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Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 08:53

DS (9) lost 5 minutes off his break yesterday because he didn’t complete his work in time. He said his teacher wrote the questions on the board and he didn’t get to write them down in time before she had wiped them off. He didn’t tell her that he didn’t get the questions down in time. He eventually got the remaining questions from his friend and completed the work but still lost his break. He said the questions were difficult and he was stuck working them out. I should add I believe my son has adhd like me so I’m fully aware he may be struggling and not using his voice when he needs to be.

My concern is she didn’t ask him why he didn’t manage to complete it she just took his book away from him and didn’t ask no further questions.

Then the 5 minutes he lost in break she still didn’t address it with him?

this is the response I’ve had from her

Hi, no he did not tell me or the other adults in class that he was struggling. If he had, we would have given him the support he needed. I will pick this up with him today or tomorrow and find out which question he was struggling with. By the end of the lesson, he had actually completed the flashback which was the work I was talking about. Thanks for letting me know.

DH feels like she is fobbing us off, I hate confrontation but I’m fully aware I need to be supporting my son.

Thoughts please

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 06/05/2026 10:39

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:04

I have mentioned to his teacher before that I believe he has ADHD and she stated that she doesn’t believe so. But he forget his homework all the time, forgets to bring home reading books. I have to be on to him all the time.

I have told DS he needs to use his voice. I’m more worried about the fact she didn’t speak to him and ask why?

She doesn't have to support your non-diagnosis. He clearly needs more guidance and support but from home in the first instance.

Sunburstclocklover · 06/05/2026 10:38

We had this 15 years ago with my dyslexic daughter. Teacher deliberately wiped the questions/instructions off the board before she could copy them down. Denied there was such a thing as dyslexia. Said it was an excuse for middle class parents with thick kids. Leaving them up supports all students and different learning approaches. This is an easy win for the teacher! Unless it's flagged as a memory test then no need to erase. After all you get an exam paper with the question printed!
Ps daughter got a 1st at a Russell group uni in a 'real' subject and won the Dean's prize for an outstanding dissertation. So not thick!

Scout2016 · 06/05/2026 10:37

What was he kept in for, if he had finished the work?

Otherwise, you are miffed she didn't speak to him. She has replied, she has said she will speak to him, she has thanked you. She can't go back in time and speak to him and change the break situation.

Your son finished on time, despite saying he was delayed as he didn't have the questions down to begin with and then getting stuck trying to answer them. So that sounds like he's actually doing OK? Aside from not speaking up when he should.

Lost break time is usual in my child's school but as above, I can't work out why your son lost time given he'd finished.

Franpie · 06/05/2026 10:34

OP, there are going to be things that happen at school with your child that you or he don’t agree with. The school, and any future school, will make decisions that you wouldn’t have done. But you really need to pick your battles otherwise when you do have a real, genuine concern, your credibility will be tainted as you’ll be seen as one of those parents who complains about anything and everything.

Let this one go, this is not a hill to die on.

LemonandLimesoda · 06/05/2026 10:19

Op, have you had a chat with the SENCO about your son's ADHD traits? It is important that he has a SEN passport. They can infact give this without a diagnosis, as it concerns any additional educational needs or support.

I also agree with acouple of other poster in that the teacher's methods seem a little outdated. Nobody copies from the board in my dc's school, it does sound a bit archaic and will disadvantage certain children. I also don't agree with taking breaktime away for minor things. Some schools have some horrible rules, mu friend had to complain as her little girl (5) was the only child in the class not to get a biscuit from the teacher. Her Mum forgot to update the reading record for one of the days, and if not complete they don't give the kids a biscuit! It is ridiculous hardly in a 5 year olds control. Don't get me started on attendance awards as well!

Jeschara · 06/05/2026 10:17

Do you and your husband look for trouble? You said you think he has ADHD, the teacher does not. Start the process of getting him assesed if you are that concerned.

As someone said upthread certain behaviours are not always ADHD. I know parents who have had children assessed for this and it is not.

usedtobeaylis · 06/05/2026 10:11

Runningshoes99 · 06/05/2026 10:09

Hey OP, I think some of the replies you've had are harsh. Copying questions from the board is generally considered poor classroom practice now. Any kid with dyslexia or any other visual or processing issue in that class will be disadvantaged by this, as well as your son. It's also a waste of time for the most able.
I think the issue (which the teacher hasn't really addressed in that quite confusing email she has sent you) is whether your son was messing around / misbehaving, which is why he didn't finish, in which case the punishment is fair enough, or whether he was punished for not finishing the work, in which case clearly, the teacher should have asked whether he was struggling with it and sought to support him, rather than moving straight to a punishment. I am all for supporting teachers, they are amazing and should be paid ten times more for what they do, but I'm not convinced on the available evidence that this teacher got it right on this occasion. I think it would be fair to ask further questions - in a polite and non confrontational manner. I would also ask your son more questions about how he is feeling about the work in school, whether he is struggling and whether he finds copying from the board hard. I'm surprised the teacher would offer an opinion on whether or not he has ADHD.

