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Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:18

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Opposition parties don't have policies. Their job is to oppose the govt's policies.
They will all release a manifesto of policies they would like to enact in the lead up to the next general election.

Who says? You?

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:17

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:15

Keir needs to start respecting women. Step 1. The way he talks to KB in the HoC is atrocious (just an example, if him saying some women have penises isn't enough to convince you)

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At least he believes in statutory maternity pay.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:16

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:07

Rishi started the Rwanda plan - which was actually working. Starmer stopped it when it was all in place, taxes had paid for it. Foolish chap. Not for the first time, nor the last.

And wrt 'Islamophobia' - as HermioneWeasley said '

Islamophobia” is a term made up by the Muslim brotherhood to deflect legitimate questioning of Islamic extremism. For example 75% of Mi5’s watch list are Muslim.

All the attacks on British Jews have been carried out by Muslims.

Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs used allegations of racism to keep operating.
Cousin marriage is causing material strain on the NHS in parts of the UK. We need to be able to discuss these things.

Middle Eastern countries are baffled as to why we tolerate extremism.

if you think Israel is more of a problem than Iran, Russia, China or the Taliban then you come across as motivated by anti semitism.'

Don’t be ridiculous. You can call out the vile acts and atrocities that Israel is carrying out without being antisemitic.

WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Thanks for thread 2 op :-)

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:15

BIWI · 06/05/2026 22:00

Keir, please. You may not like him, but have some respect and get his name right.

Keir needs to start respecting women. Step 1. The way he talks to KB in the HoC is atrocious (just an example, if him saying some women have penises isn't enough to convince you)

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WaffleBomb · 06/05/2026 22:15

Opposition parties don't have policies. Their job is to oppose the govt's policies.
They will all release a manifesto of policies they would like to enact in the lead up to the next general election.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:14

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2026 22:11

Somebody who thinks maternity leave and pay has “gone too far” isn’t remotely interested in women’s rights.

Exactly this. Getting rid of statutory maternity pay would be a catastrophe for women. Who on earth thinks statutory maternity pay isn’t right- oh that would be Badenoch.

No way should any woman vote for her.

HoldMyWine · 06/05/2026 22:14

BIWI · 06/05/2026 22:00

Keir, please. You may not like him, but have some respect and get his name right.

I didn’t say I didn’t like him. I do like him, I think he did a great job heading up the CPS, o think he’s an honourable man. I just don’t think he’s a great politician. Sorry if my spelling offends you. I can never spell Kieth either.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 22:13

Muslims suffer the most hate crime.

Badenoch strongly supported sending asylum seekers to Rwanda which was not only vile but useless and a big waste of money.

She has no policies and contributed handsomely to the chronic ineptitude of the Tories this country had to suffer for 14 years. When the Tories sink even lower tomorrow I sincerely hope they get rid of her asap.

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2026 22:11

Somebody who thinks maternity leave and pay has “gone too far” isn’t remotely interested in women’s rights.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 22:07

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:57

Those aren’t policies they’re jumping on the bandwagon, Islamaphobic statements. Why do Muslim marches have to be restricted and anybody that wants to get rid of statutory maternity pay isn’t protecting women.

The Tories have been saying stop the boats for 14 years. The boats increase under Tories. They had 14 years and did nothing but let them increase hugely. It’s getting boring now- yada yada.

Rishi started the Rwanda plan - which was actually working. Starmer stopped it when it was all in place, taxes had paid for it. Foolish chap. Not for the first time, nor the last.

And wrt 'Islamophobia' - as HermioneWeasley said '

Islamophobia” is a term made up by the Muslim brotherhood to deflect legitimate questioning of Islamic extremism. For example 75% of Mi5’s watch list are Muslim.

All the attacks on British Jews have been carried out by Muslims.

Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs used allegations of racism to keep operating.
Cousin marriage is causing material strain on the NHS in parts of the UK. We need to be able to discuss these things.

Middle Eastern countries are baffled as to why we tolerate extremism.

if you think Israel is more of a problem than Iran, Russia, China or the Taliban then you come across as motivated by anti semitism.'

