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ThatsNicer · 06/06/2026 11:32

Who has 'weaponised' 'trans children'?
Please explain to me.
How can children choose to be trans? That is nonsense, They choose to be trans later usually after puberty.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:30

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:27

In Leftworld, if someone doesn’t want to answer a question, it’s always the question that’s at fault 🙃

Just like Starmer always blames the person or people raising an issue rather than admitting there’s an issue.

I’ve been here a very long time. I recognise provocation when I see it and know which posters are practised at it. Upstartled and I have crossed swords many times.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:30

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:27

In Leftworld, if someone doesn’t want to answer a question, it’s always the question that’s at fault 🙃

Just like Starmer always blames the person or people raising an issue rather than admitting there’s an issue.

"Leftworld' 😂

2dogsandabudgie · 06/06/2026 11:29

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:44

She's fantastic, a strong, articulate black woman, who wipes the floor with Starmer. She's worked hard and has been patient in building her popularity. I admire her mainly for her balanced thinking which will appeal to the centrist. Let's hope she can turn around the party before the next GE. THAT is what a leader looks like. Come on Kemi.

This. The more I see and hear Kemi the more I like her. I would vote for her.

GiaGia16 · 06/06/2026 11:29

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:27

In Leftworld, if someone doesn’t want to answer a question, it’s always the question that’s at fault 🙃

Just like Starmer always blames the person or people raising an issue rather than admitting there’s an issue.

So true 😂

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:27

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:02

Right, sorry for provocatively asking why you like the leader of your preferred party...I'll try and keep the inflammatory comments down 🤷🏼‍♀️

In Leftworld, if someone doesn’t want to answer a question, it’s always the question that’s at fault 🙃

Just like Starmer always blames the person or people raising an issue rather than admitting there’s an issue.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:25

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 11:17

Agree about her response to the antisemitic heckler.

She had the courage of her convictions there which was a welcome contrast to politicians trying to sit on the fence so as not to offend anyone.

Im tired of politicians using wishy washy language around antisemitism - which they have been remarkably slow to recognise as just another form of racism.

Yes, agree.
I particularly like that Kemi is quite happy to accept that some will disagree with her. She's not there to crowd please, and she doesn't sit on the fence.

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 11:17

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:04

Agree. Her stance on both points you highlight has been excellent. Her response to the anti semitic heckler was superb.
I don't fancy a con/ref coalition, although if needs must. Hopefully 3 years will be enough for most people to realise that Kemi is the only viable choice for the next PM.

Agree about her response to the antisemitic heckler.

She had the courage of her convictions there which was a welcome contrast to politicians trying to sit on the fence so as not to offend anyone.

Im tired of politicians using wishy washy language around antisemitism - which they have been remarkably slow to recognise as just another form of racism.

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 11:10

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 10:52

Yep to both posts. Yours and @KTheGrey

Edited

Yeah - the Tories are ok with having women and ethnic minority / religiously diverse leaders where strangely the Labour Party just can’t do it. Blair waiting to convert to Catholicism until after his premiership was an interesting one to watch.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:08

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 11:02

You wouldn’t need to read the Mail. All you need do is have a look at KB in sessions with Kate Osbourne when the latter claimed she’d disparaged transpeople and then could not produce the quote. KB does not accept unfounded accusations and so far she has not been caught doing anything shady.

I thought that Keir’s Labour would be anti-grift but Ange thinks she should not pay tax (or that she should not employ a tax consultant which is madness if you have a public role) plus Rachel’s farming inheritance tax raids, Tulip’s little embarrassments, Apsana with her £94k income living in a council flat instead of returning it to the list for somebody who needs it … they are a shower of shamefulness really.

She tied Osbourne up in knots over that. She won't be standing for malignant characterisations. She can robustly represent her corner and every woman should admire her for that. What I don't like is her skin colour being used to cause division. She can fight on her own merits.

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:05

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 11:02

You wouldn’t need to read the Mail. All you need do is have a look at KB in sessions with Kate Osbourne when the latter claimed she’d disparaged transpeople and then could not produce the quote. KB does not accept unfounded accusations and so far she has not been caught doing anything shady.

I thought that Keir’s Labour would be anti-grift but Ange thinks she should not pay tax (or that she should not employ a tax consultant which is madness if you have a public role) plus Rachel’s farming inheritance tax raids, Tulip’s little embarrassments, Apsana with her £94k income living in a council flat instead of returning it to the list for somebody who needs it … they are a shower of shamefulness really.

And Haigh's mobile phone fraud side hustle. Worth remembering as Burnham fans are hoping for her to take the role of Chancellor of the Exchequer. I'd be amazed if a bank would allow her to be a cashier with that record but Chancellor...they are all for it.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:04

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 10:59

I also don't like the way she will always attack the Govt, never ever looks at any cross party agreement.
I mean she's leader of the opposition. It's more concerning that the Labour Party has spent most of the last 2 years deciding that the best opposition to the Labour government is the Labour Party. Starmer is weak and indecisive and is about to be toppled because he has been unable to lead his his own party and stop his own backbenchers from undermining him at every turn. Burnham will have the same problem. As someone who has almost always voted Labour ( but won't again) they have demonstrated that they are incapable as a party of being a party of government. Blair did it because he could lead. Any Labour leader will have a doubly hard job because too many Labour members and MPs would rather be in opposition than being in government with a leader who is not absolutely ideologically aligned with them in every way.