I think the issue (which the teacher hasn't really addressed in that quite confusing email she has sent you) is whether your son was messing around / misbehaving, which is why he didn't finish, in which case the punishment is fair enough, or whether he was punished for not finishing the work, in which case clearly, the teacher should have asked whether he was struggling with it and sought to support him, rather than moving straight to a punishment.

100% this.

usedtobeaylis · 06/05/2026 10:10

AmusedMember · 06/05/2026 10:06

He didn't lose his break, he lost 5 mins!

Get a grip, perhaps next time he will raise the issue that he is struggling.

Once in a while it would be nice if someone managed to put themselves in the shoes of a 9 year old and understand the things that matter to them. Sometimes it's actually ok to not be on a power trip and try tell a kid what's what, and instead they and understand their perspective. School is difficult for kids in part because so many adults expect far too much from young children. The whole damn point is that education is an ongoing experience and that's not just academically.

CupcakeDreams · 06/05/2026 10:10

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:04

I have mentioned to his teacher before that I believe he has ADHD and she stated that she doesn’t believe so. But he forget his homework all the time, forgets to bring home reading books. I have to be on to him all the time.

I have told DS he needs to use his voice. I’m more worried about the fact she didn’t speak to him and ask why?

Thus lies the danger of mum-diagnosis for autism and ADHD, both of which are truly very rare in the general population, and are not a catch all for all behaviours.

Runningshoes99 · 06/05/2026 10:09

Hey OP, I think some of the replies you've had are harsh. Copying questions from the board is generally considered poor classroom practice now. Any kid with dyslexia or any other visual or processing issue in that class will be disadvantaged by this, as well as your son. It's also a waste of time for the most able.
I think the issue (which the teacher hasn't really addressed in that quite confusing email she has sent you) is whether your son was messing around / misbehaving, which is why he didn't finish, in which case the punishment is fair enough, or whether he was punished for not finishing the work, in which case clearly, the teacher should have asked whether he was struggling with it and sought to support him, rather than moving straight to a punishment. I am all for supporting teachers, they are amazing and should be paid ten times more for what they do, but I'm not convinced on the available evidence that this teacher got it right on this occasion. I think it would be fair to ask further questions - in a polite and non confrontational manner. I would also ask your son more questions about how he is feeling about the work in school, whether he is struggling and whether he finds copying from the board hard. I'm surprised the teacher would offer an opinion on whether or not he has ADHD.

ACynicalDad · 06/05/2026 10:08

Generally, I'm the team teacher on this; kids need some resilience, and sometimes life isn't 100% fair, but he will still learn from this and 5 mins is hardly no breaks for a week territory, fine to clarify by any more is being unreasonable. What age is the child? - presuming KS2ish?

loulouljh · 06/05/2026 10:08

He lost just 5 mins? its seriously no big deal.

CircusAcer · 06/05/2026 10:07

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:19

He had already finished his work before they went off to lunch and still lost 5 minutes of his break. He never mentioned he was chatting or messing around and she hasn’t either so that doesn’t really play a part here.

But his break is before lunch, he lost part of his break because he should have been doing the work and didn't complete it. He is 9, he knows how this works.

Completed it before lunch means that he possibly took time away from something else like reading as it is important to complete maths work. Maths is a building block subject, you need the foundations of what you are learning to build on it the next day. They need to finish the work before break as instructed as he will just fall behind.

The school day is really tight and this is why I never allowed my children do have music lessons in school as they miss core subject time. Mornings are core subjects so in the school I was in, maths, English and 30 minutes of reading.

Maybe your son has a history of messing around and cutting it fine for finishing work. To everyone saying shitty teachers, have you volunteered your time to work in a classroom? Until you have been in one, you don't know how difficult it can be to keep children on task.

I used to work with the low ability children, keep them on task, guide them where needed. They all tried really hard to do the work. Luckily I had a spare table that could accommodate them for a short time. Most classrooms do not have the extra room to separate children out and it is preferred that they work on mixed ability tables.

Your son has now learned that if he is struggling he needs to ask for help. There is nothing wrong with asking for help, you can model this at home by asking for help with things and point it out when you do it.

AmusedMember · 06/05/2026 10:06

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 08:53

DS (9) lost 5 minutes off his break yesterday because he didn’t complete his work in time. He said his teacher wrote the questions on the board and he didn’t get to write them down in time before she had wiped them off. He didn’t tell her that he didn’t get the questions down in time. He eventually got the remaining questions from his friend and completed the work but still lost his break. He said the questions were difficult and he was stuck working them out. I should add I believe my son has adhd like me so I’m fully aware he may be struggling and not using his voice when he needs to be.

