Thought on this? DS school situation..

Clearly you don’t have ADHD. It’s not drivel to the kids or the parents.

FIVE MINUTES to catch up with the work. Which he needed to do so as not to fall behind. Wtf is wrong with people?

Ok fair enough I wasn't aware of that, that isn't how it works in my very limited experience, our school is very good at working out what's reasonable and they don't do things if they aren't

Many "reasonable adjustments" are unreasonable on the teacher. They forget there is one teacher in the room. It's a huge problem in mainstream classrooms.

Flippin heck, this is why teaching is a nightmare. The teacher kept your son back to get something finished that he needed to finish. She then had to justify herself to you, which she did very politely. And you’re still griping about it.

I think you are effectively arguing that reasonable adjustments are somehow unreasonable!

Reasonable adjustments means something that is reasonable for the teacher, class and situation, so having a teacher follow one child around would be almost certainly not a reasonable adjustment. And an adjustment that unreasonably impacts other children would definitely be a no go.

Ideally all children would be able to learn effectively without a 1:1, but for some, they really do need someone constantly prompting them. , I would have thought a reasonable adjustment here could even be as simple as having a cue card sticky back plasticed to his desk reminding him what to pack, or a rhyme to sing in his head, and maybe a reminder 5 minutes before the end of class for the transition. But that's what people involved need to work out.

It's 5minutes. WHAT is the matter with you?

I half agree with you, yes I think parents should put things in place as a first step, but in my experience teachers really like to know about what's going on at home and any concerns so they can support from their side. We have had great results from working with the class teacher on impending issues, meaning that stress levels have been reduced, making the rest of the day go better.

I have to assume you are either joking to prove how ridiculous this complaint is, or have misunderstood the acts of Nazis.

If I remember correctly, children were killed by the Nazis rather than given five fewer minutes of free play with their friends.

I don't think that the punishment was reasonable. Not all children will copy the questions from the board at the same pace. Yes he does need to learn to speak up for himself. However not all 9 year olds are good at speaking up when they need help. I didn't speak up much when i was 9 as i was worried about drawing attention to myself. I grew in confidence at secondary school.

You are describing most 9 yo boys my son was and still is exactly the same. However, what 9yo doesn’t need to be told to do homework or to bring their reading books home. I would often send mine back in to retrieve forgotten items. They hated this so much as it meant they missed walking down the road with their mates.

as for missing the work assuming all the other 29 kids managed to finish it he must have not been doing what he was asked. He wouldn’t be the only child who has some neuro diverse traits. You can’t expect the teachers to treat him like he has something he hasn’t been diagnosed with especially when they can’t see it themselves. You think you’re being fobbed off but all I see is a witch hunt to get this teacher in trouble for doing her job. If she didn’t care then she wouldn’t spend 5 minutes of her own break trying to teach your son the importance of doing his work and she has had no thanks for it

So it was five minutes for not copying off the board in the time that presumably everyone else managed to? Because it wasn't for not completing his work as he did complete his work. So it's not about him needing help to complete work.

He presumably had the amaze time as his peers to copy the thing off the board. Not copying off the board in time is typically something that happens when a child is not listening to instructions or willfully ignoring them, daydreaming or talking. Some children do find it harder or are slower than others but the teacher knows this and will make accommodations for it. If the teacher had left him to copy for longer, the whole class would have been held back because she couldn't use the board to teach the next thing.

A 9-year-old without significant SEN needs to take basic accountability for his actions. One way to learn that is through a consequence. I prefer natural consequences when possible but for something like this, the natural consequence is not learning/working, so is not an option. Therefore the teacher gave him a 5 minute break time "detention". This seems reasonable and proportionate to me. He still had most of his breaktime.

Making a big deal over five minutes is a waste of everyone's energy.

It's 5 minutes, it's not like she put him in detention for the whole of lunchtime. Just shrug and get on with your life, totally not worth any more of your headspace.

It's amazing how often children 'forget' things they aren't fussed about like bringing home their reading book.
Yet somehow they never 'forget' to remind you of their daily TV or screen time, or that you promised them they could have an icecream out of the freezer after dinner!

Everyone forgets stuff and yes it's very very common that a 9 year old who doesn't especially like reading might forget their reading book quite regularly. It doesn't necessarily mean he has adhd. His teacher is spending 9-3 every day with him it would likely be fairly obvious to her as a trained professional if he was showing signs of adhd.

OP focus with your son on him communicating it more clearly if he missed the questions on the board etc.

Losing 5 minutes of a break is not really a big deal? He got the learning done. He also learned the consequences of not speaking up.

It’s not worth a fuss, surely?

My son is awaiting an assessment and his new school have made reasonable adjustments for him. His previous school failed to explain anything to him in a way he could understand and punished him daily, removing his breaks to do work and being very stern with him in class. It damaged him emotionally, he eventually refused to engage in any learning and he completely shut down. I removed him from school, homeschooled for 5 months and sent him somewhere new. He went back confident, advanced and able to implement methods I taught him to help with focus etc. Some schools cause more harm than good if the teachers aren't willing or encouraged to adapt their teaching style, even slightly, for different kids.

Speak to the SEN rep at the school and make sure they put in place any support he needs.

I mean the teacher saying she will talk to your son is the opposite of fobbing off is it not.

what have you done about the suspected ADHD? All the time on threads its suspect they have xxx as if that excuses behaviour.

It is for ADHD / autism diagnosis, in fact my niece's was almost 8 years to get seen and get a diagnosis.

6 years!? Utter nonsense there are NO NHS waiting lists in the entire UK that are 6 years long! 😆

Tell him to just ignore her next time she tries to snatch 5 mins from his break. Jumped up cow (not you, the nazi-like teacher)

Her response isn't fobbing you off at all, if she was responding to the concern about your child not understanding the question(s). She's said she wasn't made aware of the problem at the time and, now she knows, she'll address it with your child. This is acceptable.

BUT, it sounds like the issue was he did finish his work, but was punished unnecessarily? Is that correct? If that's the case, I'd be asking why he was kept in at break time if he finished his work.

On a related note, as someone else has said, I don't think children should be kept in if they were unable to finish work because they were struggling. (DS's school agreed to additional time for him to complete work because of acquired brain damage and hearing and sight impairments...in reality, this legally required adjustment was them telling DS he could choose to go to break or stay in and finish his work! He was actually upset because he wanted to finish his work, but also wanted to go out and play. And this was in years 3 and 4.)

I’m wondering if they will put a stop to this soon. Because in my - affluent probably relevant - area, we are now in the stage where the children with the diagnosis’ are simply the richer kids, and not necessarily the children whose ADHD is more extreme. Waiting list nhs is at least 6 years long. I doubt it though as it means it doesn’t come from the NHS pot.

I don't know why schools give out teachers' email addresses. My DC's schools never did this (and that was pretty recently). If you wanted to email, then you sent the email to the one school admin person, who might or might not pass it on. That meant that the teachers could actually spend their time teaching and preparing lessons, rather than being bullied by frankly insane parents.

Good god I wouldn’t be a teacher.