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Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 13:38

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 13:27

The media doesn’t seem to think Shabana Mahmood is in with a shout, which is interesting given she polls more popular with non-Labour Party voters than any of the other possibles.

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They will never vote for Mahmoud. I doubt she'll even bother to stand.

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 13:29

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 13:27

The media doesn’t seem to think Shabana Mahmood is in with a shout, which is interesting given she polls more popular with non-Labour Party voters than any of the other possibles.

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Labour seem to think she's not left wing enough.

Also explains why non- Labour party voters like her.

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 13:27

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

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The media doesn’t seem to think Shabana Mahmood is in with a shout, which is interesting given she polls more popular with non-Labour Party voters than any of the other possibles.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 13:23

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

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And instead of looking at why exactly they haven't felt that one woman or one Black or Brown person in their entire history has ever been suitable to be leader, they decide to dismiss the choices of Black and Brown people who serve in Conservative governments. They are either ' coconuts' or are trying to suck up to racists to protect themselves, or are in some other way too stupid to make their own decisions. Labour really need to take a hard look at themselves but of course, they won't. Too busy patting themselves on the back for ' opposing all racism and misogyny ( unless it's their own)

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 12:18

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 12:08

Oh, I just put it on the other thread. It's worth a watching twice, anyway.

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Thanks. Just watched, brilliant 👏

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 12:08

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:56

Thank you! I did look for it yesterday after your recommendation, but couldn't find it.

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Oh, I just put it on the other thread. It's worth a watching twice, anyway.

Shudacudawuda · 06/06/2026 12:07

Here's the link to the PM Uncensored interview, she's on at about 1hr 40.
Really worth a watch.

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https://youtu.be/wzMGhv3qGYQ?si=U3uXkdL7Y4NJgE3N

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 12:03

😆 🤣

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 11:59

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 11:57

Their next leader will almost definitely be one of Starmer, Burnham or Streeting so yes - you are right about that!

Whereas the Conservative Party are not talking about replacing Kemi - despite the party is polling badly at the moment. She is the best thing about them at the moment.

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She sure is. I think they know it.

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 11:58

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:57

Before anyone throws BJ back at me, he had a lot to juggle when he was PM.

He always has a lot to juggle what with all those children and wives/ex wives.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:57

Before anyone throws BJ back at me, he had a lot to juggle when he was PM.

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 11:57

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

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Their next leader will almost definitely be one of Starmer, Burnham or Streeting so yes - you are right about that!

Whereas the Conservative Party are not talking about replacing Kemi - despite the party is polling badly at the moment. She is the best thing about them at the moment.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:56

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:51

Yes. I thought she was brilliant in her conversation with JHB.

Thank you! I did look for it yesterday after your recommendation, but couldn't find it.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:56

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

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Labour are regressive. Not business minded people. Kemi is a steely all rounder who is making Labour look even more regressive and certainly sexist. Why they are considered to be proponents of women I don't know. Shabana was left to take questions over Henry Nowak . Probs just as well as Starmer is out of his depth. Burnham won't be different but he will be more illustrative and have presence. Trade unions and back benchers will hold Labour back. The country needs an inspirational leader, forward thinking and not afraid to be controversial.

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 11:55

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

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Yes they might pat themselves on the back for the man not being from North London but diversity for them is a Northern accent, still a white male.

I’m sure Kemi has had extra barriers, insults on here show that, but she’s strong and very successful. It rankles some, good on her.

Bushmillsbabe · 06/06/2026 11:49

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 10:44

She's fantastic, a strong, articulate black woman, who wipes the floor with Starmer. She's worked hard and has been patient in building her popularity. I admire her mainly for her balanced thinking which will appeal to the centrist. Let's hope she can turn around the party before the next GE. THAT is what a leader looks like. Come on Kemi.

Absolutely.
All this talk of labour being multicultural, better for women. To my recollection, they have never had a female leader, or a female pm. I don't think they have any non white pms either? They will have females in the party, and even in senior roles to make it look like they value them, but won't let them lead the party it seems.

Conservatives have had several female PM's, and Sunak as a non white PM. And now have a black women as leader.

Labour are just all talk. And when they elect their next leader, my money is on a white male again.

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:47

Anyway, back to Badenoch, after all the thread’s supposed to be about her. I think those of you who approve of her should be genuinely proud of her reaction to Henry Nowak’s murder. Her response has been perfect and she’s risen in my estimation as a result.

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:42

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:38

Because she already knows my opinion of Starmer.

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No, I don't. I know you hate reform aand have more tolerance for the conservatives although you still broadly dislike them. But I don't know your opinion on Starmer, it has certainly never come up when we have disagreed about policy. You don't have to answer, obviously, but I am not a mind reader.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:40

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:38

Because she already knows my opinion of Starmer.

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Kemi isn't stuck in her ways and can answer a question or provide nuance when prompted. She never throws a strop either and isn't put off when faced with lazy stereotyping.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:39

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:36

😆 🤣 think we are going to have to adopt leftworld

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Yep. I'm stealing that 🤣

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:38

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:36

How is it provocative to ask your opinion on Keir Starmer?

Have you deemed his name to be some far left (or far right, who knows) dog whistle or something?

I like Kemi’s approach where she just gives a straight answer to a straight question is far more productive to conversation.

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Because she already knows my opinion of Starmer.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 06/06/2026 11:36

BIossomtoes · 06/06/2026 11:30

I’ve been here a very long time. I recognise provocation when I see it and know which posters are practised at it. Upstartled and I have crossed swords many times.

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How is it provocative to ask your opinion on Keir Starmer?

Have you deemed his name to be some far left (or far right, who knows) dog whistle or something?

I like Kemi’s approach where she just gives a straight answer to a straight question is far more productive to conversation.

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:36

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 11:30

"Leftworld' 😂

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😆 🤣 think we are going to have to adopt leftworld

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:33

Cross swords?! I don't know why you are being so dramatic. Surely, you have an opinion on why you think Starmer is well suited to lead the country? I'm interested in your opinion.

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