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TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 12/06/2026 10:07

WaffleBomb · 12/06/2026 09:26

Yes, very happy thank you.
Kemi has described the interpretation as "bullshit". I trust her words more than the interpretation of the journalist. Tim Shipman is usually better than this.

Where did she say that, please? On Twitter? So she is saying Shipman lied and she wouldn't make Farage PM?

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 10:03

Upstartled · 12/06/2026 09:58

It's anyone but Labour for me. If Farage requires a coalition to form a government, I'd rather they did it with the conservatives than Restore, wouldn't you?

That is a very low bar.

Personally, I would like to see the Tories appealing to their one nation voters and stand up to Reform/Restore.

But it is good to see where you all stand on a Reform/Tory coalition.

Upstartled · 12/06/2026 09:58

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 08:52

Are you all happy with Badenoch's Spectator interview, especially her remarks about Farage and Lowe?

It's anyone but Labour for me. If Farage requires a coalition to form a government, I'd rather they did it with the conservatives than Restore, wouldn't you?

WaffleBomb · 12/06/2026 09:26

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 08:52

Are you all happy with Badenoch's Spectator interview, especially her remarks about Farage and Lowe?

Yes, very happy thank you.
Kemi has described the interpretation as "bullshit". I trust her words more than the interpretation of the journalist. Tim Shipman is usually better than this.

LuckyHazelFox · 12/06/2026 09:19

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 12/06/2026 08:49

Kemi’s top team look like some fairly normal human beings. I can’t see how KS can survive this but he appears to have few morals and little regard for public feeling so I’m sure he’ll hang on.

It might only appear a minor thing, but I look at the difference when Kemi is speaking compared to Starmer. Lammy and the rest of the cabinet sitting like sleepy nodding dogs when Starmer is in action. They look so despondent and dejected. How are you meant to be inspired by that lot?

LuckyHazelFox · 12/06/2026 09:14

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 08:52

Are you all happy with Badenoch's Spectator interview, especially her remarks about Farage and Lowe?

Get Kemi on a private one to one and I'd wager she would have more favourable things to say about both of them. She's certainly more politically aligned with them even though she wouldn't care to admit it. Lowe is a grafter and Farage a shirker? Maybe. Lowe does seem more pragmatically invested and wants answers; he's not a showman. A Tory Reform coalition is what I would like to see right now. Kemi providing the much needed political precision but keeping her head about her. Farage as consultant and Lowe as her deputy. That's my dream team. For now, Restore is in danger of handing Burnham the Makefield win.

Twiglets1 · 12/06/2026 09:02

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 08:52

Are you all happy with Badenoch's Spectator interview, especially her remarks about Farage and Lowe?

In the interview she said she wouldn’t do a pact with a more right wing party. The interviewer felt she might do one after the GE but Kemi didn’t say that.

However she did indicate some affinity with Rupert Lowe in terms of he works hard, unlike Farage in her opinion. There is personal animosity between her & Farage going back some time so I can’t see those 2 forming a pact.

I wouldn’t be happy with the Tories forming a coalition with Restore, no. But for one thing Kemi hasn’t said she would. And for another thing, Restore only have one seat in Parliament at the moment anyway & it remains to be seen how they will perform at the next GE.

EasternStandard · 12/06/2026 08:54

WaffleBomb · 12/06/2026 08:36

Kemi on X this morning:-

First the Defence Secretary resigned saying the government is making the country and our troops less safe.

Then the Veterans Minister went, saying the government is abandoning our veterans and it’s harming our national defence.

It’s clear the armed forces have lost all faith in Keir Starmer. A Prime Minister who cannot command the respect of our military cannot continue in office.

Britain’s national security must come before Keir Starmer’s ego. The Prime Minister’s time is up.

Yep. Spot on.

Time to go.

Smeuse · 12/06/2026 08:52

Are you all happy with Badenoch's Spectator interview, especially her remarks about Farage and Lowe?

LuckyHazelFox · 12/06/2026 08:50

I wish she was leading this country right now. This defence business is really worrying.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 12/06/2026 08:49

Kemi’s top team look like some fairly normal human beings. I can’t see how KS can survive this but he appears to have few morals and little regard for public feeling so I’m sure he’ll hang on.

Twiglets1 · 12/06/2026 08:46

Another own goal by Starmer.

It’s taken until now but finally I’m agreeing with people who say he has to go. His instincts just seem all wrong.

Upstartled · 12/06/2026 08:40

I'm not sure there's anything to argue with there, just more common sense delivered without prevarication by Kemi.

