Vaping while pushing pram?

Exactly. Hysterical is the word!

This is one of the (many) areas of life that mn seems to be completely hysterical about.
Unless you are quite literally funneling vape particulates towards the babies face the amount they can possibly breathe in whilst on a walk outside is miniscule (assuming the vaper is sensible and blows the 'smoke' away from the pram).
I am going to be that person that brings up fumes from petrol and diesel engines being a massively more significant factor to our children's respiratory health. Any child in a pram outside in a large town or city is breathing in huge amounts of chemicals that no parent would want their children to ingest, does every single mumsnetter take their children out of the city to only walk in the (relatively) fresh air of the countryside? Do you all keep your windows closed at all times and have air purifiers running at home? How about school, hope they are set well away from main roads with windows closed and air purifiers running for the entire school day and they are absolutely not allowed out into the play ground?
I wanted to wait a while before properly commenting in order to play vapers bingo:
Adult dummies ✅
Chavvy ✅
Just icky ✅
Poster that coughs every time they get within 40 feet of a vape ✅
If most people on this thread are honest with themselves they view vaping as a working class/lower class pass time and that is what gives them the 'ick' about it rather than any actual credible threat to a baby in a pram outdoors.

NHS midwives don't care if you vape. They ask if you smoke but if you vape it's just down as non smoker. That's what happened at my sister's anyway.

I think I’d try very hard to quit vaping if I had a new baby. Presumably, you managed not to do it while pregnant, so would it be that hard not to resume it?

Health risks aside, this thread is evidence of how you’ll be judged.

The problem with 'a quick search' is we are drowning in dangerous misinformation about vaping, mostly emanating from the US but picked up and amplified by our own media who love a scare story.

Please read this and have a think about why this matters, and whether you want to contribute to making it worse:

https://ash.org.uk/resources/view/addressing-common-myths-about-vaping-putting-the-evidence-in-context

@SerenaCat93 the only one on this thread who seems angry is you……

Amongst the people I know it’s a commonly held opinion that yup vaping = stinky dummies. No reason to be angry. It just looks stupid and is an unpleasant habit (albeit less socially annoying than smoking which does smell a lot worse). So many vaping shops in town is also annoying but again not a reason for anger.

Yeah the vapour isn't going near the baby. I mean even a cigarette isn't if you're outdoors.

Plus the fact I'm not in the habit of observing strangers to that degree.

Your poll is really unclear I wanted to say you were unreasonable to think it was ok, or was I supposed to you were reasonable to question it? No idea.

Anyway it's grim and chavvy. I would judge.

Because it sounds pathetic and childish. You may as well shout EWW in your best high pitched 10 year old voice.

I used to vape for a few years to quit smoking, I don't anymore. I certainly don't feel triggered to shout juvenile insults at people when I see them vaping!

There’s only no evidence YET because vaping hasn’t been a thing long enough for the exposed babies to grow up and show ill effects. This is dangerous advice!

A lot of vitriol in those words for mere opinions against isn't there? You can hear the venom they're spat with through the screen.

I think vaping looks stupid is an opinion.

I think vapers are chavvy, scummy, adult babies who look they're sucking on a dummy are extremely angry statements that come from people who are clearly triggered by it to a visceral reaction. It's really not normal to be that disgusted by normal people doing normal things like using a quit smoking aid.

Why the face? Do you vape yourself? Cos that’s what vaping looks like to many of us that don’t. Stinky dummies for adults.

I provided you with a link to the data.

0.9% of never smokers are vapers. Is that an awful lot? How many of them would have started smoking if vapes were not available? Why are you trying to deny that people vape primarily to quit smoking, cut down or prevent relapse?

Not acceptable at all. Vapes should be no where near babies and children.

Denying government research too now huh? Because it doesn't fit your personal narrative. That's definitely in the ball park of losing your shit 🤣

Yeah, it's really not people losing their shit. It's peoples opinions.

And no-one berating vaping is ranting.

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Ranting on about adult dummies, adult babies, scummy, Chavvy etc. absolutely is losing their shit.

@Nowdontmakeamess Bit pointless trying to berate vaping. Some people have it in their head that there is nothing wrong with it, it's harmful, and they all look cool doing it.

I'm gonna leave them all to it. Can't change their minds.

No WAY is it only 5%.

I’d think it was disgusting if I saw someone doing that.

All the people saying there’s no evidence it’s harmful - have you even bothered to check?! A quick search shows they contain, in addition to nicotine, ultra fine particles that can get deep into the lungs, chemicals like formaldehyde & flavouring agents & heavy metals. None of which are suitable for a newborn!

Exposure has been linked to irritation of the lungs/airways, increased respiratory infections, plus potential long term effects on brain development & conditions like asthma.

Risk present from secondhand exposure (someone vaping near them) and from third hand exposure (residue left on clothes, hair, skin etc).

YANBU

Only 5% of vapers have never smoked. It's surprising that you only know vapers from this tiny group.

@PencilsInSpace There's still an awful lot of people who just started vaping for no reason whatsover. Why are some people trying to deny this? 10s of 1000s of people have started it 'just because' when they didn't smoke before.

Well, if they're OK with it, when it's clear what (some) people think of vaping, they can crack on.

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Conversely, all the vapers I know are NOT ex smokers. They just decded to start vaping. And no-one is losing their shit. 🙄 That's just what the vape fans tell themselves.

As has been said, it's a bloody awful habit. Utterly grim. It's unfathomable why people defend it.

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Very few people vape in order to give up the smoking!

This is false.

Vaping is much more common among current and ex-smokers. Of the 10.4% of current vapers (an estimated 5.5 million adults), 55% (3.0 million) are ex-smokers, 40% (2.2 million) are current smokers and 5% (260,000) are never smokers.

More than half of ex-smokers who quit in the last five years say they used a vape in their last quit attempt, (55%) which amounts to 2.4 million ex-smokers. Among those who quit smoking in the last 5 years using a vape, 60% are still vaping while 32% have quit vaping as well.

When current vapers who are ex-smokers are asked for their main reason for vaping, the most frequently cited reasons are: to help them quit smoking (26%), as an aid to keep them off tobacco (20%), to cope with stress or mental health (14%) and because they enjoy it (11%).

The main reasons current vapers who also smoke (dual users) give for vaping are to help them to help cut down the amount smoked (16%), because they enjoy it (13%), to deal with situations where they cannot smoke (11%) and to try to help them quit (10%).

https://ash.org.uk/resources/view/use-of-e-cigarettes-among-adults-in-great-britain