My concern is she didn’t ask him why he didn’t manage to complete it she just took his book away from him and didn’t ask no further questions.

Then the 5 minutes he lost in break she still didn’t address it with him?

this is the response I’ve had from her

Hi, no he did not tell me or the other adults in class that he was struggling. If he had, we would have given him the support he needed. I will pick this up with him today or tomorrow and find out which question he was struggling with. By the end of the lesson, he had actually completed the flashback which was the work I was talking about. Thanks for letting me know.

DH feels like she is fobbing us off, I hate confrontation but I’m fully aware I need to be supporting my son.

Thoughts please

He didn't lose his break, he lost 5 mins!

Get a grip, perhaps next time he will raise the issue that he is struggling.

usedtobeaylis · 06/05/2026 10:06

WhatAMarvelousTune · 06/05/2026 09:05

It’s not something I’d complain about as a one off. But I actually don’t think it’s a reasonable punishment - I think students should only be punished for not finishing work if they’re pissing about, talking, not actually doing it.
If it is correct that the teacher just said “you’ve not finished so you’re missing some break” then tbh I do think that not having any attempt to discuss whether the student was finding it too difficult to finish in time is a bit crap.

I agree with this. Putting the onus on a 9 year old to always be able to have the confidence to articulate they're struggling or don't understand something isn't appropriate. And losing your break for that is punitive on that context.

catipuss · 06/05/2026 10:05

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:05

What is it then? Because I don’t remember loosing my break in year 4 for not getting work done in time.

It was very common in my school if you hadn't finished something particularly a test you carried on into break or possibly got a detention to finish it if they thought you weren't working hard.

usedtobeaylis · 06/05/2026 10:04

This isn't why teachers are leaving ffs. Children need to ask for help but teachers also need to continue to understand that children can find that difficult to do. Its fundamental.

DaisyChain505 · 06/05/2026 10:03

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:04

I have mentioned to his teacher before that I believe he has ADHD and she stated that she doesn’t believe so. But he forget his homework all the time, forgets to bring home reading books. I have to be on to him all the time.

I have told DS he needs to use his voice. I’m more worried about the fact she didn’t speak to him and ask why?

If you believe he has ADHD, get him assessed and get a proper diagnosis so the school can put proper support in place. Imagine if every parent came in saying I think my child has XYZ without actually having a professional diagnosis and they expected special treatment. It’s just not reasonable.

BleedinglyObvious · 06/05/2026 10:02

He lost 5 minutes of break time. You've probably lost more time over this non-issue.
Forgetting books and homework is quite normal behaviour for young boys. I doubt he has ADHD but he has that parent.

Stnam · 06/05/2026 10:02

It is 5 mins of his break. It is completely normal for children to sometimes finish off their work for a few minutes before heading out to break. Some of them are told to quickly finish it off and some of them ask if they can stay and do it. It really isn't a big deal. Sometimes they get an extra 5mins of break and that isn't a big deal either.

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 06/05/2026 10:01

It’s 5 mins ! You’ve literally took the time to come on here about 5 mins of a lost break. Your son will be fine poor little darling. You’d best toughen up for the ride that is secondary school.

CharSiu · 06/05/2026 10:00

Who would teach these days, no wonder they are leaving in droves, he is 9 and needs to speak up. Her response was completely fine.

Plus the ADHD is for you to seek a diagnosis which begins with speaking to a Dr either NHS or private. Just because people forget stuff doesn’t automatically make them need a diagnosis.Having to go on in at children all the time is the parents job and why it can be tiring and isn’t easy.

stealthninjamum · 06/05/2026 10:00

Op I feel sorry for him and I think you need a diagnosis because there will always be teachers who don’t agree with you. I had years of my child being criticised and punished for this sort of thing.

The teacher already knows he might have adhd but chose to wipe the questions off the board without asking whether all the kids had written them down.

Kids with adhd may be 25% less mature than neurotypical so he shouldn’t be judged on the ‘typical’ child in has age group but one or two years younger.

SummerFleurs · 06/05/2026 09:59

Rather than looking for potential diagnosis, look for things that would support him

For example, a reasonable adjustment could be:

  • Having the questions provided on paper in front of him

I don’t think breaks should be removed from children. They need that rest period and down time. I wouldn’t treat one of my team at work in that way and remove their break

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/05/2026 09:57

Tessasanderson · 06/05/2026 09:28

You pointed out an issue that you DS kept quiet about. The teacher acknowledged that if he had pointed it out he would have been given extra help. She is now aware of the situation and has noted she will try to help.

What more do you want? Your child is not her only focus and she has dealt with your enquiry professionally, promptly and with respect. Move on and let her do her job. It sounds like she is good at it

This. It's sorted. Move on.