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SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:52

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:40

I thought you’d say that. Whoever it is they’re likely doing worse in the polls and the leader’s rating lower than Kemi’s since she is out rating the male leaders.

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Because it's an odd deflection and I'm not indulging it. Who cares that she is female? Or black? Irrelevant. Commenting on that rather than capability is reductive. I was commenting that her ratings are substantially at odds with what is said about her on some threads on Mumsnet. That is indisputable.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:52

jasflowers · 06/06/2026 14:17

Did you notice the recent council elections?

The Tories lost 100s of councillors, barely better than Labour, so whatever her own personal ratings, they are not translating into votes or support for the Tories.

Should this remain, then yes she will be gone by 2029, the Cons are nothing but ruthless when it comes to getting rid of their failed leaders, by god they have enough practice 😆

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Oh I see. So you'd prefer Reform to be the party of the right?
You may get your wish in 2029.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 14:50

LuckyHazelFox · 06/06/2026 11:36

😆 🤣 think we are going to have to adopt leftworld

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I was thinking the same. It's a great word. Westworld dystopia vibes. Excellent.

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itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 06/06/2026 14:42

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 11:02

Right, sorry for provocatively asking why you like the leader of your preferred party...I'll try and keep the inflammatory comments down 🤷🏼‍♀️

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EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:40

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:31

An answer - Nothing to do with you but it's not Labour.

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I thought you’d say that. Whoever it is they’re likely doing worse in the polls and the leader’s rating lower than Kemi’s since she is out rating the male leaders.

jasflowers · 06/06/2026 14:37

Both Tories and Labour are neck n neck on 19% (YouGov voting Intentions)

Tories should be way ahead, if they cannot do well against an unpopular PM and Govt, then thats on their leadership.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:31

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:28

A question, who are you voting for? Not many are doing that well.

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An answer - Nothing to do with you but it's not Labour.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 14:30

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:13

Haha at both, wth

Ludicrous

Wasn’t Labour offensive about Kwasi Kwarteng too? Not sounding as he should. A bit like the not the right sort comment in pp

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I know I have always voted Labour but as an Asian person, I have voted for them despite this, but it has always been highly irritating to me. They don't see 'PoC' as people with different backgrounds and experiences. Yet they have no problem with seeing White Europeans as different people with different political views and experiences. Asian people ( and Black people) have vastly different experiences, background, education, religions, countries etc. We don't all think the same because we come from vastly different backgrounds, just as White Europeans do. Many Black and Asian people have problems with illegal immigration for example not because they are ' pulling up the drawbridge' but because they have the same concerns about excessive immigration as anyone else. Plus the added concern that if they have claimed asylum from their home country they don't want random people who could possibly have been the people they were escaping from in the first place rocking up - a major problem for the Iranian dissidents community for eg-or sectarian violence being dragged into their streets or to be put out of business by people running visa and immigration scams, and being tarred with the same brush.

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:28

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:28

Deflection. You seem to think all dissenters vote Labour. They don't.

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A question, who are you voting for? Not many are doing that well.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:28

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:26

Who do you vote for @SpinningInInfinity? If it’s still Labour you have bigger issues with your party.

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Deflection. You seem to think all dissenters vote Labour. They don't.

Smeuse · 06/06/2026 14:28

She spoke sense by condemning Farage's comments on Wednesday.

That was all

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:26

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:22

Precisely. How do they square the poor ongoing Tory ratings with the supposed miracle that is Kemi? La La Land.

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Who do you vote for @SpinningInInfinity? If it’s still Labour you have bigger issues with your party.

PeachOctopus · 06/06/2026 14:26

They can’t be trusted after the Boris wave.

SpinningInInfinity · 06/06/2026 14:22

jasflowers · 06/06/2026 14:17

Did you notice the recent council elections?

The Tories lost 100s of councillors, barely better than Labour, so whatever her own personal ratings, they are not translating into votes or support for the Tories.

Should this remain, then yes she will be gone by 2029, the Cons are nothing but ruthless when it comes to getting rid of their failed leaders, by god they have enough practice 😆

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Precisely. How do they square the poor ongoing Tory ratings with the supposed miracle that is Kemi? La La Land.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:19

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 14:09

Sorry @WaffleBomb. I'm still petitioning for a sarcasm emoji.

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I know what you meant. We know each other well enough by now. 😊

jasflowers · 06/06/2026 14:17

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 10:08

Why on earth would she be ousted? Absolute made up rubbish.
You must be watching and reading some twisted stuff to have these views. She is doing very well.

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Did you notice the recent council elections?

The Tories lost 100s of councillors, barely better than Labour, so whatever her own personal ratings, they are not translating into votes or support for the Tories.

Should this remain, then yes she will be gone by 2029, the Cons are nothing but ruthless when it comes to getting rid of their failed leaders, by god they have enough practice 😆

EasternStandard · 06/06/2026 14:13

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:05

That's her excuse for the tories having female leaders, but not Labour. She's been saying that for years now. Its ludicrous.

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Haha at both, wth

Ludicrous

Wasn’t Labour offensive about Kwasi Kwarteng too? Not sounding as he should. A bit like the not the right sort comment in pp

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 14:09

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:58

I know, was joking.
Her past activities are very troubling.

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Sorry @WaffleBomb. I'm still petitioning for a sarcasm emoji.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 14:05

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 14:02

Who died and made her The Definer of Feminists? Silly cake head.

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That's her excuse for the tories having female leaders, but not Labour. She's been saying that for years now. Its ludicrous.

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 14:02

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:52

Well said. The evidence is there. They will definitely replace Starmer with yet another white male.
Harriet Harman says that Conservative women aren't real feminists.

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Who died and made her The Definer of Feminists? Silly cake head.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:58

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 13:56

I hope she leaves her activist days on that side of the house.

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I know, was joking.
Her past activities are very troubling.

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 13:58

Twiglets1 · 06/06/2026 13:29

Labour seem to think she's not left wing enough.

Also explains why non- Labour party voters like her.

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Purity spiralling to prevent women of colour progressing - yep, that’s the Labour Party.

Upstartled · 06/06/2026 13:56

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:54

Speaks volumes doesn't it.
As a pp said, I doubt she'll even stand as its pointless. I'm hoping she crosses the floor soon. 😁

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I hope she leaves her activist days on that side of the house.

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:54

KTheGrey · 06/06/2026 13:27

The media doesn’t seem to think Shabana Mahmood is in with a shout, which is interesting given she polls more popular with non-Labour Party voters than any of the other possibles.

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Speaks volumes doesn't it.
As a pp said, I doubt she'll even stand as its pointless. I'm hoping she crosses the floor soon. 😁

WaffleBomb · 06/06/2026 13:52

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 06/06/2026 13:23

And instead of looking at why exactly they haven't felt that one woman or one Black or Brown person in their entire history has ever been suitable to be leader, they decide to dismiss the choices of Black and Brown people who serve in Conservative governments. They are either ' coconuts' or are trying to suck up to racists to protect themselves, or are in some other way too stupid to make their own decisions. Labour really need to take a hard look at themselves but of course, they won't. Too busy patting themselves on the back for ' opposing all racism and misogyny ( unless it's their own)

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Well said. The evidence is there. They will definitely replace Starmer with yet another white male.
Harriet Harman says that Conservative women aren't real feminists.