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LuckyHazelFox · 15/06/2026 13:57

He right and so is Kemi when she says its another example of Labour not knowing what they are doing.

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LuckyHazelFox · 15/06/2026 13:46

Kemi picking apart the social media ban for under 16s. Great in theory but a ban that's easily penetrable.

C8H10N4O2 · 14/06/2026 13:59

CandidLurker · 14/06/2026 11:14

Was he elected for the first time in the last general election? Maybe he saw that he would stand more chance of getting in standing as Labour. Perhaps he will switch sides before the next election?

Why on earth wouldn’t someone who is ex military want to serve on the Labour/Liberal benches? Historically there have always been a sizeable number on both Labour and Liberal benches.

Caro7457 · 14/06/2026 12:35

Like many I will never ever vote Tory again after what they did to this country with Brexit. And still they never mention it. Funny that.

BIossomtoes · 14/06/2026 11:42

CandidLurker · 14/06/2026 11:14

Was he elected for the first time in the last general election? Maybe he saw that he would stand more chance of getting in standing as Labour. Perhaps he will switch sides before the next election?

Pigs might fly. Dan Jarvis was a major in the Parachute Regiment, presumably he doesn’t have conviction either? Occasional politicians highlight and challenge our innate bias, I could never understand why John Major was a Tory.

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 11:18

CandidLurker · 14/06/2026 11:14

Was he elected for the first time in the last general election? Maybe he saw that he would stand more chance of getting in standing as Labour. Perhaps he will switch sides before the next election?

Good point. He might be showing the same level of conniving as a few Green party candidates, but with more favour to protecting Britain than the Middle East.

CandidLurker · 14/06/2026 11:14

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 09:59

As he is a former Royal marine, I can't begin to understand why Carns sits on that side of the Commons.

Was he elected for the first time in the last general election? Maybe he saw that he would stand more chance of getting in standing as Labour. Perhaps he will switch sides before the next election?

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 10:39

Twiglets1 · 14/06/2026 10:34

It could be a good thing for Labour if someone like him was in charge - at least it sounds like he would have some conviction & be decisive!

He wouldn't stand a chance with the backbenchers. I agree his being PM would be the equivalent of a real old fashioned copper being in charge of the Met. It won't ever be allowed to happen under the current political two main party system. Kemi is the nearest we've got though to seeing some much needed pragmatism instead of Starmer non committal waffle. We've simply got no leadership and are very vulnerable at present.

Twiglets1 · 14/06/2026 10:34

It could be a good thing for Labour if someone like him was in charge - at least it sounds like he would have some conviction & be decisive!

WaffleBomb · 14/06/2026 10:25

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 09:59

As he is a former Royal marine, I can't begin to understand why Carns sits on that side of the Commons.

Same

EasternStandard · 14/06/2026 09:59

CaveMum · 14/06/2026 09:56

He’s on LK this morning.

She said to him: “You've made it clear, if there was a contest you’d run, even though you’ve not even been an MP for 2 years.”

AC: “I’m really good at running”.

Gauntlet. Thrown.

😂

LuckyHazelFox · 14/06/2026 09:59

As he is a former Royal marine, I can't begin to understand why Carns sits on that side of the Commons.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 14/06/2026 09:57

CaveMum · 14/06/2026 09:56

He’s on LK this morning.

She said to him: “You've made it clear, if there was a contest you’d run, even though you’ve not even been an MP for 2 years.”

AC: “I’m really good at running”.

Gauntlet. Thrown.

😂

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CaveMum · 14/06/2026 09:56

He’s on LK this morning.

She said to him: “You've made it clear, if there was a contest you’d run, even though you’ve not even been an MP for 2 years.”

AC: “I’m really good at running”.

Gauntlet. Thrown.

Twiglets1 · 14/06/2026 09:10

CaveMum · 14/06/2026 08:48

Al Carns said several weeks ago that he would consider standing in a Leadership contest.

I’m no Labour fan, but a Bootneck in charge could be exactly what this country needs!

His trip up Everest during the Easter Recess was very on brand.

And also more recently...

Asked on Friday what was next for him, Mr Carns told LBC: “I’m going to go to the back benches, and I’m going to stand up for the things I believe in.”

Challenged about how he would respond if there were a tussle for the leadership and “the ball comes out from the back of the scrum”, he said: “I’m good at rugby and football, but we’ll see what happens.”

When it was put to him that it sounded as though he was “prepared to have a go at it”, Mr Carns said: “I’m always up for playing.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/12/al-carns-hints-at-labour-leadership-bid/

WaffleBomb · 14/06/2026 09:05

CaveMum · 14/06/2026 08:48

Al Carns said several weeks ago that he would consider standing in a Leadership contest.

I’m no Labour fan, but a Bootneck in charge could be exactly what this country needs!

His trip up Everest during the Easter Recess was very on brand.

