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BIossomtoes · 07/05/2026 11:01

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:59

Completely different decline rates between the UKCS and NCS.

You cannot make a simple comparison.

Can’t I? I thought I just did. 🤔

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:59

BIossomtoes · 07/05/2026 10:46

We were discussing North Sea oil revenues. How do you suggest doing that without referencing the time of peak production?

Completely different decline rates between the UKCS and NCS.

You cannot make a simple comparison.

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:58

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 10:57

Don't kid yourself.

Do tell.

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 10:57

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:18

Scotland is a net beneficiary from London.

What an absurd comment.

Don't kid yourself.

TheBrokenCracker · 07/05/2026 10:49

Coming to this late but as a member of the Labour Party found it very refreshing to hear her say I disagree with you, you just have to accept that.

The Times parliamentary sketch writer had a good piece on this on Tuesday.

Will politicians telling the public what they really think catch on?

www.thetimes.com/article/a1150b24-b858-4230-9a08-5105ebdf8a9f?shareToken=b9d2f47935f0902a377a71ddc3a39d1d

BIossomtoes · 07/05/2026 10:46

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:40

From a historical perspective, how far back would you like to go?

William the Conqueror?

We were discussing North Sea oil revenues. How do you suggest doing that without referencing the time of peak production?

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 10:44

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:40

From a historical perspective, how far back would you like to go?

William the Conqueror?

You know what they say about sarcasm.
The last 50 years is more than enough enough

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:40

BIossomtoes · 07/05/2026 10:37

The economic miracle that was spaffed away on tax cuts instead of investing in the country. I look at Norway and weep.

From a historical perspective, how far back would you like to go?

William the Conqueror?

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 10:39

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 07/05/2026 10:10

Oh you silly billy. On the contrary. Some of the tax we pay in England goes straight to benefit Scotland. We should have a say in whether we want our taxes spent on Scotland or not.

Ok...if this is true, why are English politicians so keen to sabotage independence referendums,if we are saying England would be better off outside of the union with Scotland?

BIossomtoes · 07/05/2026 10:37

The economic miracle that was spaffed away on tax cuts instead of investing in the country. I look at Norway and weep.

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 10:35

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 07/05/2026 10:10

Oh you silly billy. On the contrary. Some of the tax we pay in England goes straight to benefit Scotland. We should have a say in whether we want our taxes spent on Scotland or not.

You have obviously forgotten the revenue from oil and gas that was drained from the Scottish economy to bail out England over many years. The "economic miracle" that Margaret Thatcher claimed credit for was the outcome.

Bushmillsbabe · 07/05/2026 10:29

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:24

6 cuts in interest rates
Deal with France to return small boat migrants.
5 million more nhs appointments
Brought in investment from China
Tackled fuel poverty
Dealt effectively with trump over tarifs and the Iran fiasco.

Labour had a hard task ahead of them in the aftermath of the Brexit debacle an covid. The economy is actually showing some signs of recovery now. The performance of FTSE 100 is evidence for this.

HTH

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As a net total, how many migrants gave been returned?

I wouldnt be 100% convinced about that appt figure. Labour also have a lovely way of massaging nhs figures. I had just started work for the nhs when Labour were last in power, and I remember the way we had to adjust reporting figures or be fined, discharge outpatients before ready to make wait lists look shorter, cut appointment times to increase apparent number - for example a 40 min appt had to go down as 4 x 10 min appointments.

Now we are back to the quick discharge and re referral system to cut apparent wait lists, let's see how many more of the above we are implementing before this Parliament is over?

Tackled fuel poverty? When we are all paying high amounts for petrol, which they could counteract by cutting tax on fuel but they don't.

Bushmillsbabe · 07/05/2026 10:19

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:54

Scottish independence referendums do not concern English people, except if they live in Scotland. You are talking nonsense

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Surely anyone who is likely to be impacted by the outcome should be entitled to vote?
The leavers may find they are more sucessful if they do allow the English to vote!