Edited

I couldn't get past that poster's first statement for second hand embarrassment.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:04

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:59

For me, her stance on policing and anti-semitism is what this country should lead with. Both topics, she delivered with calm, detailed clarity. She will make things happen not watch what will happen. Starmer is as divisive as Farage. Kemi is a proactive challenger. She's going to come out of the GE as a winner whether as leader or coalition, imo. Would love to see a con Reform coalition with Farage handing the batton to Badenoch.

Agree. Her stance on both points you highlight has been excellent. Her response to the anti semitic heckler was superb.
I don't fancy a con/ref coalition, although if needs must. Hopefully 3 years will be enough for most people to realise that Kemi is the only viable choice for the next PM.

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 11:02

JacknDiane · 06/06/2026 09:40

Tell me you read the Daily Mail without telling me you read the Daily Mail...

You wouldn’t need to read the Mail. All you need do is have a look at KB in sessions with Kate Osbourne when the latter claimed she’d disparaged transpeople and then could not produce the quote. KB does not accept unfounded accusations and so far she has not been caught doing anything shady.

I thought that Keir’s Labour would be anti-grift but Ange thinks she should not pay tax (or that she should not employ a tax consultant which is madness if you have a public role) plus Rachel’s farming inheritance tax raids, Tulip’s little embarrassments, Apsana with her £94k income living in a council flat instead of returning it to the list for somebody who needs it … they are a shower of shamefulness really.

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:02

Right, sorry for provocatively asking why you like the leader of your preferred party...I'll try and keep the inflammatory comments down 🤷🏼‍♀️

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:01

JacknDiane · 06/06/2026 09:40

Tell me you read the Daily Mail without telling me you read the Daily Mail...

Oh do move on from that worn out trope.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:00

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 10:58

Actually no, we often disagree about politics, which is unsurprisingly, as I'm conservative leaning and you are labour leaning. So yes, we won't agree on policy. But I was asking about what you like about Starmer, as a person or a politician?

You weren’t. You were being provocative and I’m not in the mood for indulging you.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:59

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 10:55

Its a good sign that Labour supporters are so rattled by her.
She's obviously doing something right.

For me, her stance on policing and anti-semitism is what this country should lead with. Both topics, she delivered with calm, detailed clarity. She will make things happen not watch what will happen. Starmer is as divisive as Farage. Kemi is a proactive challenger. She's going to come out of the GE as a winner whether as leader or coalition, imo. Would love to see a con Reform coalition with Farage handing the batton to Badenoch.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 10:59

I also don't like the way she will always attack the Govt, never ever looks at any cross party agreement.
I mean she's leader of the opposition. It's more concerning that the Labour Party has spent most of the last 2 years deciding that the best opposition to the Labour government is the Labour Party. Starmer is weak and indecisive and is about to be toppled because he has been unable to lead his his own party and stop his own backbenchers from undermining him at every turn. Burnham will have the same problem. As someone who has almost always voted Labour ( but won't again) they have demonstrated that they are incapable as a party of being a party of government. Blair did it because he could lead. Any Labour leader will have a doubly hard job because too many Labour members and MPs would rather be in opposition than being in government with a leader who is not absolutely ideologically aligned with them in every way.

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 10:58

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 10:51

You’ve argued with enough of my posts to know exactly what I think.

Actually no, we often disagree about politics, which is unsurprisingly, as I'm conservative leaning and you are labour leaning. So yes, we won't agree on policy. But I was asking about what you like about Starmer, as a person or a politician?

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 10:55

Its a good sign that Labour supporters are so rattled by her.
She's obviously doing something right.

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 10:52

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:51

No wonder Labour voters are regressive. Probably explains why Labour won't champion female leaders.

Yep to both posts. Yours and @KTheGrey

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:51

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 10:47

Not the sort? What an utterly namby pamby non-thing to say. I thought NQOCD was dead.

If what you mean is unsayable it makes me think it’s really bad; please make your arguments explicit.

No wonder Labour voters are regressive. Probably explains why Labour won't champion female leaders.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 10:51

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:44

She's fantastic, a strong, articulate black woman, who wipes the floor with Starmer. She's worked hard and has been patient in building her popularity. I admire her mainly for her balanced thinking which will appeal to the centrist. Let's hope she can turn around the party before the next GE. THAT is what a leader looks like. Come on Kemi.

This 👏

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 10:51

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 10:39

It's not obvious to me @Blossomtoes. What do you think he's doing well?

You’ve argued with enough of my posts to know exactly what I think.