He seems to agree with Kemi on defence. Perhaps he should cross the floor. 😁

CaveMum · 14/06/2026 08:48

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 12/06/2026 14:57

I think he might be honing a leadership bid.

Al Carns said several weeks ago that he would consider standing in a Leadership contest.

I’m no Labour fan, but a Bootneck in charge could be exactly what this country needs!

His trip up Everest during the Easter Recess was very on brand.

WaffleBomb · 14/06/2026 08:33

EasternStandard · 13/06/2026 13:09

She’s right on Corner. Polanski is far off

Glad she called out ZP on this. He's despicable. Excellent response from her.

WaffleBomb · 14/06/2026 08:31

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 14/06/2026 06:59

Another stateswoman like move from KB. Cross-party cooperation offer, again. what will SKS say? Ignore her, again?

Kemi Badenoch has called on Sir Keir Starmer and his potential Labour leadership rivals to cut welfare spending and redirect savings to defence.
The Conservative leader offered her party's support to get the necessary legislation through parliament in a letter to the prime minister, as well as to his possible successors.

"I have made several offers to work with you in the national interest to reduce benefit spending so we can invest more in our defence. Sir Tony Blair, the longest-serving Labour prime minister, has urged you to accept them," she wrote.

"Since the Parliamentary defeat of your modest attempt at welfare reform in the summer of last year, it is obvious that your left-wing MPs will not support any real attempt to cut the welfare bills. Therefore, the support of the Conservatives will be critical to delivering substantive reforms that will reduce the benefits bill."

https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-urges-labour-leadership-rivals-to-cut-welfare-spending-and-boost-defence-13553762

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Great. Most people would agree that this is the sensible approach, and yes very stateswoman like again.
Starmer will ignore, but she's right.

Twiglets1 · 14/06/2026 07:06

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 14/06/2026 06:59

Another stateswoman like move from KB. Cross-party cooperation offer, again. what will SKS say? Ignore her, again?

Kemi Badenoch has called on Sir Keir Starmer and his potential Labour leadership rivals to cut welfare spending and redirect savings to defence.
The Conservative leader offered her party's support to get the necessary legislation through parliament in a letter to the prime minister, as well as to his possible successors.

"I have made several offers to work with you in the national interest to reduce benefit spending so we can invest more in our defence. Sir Tony Blair, the longest-serving Labour prime minister, has urged you to accept them," she wrote.

"Since the Parliamentary defeat of your modest attempt at welfare reform in the summer of last year, it is obvious that your left-wing MPs will not support any real attempt to cut the welfare bills. Therefore, the support of the Conservatives will be critical to delivering substantive reforms that will reduce the benefits bill."

https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-urges-labour-leadership-rivals-to-cut-welfare-spending-and-boost-defence-13553762

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Sounds sensible. Can't see Keir Starmer taking her up on the offer but maybe one of the other candidates will, if they end up replacing Starmer as party leader.

I think he must have realised by now that it was a mistake not to just listen to John Healey in the first place and divert more money into Defence.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 14/06/2026 06:59

Another stateswoman like move from KB. Cross-party cooperation offer, again. what will SKS say? Ignore her, again?

Kemi Badenoch has called on Sir Keir Starmer and his potential Labour leadership rivals to cut welfare spending and redirect savings to defence.
The Conservative leader offered her party's support to get the necessary legislation through parliament in a letter to the prime minister, as well as to his possible successors.

"I have made several offers to work with you in the national interest to reduce benefit spending so we can invest more in our defence. Sir Tony Blair, the longest-serving Labour prime minister, has urged you to accept them," she wrote.

"Since the Parliamentary defeat of your modest attempt at welfare reform in the summer of last year, it is obvious that your left-wing MPs will not support any real attempt to cut the welfare bills. Therefore, the support of the Conservatives will be critical to delivering substantive reforms that will reduce the benefits bill."

https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-urges-labour-leadership-rivals-to-cut-welfare-spending-and-boost-defence-13553762

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Hoanna · 13/06/2026 22:05

I like Conservatives and especially this lady will be a fresh air

Twiglets1 · 13/06/2026 19:41

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 13/06/2026 16:24

Actually per capita Jews suffer the most hate crime. This is a fact. Maybe get your facts, right.

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Yes that's right. Stats for 2026 won't be published until October but in 2025:

Official Statistics
Hate crime, England and Wales, year ending March 2025
Published 9 October 2025

Religious hate crimes rate
per 10,000 population

Jewish 106
Muslim 12
Other 18
Christian 0
Sikh 5
Hindu 2
Budhist 1

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 13/06/2026 16:24

ATrollHunter · 12/06/2026 22:27

Exactly, your the only one going off just facts not feelings.

Actually per capita Jews suffer the most hate crime. This is a fact. Maybe get your facts, right.

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