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Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 06/05/2026 22:06

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:48

Her views on autism are appalling and Cass has highlighted how damaging the weaponising of trans children is.

Are they - what’s she said? All that I’ve seen is that there’s some over diagnosis and this has lead to some over labelling of disability.

BIWI · 06/05/2026 22:00

HoldMyWine · 06/05/2026 21:39

I agree, I have been really impressed with Kemi of late. She talks sense. Labour under Kier Starmer have been such a disappointment to me, a lifelong labour voter. I would consider voting conservative with Kemi in charge.

Keir, please. You may not like him, but have some respect and get his name right.

emuloc · 06/05/2026 21:58

Hoanna · 06/05/2026 21:53

Bringing safety to Jews and Christians
Restricting muslim marches
Protecting women through stopping the boats
etc etc etc - the list goes on

Really, how is she going to achieve all this? I'm all ears. She is just full of talk, and not much else.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 21:58

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:48

Her views on autism are appalling and Cass has highlighted how damaging the weaponising of trans children is.

Who has 'weaponised' 'trans children'?

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ilovesooty · 06/05/2026 21:57

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:54

There is no way on earth I’d vote for Conservatives with Badenoch at the helm. Some of her views are deeply concerning. If the Tories want us to believe they’re middle ground, maybe have a middle ground leader for a start. When they provide a half decent leader instead of yet another in the shit show hall of fame I might be interested.

I have respect for some of the previous one nation Tories but Johnson purged the party of any who remained. I have no time for Badenoch at all.

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:57

Hoanna · 06/05/2026 21:53

Bringing safety to Jews and Christians
Restricting muslim marches
Protecting women through stopping the boats
etc etc etc - the list goes on

Those aren’t policies they’re jumping on the bandwagon, Islamaphobic statements. Why do Muslim marches have to be restricted and anybody that wants to get rid of statutory maternity pay isn’t protecting women.

The Tories have been saying stop the boats for 14 years. The boats increase under Tories. They had 14 years and did nothing but let them increase hugely. It’s getting boring now- yada yada.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 06/05/2026 21:57

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:54

There is no way on earth I’d vote for Conservatives with Badenoch at the helm. Some of her views are deeply concerning. If the Tories want us to believe they’re middle ground, maybe have a middle ground leader for a start. When they provide a half decent leader instead of yet another in the shit show hall of fame I might be interested.

Which of her views concern you. Of what I have seen she speaks sense over most topics.

BurnoutBee · 06/05/2026 21:56

Love her, hate the party so it’s a no from me.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/05/2026 21:54

HoldMyWine · 06/05/2026 21:39

I agree, I have been really impressed with Kemi of late. She talks sense. Labour under Kier Starmer have been such a disappointment to me, a lifelong labour voter. I would consider voting conservative with Kemi in charge.

Also - same (well I didn't - couldn't possibly - vote Labour last time, but I didn't vote at all)

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Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:54

ilovesooty · 06/05/2026 21:50

As I said before I'd like the party to provide credible opposition. She's not the sort of politician I want to see leading it.

There is no way on earth I’d vote for Conservatives with Badenoch at the helm. Some of her views are deeply concerning. If the Tories want us to believe they’re middle ground, maybe have a middle ground leader for a start. When they provide a half decent leader instead of yet another in the shit show hall of fame I might be interested.

Hoanna · 06/05/2026 21:53

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:51

What policies does Badenoch have? This is about Badenoch- not everybody else.

Bringing safety to Jews and Christians
Restricting muslim marches
Protecting women through stopping the boats
etc etc etc - the list goes on

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:51

Hoanna · 06/05/2026 21:49

according to you, what is there to be commended that Labour have done?

What policies does Badenoch have? This is about Badenoch- not everybody else.

ilovesooty · 06/05/2026 21:50

As I said before I'd like the party to provide credible opposition. She's not the sort of politician I want to see leading it.

Hoanna · 06/05/2026 21:49

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:46

How exactly is she talking sense? She hasn’t outlined a plan or policies just criticism of everybody else.

according to you, what is there to be commended that Labour have done?