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 10:18

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:54

Scottish independence referendums do not concern English people, except if they live in Scotland. You are talking nonsense

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Scotland is a net beneficiary from London.

What an absurd comment.

inkognitha · 07/05/2026 10:17

I am very impressed by her. And I hated the Bullingdon Tories. She is slowly growing in stature, gaining ground, earning respect, winning people over, making the best of her underdog status.

If she keeps this way, she can make the Conservatives an essential part of whatever is gonna happen at the next GE, or better. She has a lot of potential and I think she would do a great job as a PM to get us out of the state we re in.

Next government will have to bring massive changes, fix a lot of messes, find a new way forward for Britain, reconcile people even. And I think a black woman coming from immigration, with real life experience, a no bs approach to things, talking her mind straight and clear, determined enough to make these happen, could re-galvanise this country.

And put a glorious end to the incorrect tropes of the left that your identity matters more than your actions (which is why they cannot see or respect her agency and abilities), and that all people coming from immigration should be inherently progressive or left-leaning (and she doesn’t fit that expectation, which angers them, hence a viciousness especially aimed at her as shown on these threads … because of her skin colour, textbook racism)

I don’t know how today’s elections will play up, I suppose a bit like the current vibe, not going to win, but it won’t be that bad either.

The Greens may do ok today but that won’t last on a national level until the next GE. They maxed out their appeal already. The core leftie brigade is already won over, the Muslim vote too, hence the big noise and some electoral results, putting Labour on its knees, but i don’t think they re going to convince many new ppl outside these demographics. It’s gonna go downhill for them and rightfully so.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 07/05/2026 10:12

Clarabell77 · 07/05/2026 09:21

Funny how none of the English-based parties are shouting for that… 🤔 you should contact your MP to demand a referendum.

It's not a thing I'm that interested in tbh. I was just saying what would be fair, given someone had commented on it.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 07/05/2026 10:10

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:54

Scottish independence referendums do not concern English people, except if they live in Scotland. You are talking nonsense

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Oh you silly billy. On the contrary. Some of the tax we pay in England goes straight to benefit Scotland. We should have a say in whether we want our taxes spent on Scotland or not.

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EasternStandard · 07/05/2026 09:59

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:57

Not sure what point you think you are making?

Labour soundbites at this stage won’t do the HTH part of your post. The losses are happening today.

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:57

EasternStandard · 07/05/2026 09:25

It probably won’t, help that is. Bit late for Labour lines now.

Not sure what point you think you are making?

Gallowayan · 07/05/2026 09:54

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 07/05/2026 08:29

Lets hope England get to vote next time, it's only fair.

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Scottish independence referendums do not concern English people, except if they live in Scotland. You are talking nonsense

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 09:46

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 07/05/2026 09:44

Noted? In your little black book? Are you wearing your matching uniform?

You do have a very inflated sense of your own importance.😂

Right. I really must go and vote now.

Best of luck.

Look forward to circling back later - once the results are in.

Hurry back!

BlakeCarrington · 07/05/2026 09:45

Caro7457 · 06/05/2026 21:48

No not really, most share policies. She has none.

Wellll Labour share policies and then completely ignore them and do the opposite of what they promised so swings and roundabouts.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 07/05/2026 09:44

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 09:40

You are not voting Reform either, and yet you have strong views on them.

Noted.

Noted? In your little black book? Are you wearing your matching uniform?

You do have a very inflated sense of your own importance.😂

Right. I really must go and vote now.

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 09:40

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 07/05/2026 09:39

I am not voting Green. Harangue someone who is.

Eta: thank you 😉

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You are not voting Reform either, and yet you have strong views on them.

Noted.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 07/05/2026 09:39

Hallowedturf · 07/05/2026 09:30

Your comment on the Greens, if you dare.

Ps nice edit.

Edited

I am not voting Green. Harangue someone who is.

Eta: thank you 😉