.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 16:00

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:52

Kemi Badenoch is the leader of the Tories and the Tories' ratings are low. Yet she is supposedly amazing. Disconnect. Or do the Tories' ratings have nothing to do with her? It's a bit depressing if the argument is that she must be amazing because she is the best of an awful bunch. Who I would choose from that bunch is irrelevant.

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She is amazing in spite of the Tories. That's one woman who would be highly sought after in private industry.

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 15:59

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:54

No I am not. You do seem somewhat fixated on it though.

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As do you on my posts. It’s just a political party, the walls won’t cave in if you say who you vote for. You might not have any upper hand, in fact if it’s anyone other than Reform you’re likely lagging.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:54

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 15:13

You seem a bit put out, are you on the Starmer thread? Your posting style is familiar.

I don’t see how anyone can say Kemi doing badly against other leaders on most metrics. The only party who can say they’re doing better with votes is Reform.

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No I am not. You do seem somewhat fixated on it though.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:52

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:16

Yes I did see the council results. I and others are pointing out to you that your claim about Kemi's poll ratings and popularity is demonstrably wrong.
I don't think you're crazy, so I'm not about to run anywhere and say so.
But the question was a simple one - if you don't like Kemi, who would you prefer as PM? Someone has to do it, so who? Its Starmer/Burnham, Kemi, Farage, Ed, or Zach.

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Kemi Badenoch is the leader of the Tories and the Tories' ratings are low. Yet she is supposedly amazing. Disconnect. Or do the Tories' ratings have nothing to do with her? It's a bit depressing if the argument is that she must be amazing because she is the best of an awful bunch. Who I would choose from that bunch is irrelevant.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 15:34

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 15:32

I suspect that Reform will make such a hash of local government that many people who voted for them will go back to the Tories. Former Labour supporters who voted Reform may well go back but I don't think they will if Burnham tacks Left as the backbenchers want him to. But if he doesn't then he will have the same problems that Starmer has had with them. I actually also think The Greens will crash and burn too. They are also held together by Gaza at the moment but they are delulu if they think the Muslim voters they courted think men can be women. Not to mention all the old environmentalists who see nothing left of the party they joined.

Great Post.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 15:32

Dexternight · 06/06/2026 15:26

Kemi is a fake.
A con artist and a scammer

'Kemi is a fake.
A con artist and a scammer'
@Dexternight

Would you like to provide evidence of those allegations?

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Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 15:32

I suspect that Reform will make such a hash of local government that many people who voted for them will go back to the Tories. Former Labour supporters who voted Reform may well go back but I don't think they will if Burnham tacks Left as the backbenchers want him to. But if he doesn't then he will have the same problems that Starmer has had with them. I actually also think The Greens will crash and burn too. They are also held together by Gaza at the moment but they are delulu if they think the Muslim voters they courted think men can be women. Not to mention all the old environmentalists who see nothing left of the party they joined.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 15:32

Dexternight · 06/06/2026 15:26

Kemi is a fake.
A con artist and a scammer

You mean she scares you shitless because she makes sense.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 15:29

😆 🤣 😂

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:28

Dexternight · 06/06/2026 15:26

Kemi is a fake.
A con artist and a scammer

Fake what?
Who has she conned?
Who has she scammed?

Dexternight · 06/06/2026 15:26

Kemi is a fake.
A con artist and a scammer

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 15:22

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:18

Thank you for lurking. Hope you like it.

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😬 very popular

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:20

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 15:18

Yes! I agree. I'd forgotten about this thread but happily @OpheliaWasntMad reminded me of it this morning.

It does feel a little like an amuse-bouche right now.

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I'd forgotten about it to, or I would have posted this week. Kemi's been excellent.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 15:18

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:04

I'm glad this thread has been resurrected OP.
It's a refreshing change on mn.

Yes! I agree. I'd forgotten about this thread but happily @OpheliaWasntMad reminded me of it this morning.

It does feel a little like an amuse-bouche right now.

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WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:18

Smeuse · 06/06/2026 15:14

Is it? Your anti Labour thread is full of it 😂

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Thank you for lurking. Hope you like it.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:16

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:07

Did you see the results of the recent council elections? The Tories hardly did well. It's not telling at all. It's what that particular poster always asks and then takes the argument off on a tangent. And then usually runs back to your 'not working thread' so you can all comment on how crazy posters are. I'm not playing.

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Yes I did see the council results. I and others are pointing out to you that your claim about Kemi's poll ratings and popularity is demonstrably wrong.
I don't think you're crazy, so I'm not about to run anywhere and say so.
But the question was a simple one - if you don't like Kemi, who would you prefer as PM? Someone has to do it, so who? Its Starmer/Burnham, Kemi, Farage, Ed, or Zach.

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 15:15

Smeuse · 06/06/2026 15:14

Is it? Your anti Labour thread is full of it 😂

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And? Do you follow it.

Smeuse · 06/06/2026 15:14

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:04

I'm glad this thread has been resurrected OP.
It's a refreshing change on mn.

Is it? Your anti Labour thread is full of it 😂

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 15:13

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:07

Did you see the results of the recent council elections? The Tories hardly did well. It's not telling at all. It's what that particular poster always asks and then takes the argument off on a tangent. And then usually runs back to your 'not working thread' so you can all comment on how crazy posters are. I'm not playing.

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You seem a bit put out, are you on the Starmer thread? Your posting style is familiar.

I don’t see how anyone can say Kemi doing badly against other leaders on most metrics. The only party who can say they’re doing better with votes is Reform.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 15:07

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:56

Her ratings are not substantially at odds with it though, as linked upthread. Also see the polling at the top of this thread and its predecessor. She is the most popular leader when polled.
No-one is forcing you to indulge btw, but its very telling that you won't state a preference.

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Did you see the results of the recent council elections? The Tories hardly did well. It's not telling at all. It's what that particular poster always asks and then takes the argument off on a tangent. And then usually runs back to your 'not working thread' so you can all comment on how crazy posters are. I'm not playing.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 15:04

I'm glad this thread has been resurrected OP.
It's a refreshing change on mn.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 15:00

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:31

An answer - Nothing to do with you but it's not Labour.

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It would be really interesting to understand who you would vote for and why - at this point. It means zilch, after all right now. But your answer and reasoning for your answer would be informative.

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EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:57

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:52

Because it's an odd deflection and I'm not indulging it. Who cares that she is female? Or black? Irrelevant. Commenting on that rather than capability is reductive. I was commenting that her ratings are substantially at odds with what is said about her on some threads on Mumsnet. That is indisputable.

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What is indisputable? Her personal ratings are the highest out of all leaders. Focus groups are strong for her too.

So yes what is said in some posts on mn doesn’t match but it’s more the insults and attack lines that are out of sync.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:56

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:52

Because it's an odd deflection and I'm not indulging it. Who cares that she is female? Or black? Irrelevant. Commenting on that rather than capability is reductive. I was commenting that her ratings are substantially at odds with what is said about her on some threads on Mumsnet. That is indisputable.

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Her ratings are not substantially at odds with it though, as linked upthread. Also see the polling at the top of this thread and its predecessor. She is the most popular leader when polled.
No-one is forcing you to indulge btw, but its very telling that you won't state a preference.