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Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 08:53

DS (9) lost 5 minutes off his break yesterday because he didn’t complete his work in time. He said his teacher wrote the questions on the board and he didn’t get to write them down in time before she had wiped them off. He didn’t tell her that he didn’t get the questions down in time. He eventually got the remaining questions from his friend and completed the work but still lost his break. He said the questions were difficult and he was stuck working them out. I should add I believe my son has adhd like me so I’m fully aware he may be struggling and not using his voice when he needs to be.

My concern is she didn’t ask him why he didn’t manage to complete it she just took his book away from him and didn’t ask no further questions.

Then the 5 minutes he lost in break she still didn’t address it with him?

this is the response I’ve had from her

Hi, no he did not tell me or the other adults in class that he was struggling. If he had, we would have given him the support he needed. I will pick this up with him today or tomorrow and find out which question he was struggling with. By the end of the lesson, he had actually completed the flashback which was the work I was talking about. Thanks for letting me know.

DH feels like she is fobbing us off, I hate confrontation but I’m fully aware I need to be supporting my son.

Thoughts please

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PurpleThistle7 · 08/05/2026 07:55

My daughter is 3 years into waiting for her autism assessment. They think another 3 to go… at which point she’ll be 16 so might age out first. Luckily I’m in Scotland so she has some adjustments at school without the need for a diagnosis, but it was a very difficult time in S1. Just for the OP, you need to start fighting and researching and seeing what is possible with money or time if you really are concerned about ADHD. You’re years away from any sort of therapy or medication no matter what so better to start as soon as possible.

Sliverfish · 07/05/2026 18:40

NoisyViewer · 07/05/2026 11:36

That’s terrible and a big safeguarding concern

To leave a 9 year old in a classroom for 10 minutes? Seriously?

NoisyViewer · 07/05/2026 11:36

Velumental · 07/05/2026 09:48

The day my son's teacher cancelled their break time she still wne to the staffroom and left them to it. Literally told them she wasn't missing her break over them.

That’s terrible and a big safeguarding concern

Mangoandbroccoli · 07/05/2026 10:01

How is she ‘fobbing you off’? She replied within 24hrs; acknowledged that your son hadn’t said he was struggling so she wasn’t aware; has said she’ll talk to him personally; and has agreed to find the particular question he was struggling with so she can support him with this. I genuinely don’t understand what more you want? I hope for the sake of both the teacher and all the children in your child’s class that she isn’t having to deal with these kind of reactions to her perfectly reasonable and helpful response from all the other parents every day too…

Knickerbockerglory75 · 07/05/2026 09:55

arethereanyleftatall · 06/05/2026 23:15

Oh goodness, I’ve just seen @MyCottageGarden’s other stupid comment. I shouldn’t have bothered responding in good faith.

This is one of the problems with education in 2026. The parents spend more time fighting the teachers than supporting the kids' education!

sprigatito · 07/05/2026 09:52

I’m a primary teacher and I actually really dislike the practice of taking break time away from children for not completing work. Breaks are vital for children’s concentration and mental wellbeing, particularly for ND pupils. They are also essential for social-emotional development, which is as important as the academic curriculum in my view.

I would continue to advocate for your child if I were you. You are being perfectly polite about it and there isn’t some crucial taboo about challenging teachers’ practice, although MN can sometimes imply as much.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 07/05/2026 09:52

Anyone waiting for education, either state or very expensive private, to meet all their individual child's needs is going to be very very disappointed. PARENTS most often have to take the lead in ensuring their child is being catered for. And even then, it will never meet all needs. It's impossible. It's why one parent and one child sitting at the table at home, doing homework is so valuable. YOU know your child's needs better than anyone.

I had tutoring as a child and my tutor mainly worked with private ed students. She said it was ironic. Those parents were paying 3 times for education. In their taxes. Private school fees. Private tutoring fees. And STILL not every need was met.

Velumental · 07/05/2026 09:48

NoisyViewer · 06/05/2026 19:06

You are describing most 9 yo boys my son was and still is exactly the same. However, what 9yo doesn’t need to be told to do homework or to bring their reading books home. I would often send mine back in to retrieve forgotten items. They hated this so much as it meant they missed walking down the road with their mates.

as for missing the work assuming all the other 29 kids managed to finish it he must have not been doing what he was asked. He wouldn’t be the only child who has some neuro diverse traits. You can’t expect the teachers to treat him like he has something he hasn’t been diagnosed with especially when they can’t see it themselves. You think you’re being fobbed off but all I see is a witch hunt to get this teacher in trouble for doing her job. If she didn’t care then she wouldn’t spend 5 minutes of her own break trying to teach your son the importance of doing his work and she has had no thanks for it

The day my son's teacher cancelled their break time she still wne to the staffroom and left them to it. Literally told them she wasn't missing her break over them.