WaffleBomb · 12/06/2026 08:36

Kemi on X this morning:-

First the Defence Secretary resigned saying the government is making the country and our troops less safe.

Then the Veterans Minister went, saying the government is abandoning our veterans and it’s harming our national defence.

It’s clear the armed forces have lost all faith in Keir Starmer. A Prime Minister who cannot command the respect of our military cannot continue in office.

Britain’s national security must come before Keir Starmer’s ego. The Prime Minister’s time is up.

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 21:50

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 20:35

Tick tock..

Al Carns resigns as armed forces minister
Al Carns has resigned as armed forces minister, hours after John Healey resigned as defence secretary.

I have watched, as a Marine, what war looks like now. I have spoken to those who have seen it up close in Ukraine. The lesson is uncomfortable and it is unambiguous. The character of conflict is changing faster than our procurement can keep up with. We are still purchasing capability suitable for the last war while our adversaries arm for the next one. Platforms that cost billions can be defeated by systems that cost thousands. Any serious Defence Investment Plan has to start from that reality.

While I had no hand in the Defence Investment Plan, that distance does allow me to say plainly that it is not built for the threat we face. It is neither transformative enough nor sufficiently funded. We are asking our Armed Forces to operate in a more dangerous world on a budget written for a calmer one.

I have sat in the rooms, seen the assessments, and spoken to the commanders who will be asked to do more with less, and I cannot in good conscience stand at the dispatch box and defend a level of investment I know to be inadequate to the task. A serious country funds its defence to meet the threat it actually faces, not the threat it wishes it faced.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-keir-starmer-peter-mandelson-files-defence-investment-kemi-badenoch-12593360

Wow. Someone needs to listen. Another PM as Starmer won’t.

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:10

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 20:48

Tick tock ⏰️

I saw his interview with Cathy Newman. His resignation letter was published less than an hour later. Did he jump, or was he pushed?
Healey's PPS has also gone this evening.

I imagine he jumped. He’s one of a tiny handful of people who could do a really good job as defence minister. He’d written the letter before the interview.

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 20:48

Tick tock ⏰️

I saw his interview with Cathy Newman. His resignation letter was published less than an hour later. Did he jump, or was he pushed?
Healey's PPS has also gone this evening.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 20:35

Tick tock..

Al Carns resigns as armed forces minister
Al Carns has resigned as armed forces minister, hours after John Healey resigned as defence secretary.

I have watched, as a Marine, what war looks like now. I have spoken to those who have seen it up close in Ukraine. The lesson is uncomfortable and it is unambiguous. The character of conflict is changing faster than our procurement can keep up with. We are still purchasing capability suitable for the last war while our adversaries arm for the next one. Platforms that cost billions can be defeated by systems that cost thousands. Any serious Defence Investment Plan has to start from that reality.

While I had no hand in the Defence Investment Plan, that distance does allow me to say plainly that it is not built for the threat we face. It is neither transformative enough nor sufficiently funded. We are asking our Armed Forces to operate in a more dangerous world on a budget written for a calmer one.

I have sat in the rooms, seen the assessments, and spoken to the commanders who will be asked to do more with less, and I cannot in good conscience stand at the dispatch box and defend a level of investment I know to be inadequate to the task. A serious country funds its defence to meet the threat it actually faces, not the threat it wishes it faced.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-keir-starmer-peter-mandelson-files-defence-investment-kemi-badenoch-12593360

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EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 16:29

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:21

I hope thats true 🤞
He's lost all authority and control now. It should be Starmer and Reeves resigning, not John Healey.

Agree too

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 16:25

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:21

I hope thats true 🤞
He's lost all authority and control now. It should be Starmer and Reeves resigning, not John Healey.

Totally agree

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WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:21

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 16:19

I Heard it really is, one can't have the defence secretary resign on the basis the PM isn't protecting the country, and the PM survives..

I hope thats true 🤞
He's lost all authority and control now. It should be Starmer and Reeves resigning, not John Healey.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 16:19

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:04

It should be all over, yet he's clinging on! Absolute shambles.

If only Kemi could take over.

I Heard it really is, one can't have the defence secretary resign on the basis the PM isn't protecting the country, and the PM survives..

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 11/06/2026 16:17

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 16:10

Yep and agree with next post on whether she knew.

I expect so, they probably shared a coffee or two together..

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EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 16:10

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:04

It should be all over, yet he's clinging on! Absolute shambles.

If only Kemi could take over.

Yep and agree with next post on whether she knew.

WaffleBomb · 11/06/2026 16:07

Kemi's questions yesterday at PMQs were spot on.
I wonder if she knew that Healey was about to go?