Velumental · 07/05/2026 09:44

Rocknrollstar · 07/05/2026 09:38

So agree. Not every child has ADHD. They have to learn to organise themselves and remember their stuff. DD in her fifties left brand new phone on the bus last night. She doesn’t have ADHD.

How sure are you?

Velumental · 07/05/2026 09:44

My son lost break time once for not completing work, I did complain. He's autistic and struggles to get started and stay on task but that wasn't really my problem with it, he really struggles with routine change and taking breaktime away. Which is what he relies on as a benchmark for timing out his day. Throws him off entirely and leads to so much upset at home he may not be able to sleep for ruminating. May have a violent meltdown. May schoolr excuse the next day which means it takes forever to get him back in the door. Thank God our school are supportive, the teacher agreed his table who were collectively kept in shouldn't have lost breaktime due to the impact that has and different strategies were put in place. It's so hard seeing your child struggle with something that seems like a non event, 5 minutes of a single breaktime? Sure that's nothing. But for some kids that routine is what's standing between them being able to attend or not.

Rocknrollstar · 07/05/2026 09:38

AImportantMermaid · 06/05/2026 09:12

Hopefully it will be a good lesson for him to get a move on in future. Sometimes kids don’t have ADHD. Sometimes they’re just 9. I’m 57 and left my handbag in the back of a taxi last night (wasn’t drinking). I don’t have ADHD. I just forget things now and again.

So agree. Not every child has ADHD. They have to learn to organise themselves and remember their stuff. DD in her fifties left brand new phone on the bus last night. She doesn’t have ADHD.

BlackCatThinking · 07/05/2026 08:48

NoisyViewer · 07/05/2026 05:11

He hasn’t been diagnosed and the teacher doesn’t see any neuro diverse traits. All the things the op listed that make her think he has is all thing typical of a 9yo boy. Instead of tackling this excuses has been made by the parents instead. The teacher will almost certainly tell the class to get their book bags and lunch bags before they sit down waiting for their names to be called so they can go home. My son was very much like this lad. Forgetting his things, losing them and daydreaming. So I would do reward charts and put in consequences. He lost his shoes just before his birthday. When receiving money of grandparents I told him he owed me £30 to replace them. He soon went in that school and found those shoes which he hadn’t been able to for the previous 3 days and he got his money back. He was more careful not to lose things after

Interventions for AdHD can be behavioural- some kids and adults never medicate and it is the first line response for many young children who are suspected adhd. Some parents may never have tried behavioural methods and that may be sufficient for their child’s needs. Equally there are still schools and teachers with poor SEN support. Nine is quite a critical age - you might expect
to be seeing the child develop out of some of the behaviours at this stage and if you are not, and there are a number of behaviours, if you choose to wait there is a real risk that that the education of your child will be severely impacted due to long waiting lists that @arethereanyleftatall mentions. @Miserablelittlesoul needs to ask for Senco input from the school now.

Lovetoplan · 07/05/2026 08:31

Pancakesandcream33 · 06/05/2026 18:46

My son is awaiting an assessment and his new school have made reasonable adjustments for him. His previous school failed to explain anything to him in a way he could understand and punished him daily, removing his breaks to do work and being very stern with him in class. It damaged him emotionally, he eventually refused to engage in any learning and he completely shut down. I removed him from school, homeschooled for 5 months and sent him somewhere new. He went back confident, advanced and able to implement methods I taught him to help with focus etc. Some schools cause more harm than good if the teachers aren't willing or encouraged to adapt their teaching style, even slightly, for different kids.

This is fantastic - bravo!

Mookie81 · 07/05/2026 08:04

There was a thread a short time ago about white working class boys and their lack of progress compared to other demographics. I'd be interested to know what demographic the OP fits into.
I'd also be interested to see a breakdown of the race/sex demographics of children who are deemed ADHD, school refusers, etc.

NoisyViewer · 07/05/2026 05:11

johnd2 · 06/05/2026 19:37

I think you are effectively arguing that reasonable adjustments are somehow unreasonable!

Reasonable adjustments means something that is reasonable for the teacher, class and situation, so having a teacher follow one child around would be almost certainly not a reasonable adjustment. And an adjustment that unreasonably impacts other children would definitely be a no go.

Ideally all children would be able to learn effectively without a 1:1, but for some, they really do need someone constantly prompting them. , I would have thought a reasonable adjustment here could even be as simple as having a cue card sticky back plasticed to his desk reminding him what to pack, or a rhyme to sing in his head, and maybe a reminder 5 minutes before the end of class for the transition. But that's what people involved need to work out.

He hasn’t been diagnosed and the teacher doesn’t see any neuro diverse traits. All the things the op listed that make her think he has is all thing typical of a 9yo boy. Instead of tackling this excuses has been made by the parents instead. The teacher will almost certainly tell the class to get their book bags and lunch bags before they sit down waiting for their names to be called so they can go home. My son was very much like this lad. Forgetting his things, losing them and daydreaming. So I would do reward charts and put in consequences. He lost his shoes just before his birthday. When receiving money of grandparents I told him he owed me £30 to replace them. He soon went in that school and found those shoes which he hadn’t been able to for the previous 3 days and he got his money back. He was more careful not to lose things after

BlackCatThinking · 06/05/2026 23:20

arethereanyleftatall · 06/05/2026 23:12

um. Mine is. It’s about 2 months to get an appointment with the initial doctors, then they refer you to paediatrician over one year wait, who does the first assessment, tthen they forward you on to step 2 which is 4 years. 6 years total and growing. It means that my dd won’t get hers as it wasn’t picked up till about 13 so she’ll be kicked off the list at 18.

Yes, it is perfectly feasible to wait that long. There is a delay to get an initial appointment to go through the forms and see the child. Then there’s a further delay to get medication due to supply issues. In my area, you can’t pass to the stage of being considered for medication if there are insufficient supplies. Year 10 pupils are prioritised. We were lucky and benefited from 2 cancellations we got at short notice and were able to attend. Hopefully your DD will have something similar happen for her so she won’t age out of the list and can benefit during key years of her education.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/05/2026 23:15

Oh goodness, I’ve just seen @MyCottageGarden’s other stupid comment. I shouldn’t have bothered responding in good faith.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/05/2026 23:12

MyCottageGarden · 06/05/2026 18:22

6 years!? Utter nonsense there are NO NHS waiting lists in the entire UK that are 6 years long! 😆

um. Mine is. It’s about 2 months to get an appointment with the initial doctors, then they refer you to paediatrician over one year wait, who does the first assessment, tthen they forward you on to step 2 which is 4 years. 6 years total and growing. It means that my dd won’t get hers as it wasn’t picked up till about 13 so she’ll be kicked off the list at 18.

BlackCatThinking · 06/05/2026 23:10

@Miserablelittlesoul sounds like this incident isn’t the issue, rather the issue is that you are concerned about adhd more broadly? How is the school at SEN generally? Could you ask the contact for a meeting if you are concerned? The sooner the better before secondary and as the waiting lists are long, and there are supply issues with medication adding to delays, it may take a couple of years.

I am not going to say previous posters are wrong as I know times changes and areas vary in policy but where I live the process is not through the GP, and it unwise to go private as the diagnosis won’t be recognised by school AND the GP’s won’t prescribe. In my area the route is via school
so You need to persist with school and contact the SEN support.

my child had a myriad of symptoms that were continuously mentioned year on year by school but when I queried whether they put my child outside normal parameters, I was fobbed off every time. A few things moved things on, one being the school being downgraded by Ofsted with one major factor being poor to non-existence SEN provision and the other being a supply teacher who stayed a term and said my child showed a range of behaviours she believed were indicative. Getting seen took 2 years plus a further wait for medication to become available, which took us into secondary school. The diagnosis and medication have been transformative. I was actually pretty relieved to make the move to secondary and get away from primary!

Cel77 · 06/05/2026 22:49

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:05

What is it then? Because I don’t remember loosing my break in year 4 for not getting work done in time.

It's actually pretty standard,OP.

BeFirmHedgehog · 06/05/2026 22:32

ChickenBananaBanana · 06/05/2026 20:50

This kid isn't even diagnosed or on a pathway 🙄

You do realise lots of children (and adults) are diagnosed after the age of 9?

OP - trust your instincts & speak to the SENCO about concerns you have.

Littleorangeonaplate · 06/05/2026 22:25

Only 5 minutes break time lost? He’s a lucky boy.

Wildefish · 06/05/2026 21:15

ChickenBananaBanana · 06/05/2026 20:50

This kid isn't even diagnosed or on a pathway 🙄

Doesn’t mean they don’t have it. The parent says she has it and suspects son has it. As someone who went through school with undiagnosed ADHD you do not want to draw attention to yourself taking longer to take something down from the whiteboard. You already feel like a failure.

ChickenBananaBanana · 06/05/2026 20:50

Wildefish · 06/05/2026 20:49

Clearly you don’t have ADHD. It’s not drivel to the kids or the parents.

This kid isn't even diagnosed or on a pathway 🙄

Yoonimum · 06/05/2026 20:49

Miserablelittlesoul · 06/05/2026 09:04

I have mentioned to his teacher before that I believe he has ADHD and she stated that she doesn’t believe so. But he forget his homework all the time, forgets to bring home reading books. I have to be on to him all the time.

I have told DS he needs to use his voice. I’m more worried about the fact she didn’t speak to him and ask why?

Get him formally assessed and (presumably) diagnosed so that his needs can be recognised. Lots of kids go under the radar and it affects their self esteem badly, making it hard for them to 'use their voice'. Even if you have to give up on a holiday to go private it's worth it if you have serious concerns. The longer you delay the longer these kids suffer at school. Trust me, I've been there.